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dansbuds

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hey dan ...when U post pics like that i don't even have to get high...the pics themselves get me high:respect:


jfc ... when U walk into your grow & see a room/crop of flowers like that do you think to yourself "all is just perfect in this world"?:biggrin:


Thanx Star , but no ..... i look to see how i can make it better .....
 

dansbuds

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& while i'm showing pics ..... Aspen , because of the nute build up in the coco ... please please for your sake , let them fade like this ! otherwise you'll be smoking chems . when the fans are completely dry & falling off you'll know for damn sure they've been feeding off themselves & not the build up in the coco .

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Aspenou812

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oh no way Dan the scissors dont come out till i get the thumbs up...... I've been waiting 4 years and 3 months...... actually I've been waiting for that day all my life..... Im not going to rush it now...... whats a week or two by comparison......
 

Aspenou812

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i'll see what i can find for ya .....

this is calyx swell ....

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Same buds before they start to swell .....

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Foxtailing is alot more prominant on the buds & is usually caused by High N content in the buds or Sativa dominance in the bud structure . a bud that foxtails will have fingers instead of being tight & hard , they'll be more airy & not fill in . on some strains you can get them on the tops & sides of the bud if you have alot of nitrogen later in flower . which is why with the V&B i say to give a half dose feed before the start of plain water feeds to reduce the N in the feeds & stop the foxtailing .

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those foxtails look like a hot mess..... Looks like the buds did some crazy vegging at some point..... now i got it..... Thanks Dan....

hehehehehe Dan took me back to school...... yay....:tiphat:
 
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back_woods

hot mess is correct. i see some leaf taco going on so looks to be heat related as well
 

dansbuds

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hot mess is correct. i see some leaf taco going on so looks to be heat related as well


on mine ? yes . but its low humidity not heat stress . i'm lucky if it gets above 25 to 30% this time of year . the fans are cupping trying to get as much moisture as possible .
 
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on mine ? yes . but its low humidity not heat stress . i'm lucky if it gets above 25 to 30% this time of year . the fans are cupping trying to get as much moisture as possible .

i was talking in general brother. in my grow the heat is always an issue and the humidity but they aren't looking for moisture lol more like looking for relief from it
 

watts

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Why are some growers buds just barely above the scrog net? Wouldn't you get more yield if you waited until the screen was full before flipping and end up with around 2ft. colas?
 
Have you used a microscope to check on the trichomes? what's going on with the trichomes? Nice run so far! Way better than my first run. lol

WAtts: that is the second screen i know it is a long thread to read through. but its just there to support the heavy tops from falling. she waited plenty long to flip.
 

dansbuds

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when vegging & flowering are done in 2 different rooms , a true scrog is impossible . the nets at this point are more for bud support & to be able to move the longer branches around to try & keep an even canopy .
i'd say 80% of the nets i see being used recently aren't for scrog .... they're for bud support more than anything . it beats the shit outa stakes & plant clips ! or even tomato cages .
 

dansbuds

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my lower buds were just swollen,
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but my tops had a bit of the heat foxin
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no they didn't , thats typical GG4 calyx swell . if you had foxtails , they'd be longer & the buds wouldn't be as dense . i've had it happen on gg4 & its a big difference than what you have there .
i don't usually take pics of my fuck ups but i'll look to see if i have some foxtailed gg4 pics .


heres one from a heat stressed run in the attic , but i've had them looking alot worse

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windycitysmoker

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when vegging & flowering are done in 2 different rooms , a true scrog is impossible . the nets at this point are more for bud support & to be able to move the longer branches around to try & keep an even canopy .
i'd say 80% of the nets i see being used recently aren't for scrog .... they're for bud support more than anything . it beats the shit outa stakes & plant clips ! or even tomato cages .

No shit I tried it and shit didn't work....dan how bad does super cropping in flower hurt the yield? Like after the stretch let's say the first 25 days of flower and yup gotta super crop
 

watts

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Have you used a microscope to check on the trichomes? what's going on with the trichomes? Nice run so far! Way better than my first run. lol

WAtts: that is the second screen i know it is a long thread to read through. but its just there to support the heavy tops from falling. she waited plenty long to flip.

Yes, I just meant in general, not her particular grow. Dan made a good point about how some use it as plant support. I figured it was that and/or height restrictions.
 

Aspenou812

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Ok now I have herd about enough of me not filling the scrog net for the last time....... This is a 4x4 scrog with 225 holes that are 3x3....... If you would take the time to read and look in my album and by all means please do so.... You will see a completely full screen... And 9 inches off the damn traditional scrog. My plants are trained to the net.... And that is a traditional way of doing a scrog... I want to see any one on icmag fill 225 holes in a scrog in a brand new system.......that I have never used...... With plants they have never flowered....in a room that has never seen a living organism .. On there very first flower run......with 6 plants.........

There is no newby bulshit in this garden.... It has been done to a plain.. by design.... Half of the tops are laying down on the first level of the scrog because I overlaced them training them to the net to aggressively and many of them are laced together.... Did I make a mistake yes..... It by no means has been the perfect grow I was hoping for... But I simply do not possess the skill to train every plant with 35.5 top cola branches ........ That's what it would take to fill this scrog with a stem in every hole...... I have posted around 300 Pictures of this grow.... I can't be more transparent than that....please go back in this thread and read it... It is a traditional scrog and I used that scrog to train just over 3 feet out of these plants...... I have height limitation.... As it is.... Looking back over my notes... A total of 46 holes on the first layer of the scrog do not have stems in them......... AND THIS IS MY VERY FIRST RUN.....PEACE:tiphat:
 

Aspenou812

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Why are some growers buds just barely above the scrog net? Wouldn't you get more yield if you waited until the screen was full before flipping and end up with around 2ft. colas?

Please read my last post.... The branches on the clone only gg4 simply would not hold up under the weight of a two foot cola without some serious support........
 

RB56

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Don't take the criticisms personally. Your grow was better than most I've seen and most of mine - let alone for a first attempt. The only tweaks you need to make are based on knowledge that can only come from actually doing it. You've gotten to a level where you should be evaluating suggestions in the context of your experience, not as absolutes coming from much more skilled growers. As an example, my bottom screen has 3 inch openings. If I pulled a bud through each, they'd be packed like sardines at harvest. My top screen has 4 inch openings for that reason.

Definitely no. Your grow does not make you look fat. ;)
 

watts

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I said I wasn't referring to your grow, it was just general discussion within your thread. I've never done a scrog and you actually motivated me to try my first scrog, which is currently vegging now. I wanted more clarification on filling the screen from some of the other skilled growers in your thread. I figured it was on topic since Dan and others had posted some pics. Pardon me.
 

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