Genetically Modified Crops Are Safe, Report Says

[GoatCheese]

In fact I would be willing to bet they come here for new trolling material.

Truth is they will probably run the MJ business Monsanto , Bayer and other pharma ,, i can see it now for medical patients that need marijuana for there relief picking up mj Pills at local drug store

Big pimpin' for sure
..but this guy is only a "visionary", not a marketing-troll, ay

 

[igrowone]

well, i finally caught up on all the posts, i knew this was going to be plenty of emotion on this
one thing i do see, consumers tend to form the anti-GMO side
the people that are the farmers not as much anti-GMO, but exceptions obviously

 

[GoatCheese]

We can argue all day but the truth is farmers benefit with GMO's and so do you with keeping costs lower at the food market

People like you are feeding us poison!


I see you don't wanna address the Seralini study? ..not the first person (troll) who's done that to me; You pretend to reply/ address the questions, thou in reality you actually try to avoid it, but you also do not admit being wrong about anything ...cunning.


Politicians behave the same way all over the world, don't they.


yuuuuum ...healthy ...tumors are really good for you, so eat Monsanots GMO-poison every day!!
Is this what your farm products cause, buddy?

Lot of text but you didn't even admit that your "less pesticides"-argument doesn't really work, and that was US MSM telling you that. ..want another one on the same topic from US MSM? GMO is saving money you claim, why other farmers say the opposite?


This article is even older, from 2010, and you claim you knew nothing of this? really? Never heard? BS.


Farmers Cope With Roundup-Resistant Weeds

By WILLIAM NEUMAN and ANDREW POLLACK
Published: May 3, 2010
"DYERSBURG, Tenn. — For 15 years, Eddie Anderson, a farmer, has been a strict adherent of no-till agriculture, an environmentally friendly technique that all but eliminates plowing to curb erosion and the harmful runoff of fertilizers and pesticides.

But not this year.

On a recent afternoon here, Mr. Anderson watched as tractors crisscrossed a rolling field — plowing and mixing herbicides into the soil to kill weeds where soybeans will soon be planted.

Just as the heavy use of antibiotics contributed to the rise of drug-resistant supergerms, American farmers’ near-ubiquitous use of the weedkiller Roundup has led to the rapid growth of tenacious new superweeds.

To fight them, Mr. Anderson and farmers throughout the East, Midwest and South are being forced to spray fields with more toxic herbicides, pull weeds by hand and return to more labor-intensive methods like regular plowing.

“We’re back to where we were 20 years ago,” said Mr. Anderson, who will plow about one-third of his 3,000 acres of soybean fields this spring, more than he has in years. “We’re trying to find out what works.”
Farm experts say that such efforts could lead to higher food prices, lower crop yields, rising farm costs and more pollution of land and water.

“It is the single largest threat to production agriculture that we have ever seen,” said Andrew Wargo III, the president of the Arkansas Association of Conservation Districts.

The first resistant species to pose a serious threat to agriculture was spotted in a Delaware soybean field in 2000. Since then, the problem has spread, with 10 resistant species in at least 22 states infesting millions of acres, predominantly soybeans, cotton and corn. .."


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/04/business/energy-environment/04weed.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Never heard, right..?

 

[krunchbubble]

People like you are feeding us poison!


I see you don't wanna address the Seralini study? ..not the first person (troll) who's done that to me; You pretend to reply/ address the questions, thou in reality you actually try to avoid it, but you also do not admit being wrong about anything ...cunning.

Your Saralini study....

Retracted! Apparently it was bullshit....

Seems like the Scientific community was pretty pissed

"Looking specifically at the tumors: The breed of rats used is subject to spontaneous tumor development. To identify a statistically reliable increase in tumors in a group of rats requires a large number of individuals. This re-publication is still deficient on this point.

These tumors were the most spectacular element of the media operation conducted by the authors. It should be noted that they showed photographs of three rats: a rat that used the GMO NK603, another that drank Roundup and a third absorbed both. Unlike the most basic scientific approach, no control rats (which didn’t eat GMO or drink herbicide) were shown. These control rats are still not shown in the re-publication."

"The original Séralini paper was rejected for many reasons. Perhaps the most important of these was that the design of the study and the described methods for data collection were fatally flawed in a number of ways. No amount of rewriting or excuses for faults can make the data whole again. When the data are faulty, the experiment must be repeated with proper design and methods."


http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/study-linking-genetically-modified-corn-to-cancer/

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-seralini-gmo-study-
retraction-and-response-to-critics/

https://www.geneticliteracyproject....eact-to-republished-seralini-maize-rat-study/

 

[Gry]

An interesting question when one looks at the volume.

 

[GoatCheese]

Curious what poisons am i feeding you lets see here from fluorides, chlorine being added into your recycled toilet drinking water that you drink every day is ok right ?? what about normal toxins in your household or the Air you breath ???
Or what about Alfalfa for our cover crops in no till gardening ??? and how is that working out ??? you better get it tested if there is any GMO in it
Whats funny is because its a perennial and pollinated by bees its inevitable that GM cross contamination will happen so much for your 100 percent organic garden ,, and what about the Amendments you add ???? bone meal ?? blood meal could it of came fro GMO fed live stock ??? or manures you got a lowes lol
what is even more ironic is you will fight to wits end against Monsanto your a hypocrite its ok to fight against Monsanto yet allow the US Government to bury nuclear waste in your back yard or go blind to that Go Figure 5 million tons worth a year yet you will blame Monsanto for everything who is the tool oh i mean troll now ????

You wanna talk about every other topic you can think of, exept the things i asked you!! ...just like i wrote down in my posts yeaterday, this is how trolls behave!




What do you thinbk about the findings of the Seralini study? ..is this the 3rd time i'm asking you this?




Study Linking GMOs and Tumors Vindicated Yet Again...MSM Stays Silent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxU9sgX7_-E


"If you follow the mainstream media, you’ll probably only know the Seralini 2012 rat feeding study as “that GMO cancer study that got retracted.” You probably won’t know that the paper has since been republished and Seralini himself has won two court victories defending his work. Join me for today’s Thought For The Day as I break down the GMO truth that Monsanto doesn’t want you to know."




Don't try to change the subject!!

 

[GoatCheese]

Your Saralini study....

Retracted! Apparently it was bullshit....

Blaaaaaah-blaaaaah. You're quite out of it.


But, you haven't even read the study, you've just read/heard what you're told about it, right?


And you seem to be living in the past:


Study Linking GMOs and Tumors Vindicated Yet Again...MSM Stays Silent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxU9sgX7_-E


"If you follow the mainstream media, you’ll probably only know the Seralini 2012 rat feeding study as “that GMO cancer study that got retracted.” You probably won’t know that the paper has since been republished and Seralini himself has won two court victories defending his work. Join me for today’s Thought For The Day as I break down the GMO truth that Monsanto doesn’t want you to know."





Why don't you read the study first before calling it bullshit, cause all you've done, right?, is that you've read from the internet that it's bunk, but it really isn't. Read it.

Does your mom still peel the potatoes for you? Grow up, try to come up with your own thought and ideas. Parrots are embarrasing.

 

[krunchbubble]

Blaaaaaah-blaaaaah. You're quite out of it.


But, you haven't even read the study, you've just read/heard what you're told about it, right?

Nope, didnt read it. I just come in here to rile people like you up....

I just like to raise your blood pressure a few beats so you die a bit faster, thats all...

ill be back in a few more pages to do it again....

 

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[corky1968]

GMO products should be labelled kind of the way organic products are labelled.
To give the consumer the final choice of what they wish to purchase. If you
want organic purchase that. If you don't mind GMO then you can buy that.

 

[mexcurandero420]

Misinformation in the US about the EU is that everything in the EU is labeled, but that isn't for a long time anymore.If i see on the package that it contains soy lecithin not from organic source, it is from GMO source.

Just like the FDA the EFSA is not independent

http://corporateeurope.org/efsa/2013/10/unhappy-meal-european-food-safety-authoritys-independence-problem

Keep on growing

 

[GoatCheese]

Nope, didnt read it. I just come in here to rile people like you up....

I just like to raise your blood pressure a few beats so you die a bit faster, thats all...

ill be back in a few more pages to do it again....

Please do. and every time you post a comment directed at me, i'm gonna post pictures of these rats

...and link here the study that has been validated By court cases Seralini et al won.

Republished study: long-term toxicity of a Roundup herbicide and a Roundup-tolerantgenetically modified maize
http://enveurope.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s12302-014-0014-5


Abstract

Background

The health effects of a Roundup-tolerant NK603 genetically modified (GM) maize(from 11% in the diet), cultivated with or without Roundup application and Roundupalone (from 0.1 ppb of the full pesticide containing glyphosate and adjuvants) indrinking water, were evaluated for 2 years in rats. This study constitutes afollow-up investigation of a 90-day feeding study conducted by Monsanto in orderto obtain commercial release of this GMO, employing the same rat strain andanalyzing biochemical parameters on the same number of animals per group as ourinvestigation. Our research represents the first chronic study on thesesubstances, in which all observations including tumors are reportedchronologically. Thus, it was not designed as a carcinogenicity study. We reportthe major findings with 34 organs observed and 56 parameters analyzed at 11 timepoints for most organs.

Results

Biochemical analyses confirmed very significant chronic kidney deficiencies, forall treatments and both sexes; 76% of the altered parameters were kidney-related.In treated males, liver congestions and necrosis were 2.5 to 5.5 times higher.Marked and severe nephropathies were also generally 1.3 to 2.3 times greater. Infemales, all treatment groups showed a two- to threefold increase in mortality,and deaths were earlier. This difference was also evident in three male groups fedwith GM maize. All results were hormone- and sex-dependent, and the pathologicalprofiles were comparable. Females developed large mammary tumors more frequentlyand before controls; the pituitary was the second most disabled organ; the sexhormonal balance was modified by consumption of GM maize and Roundup treatments.Males presented up to four times more large palpable tumors starting 600 daysearlier than in the control group, in which only one tumor was noted. Theseresults may be explained by not only the non-linear endocrine-disrupting effectsof Roundup but also by the overexpression of the EPSPS transgene or othermutational effects in the GM maize and their metabolic consequences.

Conclusion

Our findings imply that long-term (2 year) feeding trials need to be conducted tothoroughly evaluate the safety of GM foods and pesticides in their full commercialformulations.

Please bump and troll this post every week from now on so that no one will miss it, please


Are you gonna tell your mom, dad sister, brother or wife/girl friend, boyfriend/hubby it's safe for them to eat Monsantos GM-products even after that study?

 

[shithawk420]

Ha I heard about the "glued" meat in the UK.its not glued per say but its pieces of meat binded together and even professionals have a hard time telling the difference.and they didn't even have to label it

 

[GoatCheese]

GMO products should be labelled kind of the way organic products are labelled.
To give the consumer the final choice of what they wish to purchase. If you
want organic purchase that. If you don't mind GMO then you can buy that.

Yea, but before leaving the consumer with the final choise, they should openly talk about the health hazards, but they aren't = corruption

 

[corky1968]

Please do. and every time you post a comment directed at me, i'm gonna post pictures of these rats.

 

[GoatCheese]

heh-heh


I told you guys i've done this a few times already. Even with the same topic, GMO and the Seralini study, and that was few yars ago.
These trolls have no chances of getting around this.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Anyone that thinks the classical breeding that has gone on for centuries is the same as GMO breeding does not understand either.
You are welcome to eat all your food from GMO sources, it is your choice. Enjoy it! You do over look the problem with pesticide resistance being transmitted to weeds, and GMO genes in non-GMO versions of the same crops being produced nearby a GMO version, there are now pesticide resistant weeds in many areas all from GMO crops that spread the genes via pollination. GMO pollen drifts from GMO plants, this is well known.
-SamS

Awe your so wrong there its not just about the money. Although if you own the monopoly on corn well you may not own the universe but will be very powerful with farm land all over the world being turned into urban dwellings etc,, what is the projected population in 2020 ??? its about Yields crop returns in bad growing areas how much Desert does the earth have ??? imagine being able to grow a crop that will not only need as much water but can handle a variety of sudden temperatures swings ,,, Just like whats going on around the world today Yes presently EU regulates GMO's but here is a little wake up call next time you make your self a nice cheese sandwich in Europe just think the enzymes used to make the cheese is a GMO product interesting Huh do you eat cheese then you eat GMO

Genetic modification (GM) of crops, like any other new technology, should be viewed in the light of what has gone before. Mankind has been manipulating the genetics of crops for around 10,000 years. Wheat, the world's major crop, is a hybrid of different species. It probably arose from a rare natural occurrence but has subsequently been maintained artificially.

The modern (non-GM) wheat is unable to exist in the wild because it cannot disperse its seed. Furthermore, plant breeders have spliced in pieces of chromosomes from several other species. The crop has been spread from a small fertile crescent in the middle east to nearly every country in the world. Much experience has been gained in this evolution that is relevant to GM crops. The new GM technology allows genes to be added more precisely than before and their effects to be studied more carefully. However, because it also allows almost any source of genes to be used it is an extremely powerful technology that has to be treated with care and respect.

GM technology is the only technology to be regulated from its inception, before any mishaps had occurred. Researchers who developed the technology set up a series of voluntary regulations in 1974 which have generally become officially incorporated by governments throughout the world. GM crops have been extensively tested in hundreds of thousands of field tests. Foods from these crops have to pass much more rigorous regulations than from conventionally bred crops.

Over the last 12 years between 50-100 million euros have been spent by the EU on bio-safety research. GM technology is used widely in the production of foods (e.g. the majority of cheese in the UK and US is made with an enzyme that is the product of GM technology) and medicines (e.g. the production of human growth hormone by GM methods removed the major cause of CJD). GM crops have been grown on many millions of acres since 1966 in North and South America and Asia. There are no proven examples of GM products adding risks. In contrast, there are many examples of the technology reducing risks. GM technology is not safe - nothing is - but it has a very effective record.

Critics claim that GMOs may increase use of chemical pesticides and increase the profits of agribusiness. Pigs might fly. It is a matter of fact that GM crops have drastically cut the use of such pesticides. GM cotton, containing a built in insecticide, uses 50% less chemical insecticides. In 1998 around 1000 tonnes less insecticide was used in the US cotton belt than before the introduction of GM cotton. That insecticide was mainly sprayed from planes. Only a small percentage reached its target. The rest drifted into the wider environment killing susceptible insects, whether pests or not. GM cotton only kills those insects that feed on the crop.

Independent studies on commercially grown herbicide-tolerant GM crops in North America have shown up to 50% reduction in herbicide use by farmers. Economic analyses suggest these commercial crops have led to a transfer of value from the agrochemical industry around half of which has gone to the farmer. The overall value (chemicals plus seeds) retained in the multinational agricultural supply industry has therefore gone down.

With this record of proven environmental benefit in practice, I find it hard to explain why there is such fierce opposition to the technology. Why are Friends of the Earth and Greenpeace trying to block technology that is decreasing pesticide use? I appreciate that some people have an intrinsic dislike of such powerful manipulation of genetics.

I also think the introduction of the GM soya products into Europe will go down in the marketing text books as a classic example of how not to launch a product. This was a shame after Zeneca's excellent launch of the GM tomato paste. But GM technology is not the real target but rather the weapon to use against multinationals and global corporations. It is effective because it can be used to stir emotions - 'Frankenstein Foods' might be nonsense but it is an eye-catching, gut-wrenching headline.

 

[GoatCheese]

I just like to raise your blood pressure a few beats so you die a bit faster, thats all...

The rim of fire is quite active, Bay Area, CA








Tool & Bill Hicks - Aenima Remix - Arizona Bay, Bye Bye L.A.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWdMNbYQBeA


"Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay"

 

[corky1968]

Who wants a steak of this?

Monstrous GMO Bulls Now Reality

GMO Spider Chickens anyone? I'm not sure if these chickens exist. But I bet they run pretty fast if they do.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

There are many ways it happens naturally one being pathogens or transfered by insects

here is a nice read that was published in scientific journal



The debate over genetically modified organisms (GMOs) is heated. One of the arguments against them is that it is unnatural to mix genes from different species. However, research in Lund, Sweden, shows that genetic modification can take place naturally among wild plants.

"In our research group we have suspected this for some time, and now my colleague Pernilla Vallenback has used DNA analysis to show that this is indeed the case," says Professor Bengt O. Bengtsson at the Department of Biology at Lund University.

The research group on evolutionary genetics has discovered that a gene for the enzyme PGIC has been transferred into sheep's fescue (Festuca ovina) from a meadow grass, probably Poa palustris, a reproductively distinct species. The DNA analyses also show that only a small part of a chromosome was transferred. This is the first proven case of the horizontal transfer of a gene with known function from the nucleus of one higher plant to another.

"Unfortunately, we don't know exactly how the gene jump between the species occurred, which is not surprising as it took place perhaps 700,000 years ago. The most plausible explanation is that the gene was transmitted by a parasite or pathogen, such as a virus, perhaps with the help of a sap-sucking insect," says Professor Bengtsson.

If gene jumps can occur naturally between plants belonging to different species, does this mean that there is no longer any reason to oppose genetically modified crops? According to Bengt O. Bengtsson, the answer is far from simple. He notes that the new results are interesting and important, but they do not say much about what is right or wrong in society.

"Many fear genetically modified crops because they believe that they may lead to unwanted gene spread in nature. This argument does not impress me. I sympathise, however, with the unease over the increased use of patents and monopolising practices in plant breeding. That is why it is so important that free and commercially independent research on plant genetics can be carried out in universities," says Bengt O. Bengtsson.

The research has been published in the scientific journal PLoS ONE.

So you did find one maybe, but I said insects can do this, the question is do the changes then get transferred to every where on earth. Of course not that is why it took so long to find one example.
Modern GMO's are grown everywhere in the USA and the genes they have like pest bugs resistance are then spread to other plants and weeds. Quite a difference.
-SamS