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4maggio

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Yea back in the 00’s I usta do everything with tap water. In Philly it came out between 180-300 and in Cali it came in round 80 or so. The Philly water came in usually at 240. It worked great. The plants
Loved it but it smelled like it came from a fishtank. But now they use that chloramine. I think that’s what’s really fukkin me up here. Sometimes ya can just smell it. I’m gettin a filter tomorrow ta take care of most of that tomorrow.
Seems I got the wrong pheno on this Fat Bastard. I poped a sister bean a month ago that damped off but
Is still hangin in there. I’m hoping it won’t snap over before I can clone it. She’s at 685 ppm’s now so not really at full strength. But she’s lookin like she’s gonna fall over cause her stems pinched at the base. I don’t think she’ll grow outta it so soons I get a chance later I’m gonna see how close to snapping she is. If I have to Il clone her soons I get my filter. Hopefully tomorrow or day after
I'm guessing that you are in Philly w tap @ 240PPMs.. "She's at 685PPMs now" 685-240= 445PPMs of your nutrient solution: Yes? 685, that's for your cuts in the cloner? seems like a lot.
But if it works for you go with it and learn.
The problem I couldn't get 'educated' about was, what makes up the individual PPM elements that makes up that 240PPM tap water. Is it mostly calcium or, how much of whatever else? Cutting the tap water down with the RO seemed... In my itty-bitty brain... not knowing the mineral make up of the tap water, to eliminate that conundrum but I didn't continue with mixing RO w Tap. I'm to old to deviate from a process that has been successful for me for almost 20 years where straight RO is the way to go. In those 'mixing' years, there were 4 plants in bloom.. the cost of and the effort to obtain the RO led me to trying the mixing process.. yes it worked kinda but yield was down considerably.. why?? who knows.
 

SofaKingStupid

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Thanks for looking in on me 4maggio.
That 685 is the actual ppm’s of the Foxfarm 326
I use. It was actually 935 before taking the tap out. And I clone into just plain water. But like I said it’s usually around 250 or so. I been doin the distilled now too a bit. It’s a little expensive if ya wanna use a couple 5’s for moms and 4x5 gallons for cuts. That’s why I’m bout to try this filter. If it could get my ppm’s under 80 and take the chloramine out, I think Il be able to work with it. Sposed to be commin today.
So now I got the seedling up to bout730 ppm’s now. I think she’s ready to cut bet she don’t have enough lats. If I cut her now, there wouldn’t be much left of her. But if I try to let her veg some more, she just might snap and fall over. I hope the filter comes soon cause I gotta go to work soon. I don’t want it snapping while I’m at work.
Have you ever cloned anything so young? This girls only bout 6 weeks from seed?
 

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SofaKingStupid

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This new mom looks really good now. She’s all symmetrical and healthy. Her embolism has gotten allot better and I don’t think she’s in too much danger of fallin over. I fimed her on the 4th and she’s lookin real good with it. Now I just gotta wait till I can get 8 cuts off her.
I was really disappointed with what I got off the last mom. Even with the condition they were in when I flowered them out, they shoulda done better. Plus the new mom is so much nicer than the old one. The old one was asemetrical from seed. It’s had even fingers almost as much as odd. And she started the alternating nodes thing after only about 7 nodes. I asked a friend that was a bit familiar with the FB and he said it wasn’t nothin to worry bout but I just didn’t like it. And now I see such a big difference in the new mom. She was at 10 nodes and still growing lats symmetricaly when I fimmed her on the 4th and she’s likin it. Hopefully Il be able to get 8 nice cuts from her soon.
 

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SofaKingStupid

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And I have 8 cuts from the old mom just because. I really don’t want to put them in flower due to their poor performance. But I didn’t know if the new mom was gonna succumb to its embolism so I took cuts. So far 1 week without roots. I dumped some Olivia’s stuff in one bucket to see if I noticed a difference using it. I hope the new mom does well now because I want to put her cuts into flower, not the ones that did poorly for me. But anyhow, I just wanted to write down when I dumped Olivia’s root stuff into bucket 1.
 

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SofaKingStupid

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K so something goin rite. I got 7 outta 8 cuts rooted in 12 days. The other one will probably pop some root through the net pot by tomorrow. That’s much more like it. I’m thinking the new filter got lots of the chloramine out. I don’t know what elce it coulda been. I didn’t change anything elce up so it seems it was the filter. Oh yea, and I got my Dip n Grow. I couldn’t find it till now and I really like it. It was my favorite rooting hormone. And it really smells potent. So I guess between filtering my water with the new filter and using my Dip n Grow, I can get roots in a reasonable amount of time. 12!days ain’t too bad I guess.
So now I’m just waiting on my new mom to give me some cuts. I don’t want to put any of these in. They weren’t the pheno for sure. And I’m hoping the new mom is the keeper.
Here’s the old mom on the left, with the new mom in the corner, and the rooted cuts in a row next to them.
 

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SofaKingStupid

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All rite so here’s the room now. I got rid of the old mom and gave my new mom more room. There’s the old moms clones there with the new mom. I’m bout to toss all these clones out but it’s just so hard. Especially since it took so much just to get roots finally. But it looks like I can get roots in an acceptable amount of time now so I guess Il toss them and get some cuts off of the new mom now. Il clean my buckets up and wash my rocks and get new cuts. Damn. I hope the new mom is the one I need. I’m not sure if Il start rite now, or after my grandson goes home. So either in a minit or tomorrow before work.
I’m so fukkin tired. I hope this is the pheno I want. I find comfort in the fact that I love gardening. I just wish I didn’t have to do this 40 hour thing again.
 

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SofaKingStupid

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Damn i finally got to cut yesterday. I gotta remember -the 8th. I wanted to over my last weekend but I was sick so I finally got to it yesterday.
So now I got a new mom goin from seed. Supposedly Fat Bastard from Blumburn. The first bean just really disappointed me. I’m really hopin this will be the rite one. The first did a weird thing in flower where the calyx formed flat structure almost like cabbage leaves instead of rounded lobes. Il get a pic up when I get a chance. So here i am just hopin I get that 35% pheno that was bragged about by Blimburn. The one I just threw into the trash was probably about 14- 17% by my experience. So let’s see how they do this time.
I got one more bean from them after this. I guess il pop it if this one ain’t it. I just ain’t got it like I used to but between work and home I just can’t do multiple beans at once anymore. I know it sounds funny but I’m just tired. -So if I didn’t hit it with Blimburn after all this, I’m gonna look up what’s happening with some of the OG refuge breaders here on ic. I came here with them. If I just can’t find anything “modern” that does what it should, I’m just gonna go with some old school breaders genetics from IC. Preferably someone who immigrated here from the old OG. I don’t know why I didn’t just do it from the jump but I think that’s what I’m gonna do. I guess I just wanted to go with something incredible.(35% thc)
 

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aCBD

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Fingers crossed that you have more luck this time!

I can feel your disappointment.
Maybe you can pop and flower two at once, this way you can speed up the process a lot and have higher chances of success (mathematically).
The work required is almost the same. :)
Happy growing.
 

SofaKingStupid

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Thanks aCBD! Yea I know. It’s pretty lame but I just ain’t got it in me anymore. I know doin 2 beans is not much more trouble but I just couldn’t do it anymore. It’s a damn shame but anything I do, I do slow and easy now.
 

SofaKingStupid

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So today the clones ate. Theyr at 175 ppm’s FF326 by adding 15 ml of 326 to each bucket. And settin it to 6.2 ph. I just like waiting till I see roots growing out of every net pot before I give them any nutes. So today is 13 days from cut and they’re finally eating. Good thing too. Some of them looked hungry. Now Il hit them with 15 ml the 326 every 3 days or so till theyr at 75 ml per bucket. And I think Il be fimmin these. If i don’t get too impatient id like to fim them and let them recoup before i flower them. I just don’t know if i want to wait an additional 2 weeks to get my effect. Oh yea. And I also don’t wanna forget that I turned the lights on over the clones just now too.
 

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