GIRL's GOT SKILLS

[onavelzy]

Ok Ona here we go .... this will fix all your drainage requirements wants and needs... I have a 4x4 inside dimensions tray. it has a 3/4 inch hole i cut into it with a 3/4 inch DRAIN fitting in that hole.. the tray sits on a 2x4 base with plywood on top there is a space that's not covered in the base the condensate pump assembly is in there,It is one piece, the tray sits on top with the drain going down into one of the holes on the top of the pump... the base is slightly angles so all water flows to the drain fitting, when the pump base has water in it the pump kicks on by itself.... It drains through a 3/8 inch hose through the wall into a bucket that i need to go dump now before it gets too heavy......

http://www.homedepot.com/p/VCC-20ULS-115-Volt-Condensate-Removal-Pump-554200/204481228

Its a little giant

I bumped the timer on the feed pump and it came on for 30 minutes.... that pump will drain a full res in about 3 minutes, i know this from experience....... that pump at home depot will keep up with it....... a drop never hit the floor....... I did have to swap catch buckets quickly to catch it all though......

Ok I think I have it: your tray is set upon a plywood base that is sitting on 2x4 risers. One edge of your tray extends past the plywood base or there is a cutout in the base at one edge. Your tray has a hole at one end. The tray tilts toward that hole. A drain of some type is fitted into that hole that feeds directly down into the little black hole on the right side of the pump in your picture. (or were you referring to the slotted holes on the top of the pump?) The pump perceives the presence of water and pumps that water out that little black spigot looking thing on the left side of the picture. A 3/8" tube runs that water out of the area to a collection container for later disposal.

If that's correct:

Is the pump sitting in a tray of its own in case of overflow or failure?

the pump height is listed as a little over 5". if the plywood base is sitting on 2x4's, how do you get clearance for the pump under it?

do you have a filter out of the tray for coco debris etc? If so, is it set up on top of the tray drainhole or at pump entry point?

are condenser pumps capable of being flooded/submerged and still function?

what turns the pump off?

Don't stress on answering everything. You've got a busy grow on your hands and it's looking great. I just have a curious mind that is not naturally intuitive of mechanical systems. I'm gonna head over to YT and see what I can find. Thank you for your description.

Dan, thx. I thought you were a hands on manager of the drainage but there's been so many posts and threads I've gone through, I couldn't recall for sure

Ona

 

[Morcheeba*]

...Im sure someone has scrogged six different strains in a 4x4 and love doing it that way lmfao..... not this girl.... Anywho...

i do it b/c i need variety but i dont like doing it b/c not all plants feed or stretch the same and it becomes a pita.


VerdentGreen had a thread where he used a diy modular scrog. a scrog screen for each plant is prob the best way if ya need to move things around.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=166899


peace

 

[Aspenou812]

i do it b/c i need variety but i dont like doing it b/c not all plants feed or stretch the same and it becomes a pita.


VerdentGreen had a thread where he used a diy modular scrog. a scrog screen for each plant is prob the best way if ya need to move things around.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=166899


peace

Nice Cheeba
got some reading up to do...

 

[Aspenou812]

Ok I think I have it: your tray is set upon a plywood base that is sitting on 2x4 risers. One edge of your tray extends past the plywood base or there is a cutout in the base at one edge. Your tray has a hole at one end. The tray tilts toward that hole. A drain of some type is fitted into that hole that feeds directly down into the little black hole on the right side of the pump in your picture. (or were you referring to the slotted holes on the top of the pump? The pump perceives the presence of water and pumps that water out that little black spigot looking thing on the left side of the picture. A 3/8" tube runs that water out of the area to a collection container for later disposal.

If that's correct:

Is the pump sitting in a tray of its own in case of overflow or failure?

the pump height is listed as a little over 5". if the plywood base is sitting on 2x4's, how do you get clearance for the pump under it?

do you have a filter out of the tray for coco debris etc? If so, is it set up on top of the tray drainhole or at pump entry point?

are condenser pumps capable of being flooded/submerged and still function?

what turns the pump off?

Don't stress on answering everything. You've got a busy grow on your hands and it's looking great. I just have a curious mind that is not naturally intuitive of mechanical systems. I'm gonna head over to YT and see what I can find. Thank you for your description.

Dan, thx. I thought you were a hands on manager of the drainage but there's been so many posts and threads I've gone through, I couldn't recall for sure

Ona

"Is the pump sitting in a tray of its own in case of overflow or failure?"

no the pump is encased in a housing the bottom of that housing holds the pump, switch and basin there is an audible alarm next to the pump and a sensor that detects water

"the pump height is listed as a little over 5". if the plywood base is sitting on 2x4's, how do you get clearance for the pump under it?"

the base is 2x4 with 1 inch plywood on top so that's 4 inches total, the tray sits on top but has drainage grooves those grooves are1 1/4 inches deep, the pump sits beneath the tray between those molded in drainage channels providing me the clearance for the pump...

"do you have a filter out of the tray for coco debris etc? If so, is it set up on top of the tray drainhole or at pump entry point?"

Yes it's a standard hydroponic 3/4 inch drain fitting..... with filter screen..... and i clean it out every week

"are condenser pumps capable of being flooded/submerged and still function?"

NO not at all, i have little worries they have been in use for years in homes around the world..very dependable... they only pump what's inside there basin in the bottom of the pump housing.. like i said this pump will keep up with my feed pump I knew that going in.... as long as the condensate pump is plugged in I will not flood..... It has a switch in the basin in the base of the housing that turns the pump on and off. The only manual part is me having to dump the collection bucket about every 4 days.

No worries Ona we're here to help and answer questions......... Now that you have your hands in the green we can give you the advice and you can actually put it to use... Welcome back to my thread...

 

[Aspenou812]

i do it b/c i need variety but i dont like doing it b/c not all plants feed or stretch the same and it becomes a pita.


VerdentGreen had a thread where he used a diy modular scrog. a scrog screen for each plant is prob the best way if ya need to move things around.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=166899


peace

Cheeba that's got to be one hell of a job...... dialing in multiple plants all in the same system, that's a lot of work no doubts....

 

[dansbuds]

Ona , read up on how a condensate for central AC units work . then you'll have a better understanding of how it works in her set up . .

 

[Vanilla Phoenix]

I dial mutiple strains in my setup too and it gets crazy. I have charts I fill out daily to keep everything going smoothly. It's definitely organized chaos!! To top it all off, every plant is at a different age in flowering too.

As soon as I get my new perpetual setup filled up and running I'm gonna try to get around and start a thread so you guys can peak the chaos.

 

[onavelzy]

Ona , read up on how a condensate for central AC units work . then you'll have a better understanding of how it works in her set up . .

Will do. I think I have the basic concept down but I will def read up. The part that was the least clear for me is where and how the pump sits: on its own on the floor vs in its own safety tray vs whatever. I had been envisioning a separate tray that the main tray drained into. In my confused mind, I was picturing some kind of pump sitting in that undertray that had a float valve that raised when fluid went into the undertray, turning on the pump that then somehow vacuumed up all the dtw fluid. I knew that wasn't it but until you explained in detail how it actually works, that's what my non-engineer mind pictured.

Thx to you both.

Ona

couldn't rep either one of you again so I star repped the thread.

Take care

 

[dansbuds]

the condensate pump has its own built in rez & valves that turn on the second water is in the rez & turns off the second its gone . it really doesn't need to be in a catch tray unless the water coming in is faster than the pump can deal with & can overflow . not very likely going to happen in this scenario .

 

[Grizz]

An old perv lol..... those are the most fun kind to be around Dan!!

hey Dan

 

[bugman52]

Cheeba that's got to be one hell of a job...... dialing in multiple plants all in the same system, that's a lot of work no doubts....

I dial mutiple strains in my setup too and it gets crazy. I have charts I fill out daily to keep everything going smoothly. It's definitely organized chaos!! To top it all off, every plant is at a different age in flowering too.

As soon as I get my new perpetual setup filled up and running I'm gonna try to get around and start a thread so you guys can peak the chaos.

i run mutiple strains, an yea its a pain in the ass, but i like verity.

 

[DoubleTripleOG]

Man I work a couple long days and miss all kinds of shit, lol. Talking about multi variety 4x4 scrog's. In the space I have now, I used to run as many as 9 different varieties per 4x3.5. When I was at my old man's, I think I had over 20 in a 4x4, more than one time. Granted some varieties only had a plant or two, but it still counts.

Getting up that high in variety count, some obviously didn't do as well as they could. But for the most part things worked out ok. I had like over 50 different varieties, so after awhile of growing them, I found cultivars that grew like other ones. Those were the best runs. Shitty runs were always when I was running something new that I didn't know how it grew. Most common occurrence was new stuff not being able to handle the feed other "established in my system " plants could.

 

[Aspenou812]

Y'all my ocd would drive me crazy as hell doing that..... I want vierities but I have to be patent and wait....... I just couldn't see things going all crazy like that I would never sleep...... My hat's off to all y'all brave souls.........

 

[dansbuds]

I like variety too , thats why i keep so many moms around . but got real old trying to dial in different strains in the same tray . so now i mono crop & just run a different strain every time . & keep a jar or 2 from each run so when i smoke i just grab whatever jar i have a taste for that day

you guys doing multiple strains have to be hand feeding right ? thats one thing i can't do anymore . especially summers cuz i'm never here ! i spend more time at camp then home lol

 

[Aspenou812]

hey aspen, you were on point about the ec and glue.

I was running 1.3-1.5 for a couple days and boy they got fried,

dialed down to 1.1-1.2 and they look way better.

thanks for the tip.

Yea Waxy keep those and there crosses light.. Glad I could help..........

 

[Bobbo4200]

Variety is the spice of life. I keep my ppm's low so I don't go screwing one up but I always seem to overdo it on my Sour Hazy Jones.

 

[Vanilla Phoenix]

I like variety too , thats why i keep so many moms around . but got real old trying to dial in different strains in the same tray . so now i mono crop & just run a different strain every time . & keep a jar or 2 from each run so when i smoke i just grab whatever jar i have a taste for that day

you guys doing multiple strains have to be hand feeding right ? thats one thing i can't do anymore . especially summers cuz i'm never here ! i spend more time at camp then home lol

I'm hand feeding and it's a pain. Hopefully this water only soil mix I'm about to try out works and then I can have everything on straight water with Blumats. Sounds too good to be true really.

 

[dansbuds]

hey Dan

but ya know i luv ya brutha !!!

 

[Aspenou812]

Man I work a couple long days and miss all kinds of shit, lol. Talking about multi variety 4x4 scrog's. In the space I have now, I used to run as many as 9 different varieties per 4x3.5. When I was at my old man's, I think I had over 20 in a 4x4, more than one time. Granted some varieties only had a plant or two, but it still counts.

Getting up that high in variety count, some obviously didn't do as well as they could. But for the most part things worked out ok. I had like over 50 different varieties, so after awhile of growing them, I found cultivars that grew like other ones. Those were the best runs. Shitty runs were always when I was running something new that I didn't know how it grew. Most common occurrence was new stuff not being able to handle the feed other "established in my system " plants could.

DTOG we all know your a seed slinging fool..... But wow you're a Beast Brother........ wow....... BEAST........ Even if i had your level of experience i simply couldn't handle that shit!!!!!!! Props as always DTOG .........and my hats off to all you Multi Strain Masters......... I always thought monocropping was the most used style...... I gotta rethink that one......

 

[dansbuds]

Oh Aspen ...... here's a little tease for ya

56 days ......