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40degsouth

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Thanks for your reply SolarLogos,
It sounds like you've done an outstanding job with your Golden Tiger, 3 plus meters in a 50 litre pot, excellent.
I have done my research with this strain and l do know that they get big. I've never grown a %100 sativa and l know they prefer milder, mellow soils than indicas because they feed in a different way, so perhaps this spot will be more attuned to their needs next year when everything has settled down???
I should also have mentioned that the soil mix for each hole, 4 by 4 by 4 feet, contains six 70 litre bags of composted manures from different animals. I mix my soils to a depth of 450mm because this is basically where oxygen can penetrate and the soil web life exists. Perhaps as the water crystals dry out l may get a bit more oxygen deeper down into the soil.??
The seed meal contains a lot of nitrogen and is easily broken down into a usable form by all my workers in the soil. Some studies suggest it contains more nitrogen than chicken manure and brings %28 protein to the party as well!!
My soils are just a guess but after 20 plus years I'm just starting to get a bit of a handle on things thanks to Tom Hill, Butte, Nomad etc, etc!!
You are correct, l am %100 gorilla and %210 paranoid......we'll probably only %180 now, things are changing.
Over my time I've tried a miriad of different watering techniques but l can categorically state that big holes with plenty of water crystals are the best way I've found. I also put down a pack load of seaweed, this time of year, around each plant. This, along with the added nutritional benefits, has the effect of keeping the top of the soil moist as the seaweed breaks down. It seems to be able to draw moisture out of the atmosphere and translocate it into the soil; this is only an observation though.
I'm generally pretty good at finding underground water but after digging through a foot of topsoil and three plus feet of solid clay, I'd had enough. Maybe I'll go a bit deeper next year?
This is the first year I've watered for a very long time, two 25 litre drums every two weeks, at this stage.
Genetics play a major role in success for such spots and I've found kush based strains do extremely well with this approach. I'm hoping the GTs do just as well,particularly, when l compare and ponder on the canopy surface area, in regards to transpiration.
I'd like to finish off by sending a shout out to YukonKronic. I've travelled through your beautiful land and have a good friend who lives in and has a trap line, just north of Watson Lake (C L) next to Jade Mountain.
It's amazing that as big as the Yukon is the people all seem to know of each other. Perhaps it's the vast expanses between people or the harsh realities of existence that you guys face but your communities are strong and it's a place on this earth that people still care about each other.
The world gets smaller!!
Cheers, 40.
 

YukonKronic

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Wurd to ma man 40 and the Yukon connect! Yup we're really tight knit up here... when your ass might freeze without a neighbours help you make friends with the neighbors :biggrin:

Hope your guerrilla grow works out... sounds like lots of manures in your mix which is usually a good thing... lol reminds me of my first attempt growing herb as a kid tho!

I had A LOT of seeds so I tried to start a small plantation (seriously... 100 little plantlets out back of my parents place. When they found out they almost took me out back for the claim jumpers special. I was NOT a good twelve year old.). One plant made it past the great destruction of discovery by greater powers and I tenderly loved it until it became a grand little three foot bush growing from a 5 gallon pail of aged horseshit from our pasture and nothing else. That plant grew an inch or two a day in Yukons long sunshine hours and finally one fateful day I plucked some leaves to dry and smoke; having no knowledge yet of how to get buds I just wanted to try it.

GROSSS!!!! It was bitter acrid naaaaasty smoke. Too much poo. I puked when I tried to smoke it and subsequently killed the plant and tried to make hash oil with it. Ahhh the days of Yore... I hope your GTs turn out better than my guerrilla attempt did!
 

40degsouth

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Hey Yukon,
I recon you and l could sit and swap yore stories all night over a Molson or Bud!:laughing:
My first experience of growing was a complete failure 'cos my mates trampled my seedlings in my parents garden; I'm sure they would never have found them......what were we thinking??
I'm hoping the soil's ok, it's my biggest concern at this stage and the watering issue is tomorrow me's problem. :comfort:
I'm confident the spot they're in will alow them to finish but l obviously have no idea how big they'll get or how much support they'll need in flower???
I've seen some amazing photos of the GTs outdoors, on the net but very little information detailing the grows. Either way, I'm really excited and looking forward to the opportunity and challange of growing these.
Cheers, 40 :)
 

ion

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GT lovers......i am in the way to grow GT or destroyer, whatsay y'all?

my sativa experience has been purple haze thai stock from 2010/11, running two dissimilar phenos of zamalD at the present and malberry peshawar afghani

all three are stellar

im out of the pesh, low on Phthai and swimming in zamal......now i want something different. i havent paid dues yet and gleaned the threads for info on effect profiles, and i will, but tell me what you think of my dilemma.......

Golden Tiger vs. The Destroyer-

duration, general demeanor, flavors........what to choose?
 

YukonKronic

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GT lovers......i am in the way to grow GT or destroyer, whatsay y'all?

my sativa experience has been purple haze thai stock from 2010/11, running two dissimilar phenos of zamalD at the present and malberry peshawar afghani

all three are stellar

im out of the pesh, low on Phthai and swimming in zamal......now i want something different. i havent paid dues yet and gleaned the threads for info on effect profiles, and i will, but tell me what you think of my dilemma.......

Golden Tiger vs. The Destroyer-

duration, general demeanor, flavors........what to choose?

Can't speak to Destroyer as I haven't had the pleasure yet. With GT your looking at either Intense introspective staring at a wall to judge the Nature of its Atoms or Light as a feather soaring with energy and intensity while light drips in Golden drizzles around you.. as well as combinations of the two extremes.. music art play and socializing are all great as is ANYthing in Nature. Some phenotypes give world ending munchies as well as the Red Eye Jedi look right up to Yoda levels of Fukt up. This is one of two or three herbs that can reliably give me the grins or get me giggling.
Burnout is there but generally not bad unless you smoke lots or it's a Malawi (only some of em) dominant phenotype. Duration is usually no less than four hours and depending on dose you could be high all day from a session in the morning. My wife ate some BHO and was still high when she woke up next day. Tolerance can build with very heavy use but not much and there either is no ceiling to the high or you get so ripped you don't notice it.

Flavours and aromas are predominantly citric leaning towards mandarin but there are peppery, bready, creamy, slightly woody (exotic Jungle woods) and sour Terps available as well as some Carrot and floral notes.... even an early Malawi rotten garbage pheno. The fem GT has more Thai in it and more refined Mandarin Terpene profiles as well as slightly longer flowering times.

I have found GT to be very vigourous hardy and easily trained. It clones extremely well and is reasonably resistant to pests and disease. GT can be sensitive to fertilizers but many phenotypes feed quite well once established and growth cycles are easy to manipulate with type and strength of fertilizer.
It stretches. Usually a lot. There are very compact phenotypes but one should generally expect a plant to double in size during stretch and some can be three times or more in size by end of flower.

If I missed anything or any of my observations seem out of the Norm then hopefully Dubi or Tang or like... a million other guys more knowledgeable will chime in too.
 

YukonKronic

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Hey Yukon,
I recon you and l could sit and swap yore stories all night over a Molson or Bud!:laughing:
My first experience of growing was a complete failure 'cos my mates trampled my seedlings in my parents garden; I'm sure they would never have found them......what were we thinking??
I'm hoping the soil's ok, it's my biggest concern at this stage and the watering issue is tomorrow me's problem. :comfort:
I'm confident the spot they're in will alow them to finish but l obviously have no idea how big they'll get or how much support they'll need in flower???
I've seen some amazing photos of the GTs outdoors, on the net but very little information detailing the grows. Either way, I'm really excited and looking forward to the opportunity and challange of growing these.
Cheers, 40 :)

Lol mine got found when a crew of volunteers from a local music festival came and got the stacks of fencing I had hidden them behind.
Just over a hundred thriving seedlings about four inches tall all neatly laid out with a full water pail and some gardening supplies stacked neatly to the side. Must have been quite the sight to all those old hippies, draft dodgers and societal misfits that had migrated North in the seventies.
My parents were Pillars of that community and all 15 volunteers knew beyond a shadow of a doubt they would not have been complicit.
However being so tight knit a community the only people told were my parents who immediately made me end my "budding" cartel dream and swiftly disabused me of any notion of the grandeur of criminalism.

At that point I began to really learn about marijuana as more than a "drug" and began actually growing personally alongside the one plant that had been hidden elsewhere.... so in the end it was discipline from my parents that lead me to see cannabis as something... more.
Many years later I find I am a patient and cannabis, having helped me find spiritual and philosophical stability and direction is now helping me to understand my illness and how I can manage it and also how to again Respect marijuana in yet another way as not a recreational drug but a medicinal one.

My parents are still supporting me in my quest to personal betterment and have had their own lives and views changed by Cannabis as a result.
 

YukonKronic

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Quit petting her, or you'll rub all her fur off!

She's so sexy! I'm gonna rub SOMEthing off if she gets any prettier :peacock:

Lol 13 weeks is tomorrow.. I'll post pics so I can get opinions on Harvesting.... lots looks ready enough but there's still so much new pistils emergent that I'm thinking maybe 14 weeks or 14.5.... there's also a few more nanners popping so I should balance that into equation too. I don't feel like picking lellow bananas any more than seed.

FYI GT isn't over prone to hermaphroditism... I'm kinda sloppy with light and also stressed them a bit with some kind of nutrition problem around week 8
 

YukonKronic

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Damn I also have ZamxGuatemala ready to go in that box... they're exploding out of their solo cups.. getting iron deficiency I think.
:chin:

Maybe 14 weeks
 

Tangwena

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Lovely job brother if she was mine I'd be getting her ready to cob right now!
Those are crazy ripe to me your going to get high ha ha.
 

YukonKronic

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Lovely job brother if she was mine I'd be getting her ready to cob right now!
Those are crazy ripe to me your going to get high ha ha.

I know! It's soooo hard to keep waiting but I still see little/no Amber and new pistils coming from inside buds as well as at tips... a branch fell off and into my food dehydrator t'other day and it's goooood. Not a lot of flavour yet but still surprisingly smooth and with rich sativa funk.
Noticeably stronger than the "hedge" I wound up cutting at week 11(?...stoned. Don't recall exactly).

So resinous. I can't wait to post some good pics of finished product it looks like some of the modern frost hogs you see out there on magazine covers and shit.

I'm planning some kind of fermentation cure... prolly get hands on some corn on the cob this week if it's available if not then I think I've seen Tarot and/or banana leaves periodically at store too...
 

YukonKronic

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Disaster. Fuckn epic disaster. 6 hour power outage at -40 C. My garden Froze. I think I saved some of my genetics but I lost a great deal of value to me including some that were medically important to me :cry::cry:

GT was days from harvest but got frozen. I harvested and immediately trimmed and laid out on screen to dry. So far it looks okay. Smushed up a bit.. kind of dark green camo colour to it now. It also has some beautiful blue streaks I've never heard of in GT so that's cool. Yukon blue pheno; there you have it something new from tragedy. I hope I can reproduce it in healthy specimens but it could well have been a survival attempt to resist freezing. I'm not doing that again by choice.

I have to go and assess just what's left of my collection today. I'll post up some GT pics when I get a chance..There aren't a lot considering how Harvey came in but I'll definitely give you one of total dry yield (less about an OZ... I'm out of smoke) when it's done drying as well as try to find some scales to weigh it. Early tests from the microwave and food dehydrater are promising... busting up the bud it's easily as resinous as any LPs weed I've gotten.

Nuff said. Just figured some of you might have been wondering about my previously promised harvest pics... back laterz
 

Tangwena

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Bummer brother lets hope the buds still cure ok I dont think it would have too much negative effects but then I have never had plants that frozen before.
 

YukonKronic

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Harvest looks ok. Dehydrated sample is freakin awesome... pretty sure that GT plant and her clones are dead forever tho so I'll never get to know about the blue.... I think it's a maybe on about 70% of my collection surviving including my males. I had been collecting good ones to flower and evaluate for resin and terps in efforts to build a bit of a micro breeding program and am pleased to say most resisted total freezing with remarkable aplomb! The one that recovers fastest and fullest will be marked as "most hardy" and given extra consideration in the assessment process.

I'm popping my five GT standard seeds I had reserved and doing a selection/seed run so I can select something amaze balls from the seeds.. also have some dark horse and Karma gear coming to cross with so I'll have to (finally maybe probably) start a thread to document the breedings and smokings and gardenings.

I'll update in a week to let you know what cannabis plants I have that can withstand a few hours of -20 (in their cabinets)and a few minutes of - 38 on the way to the house to be rescued. Amazing plant... I hope.
 
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