Gender dysphoria and the trans movement.

[moose eater]

That right there is a very rare situation and i believe statutory offenders don't have to register that long

Dog the bounty hunter Shame on the 19 year old for not doing his research moose

How rare is it, Rob?

 

[moose eater]

It's far more common than you know/realize, and had he been 19, he'd have been legal. It was greater than 3 years spread, with her being under 19 and him slightly over 16, with slightly greater than the 3-year spread in age. That's our statute. Not an uncommon charge in many places.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Unlike this guy, in today's Fairbanks Daily News Miner, and I knew a former MP pig of an individual who previously did distantly similar gigs with his adult daughter who was strung out on opiates here decades ago; giving her pills if she agreed to his coercion to do various favors for him, though not sexual that I know of.

Man sentenced to 40 years for drugs misconduct​

• Haley Lehman
• 8 hrs ago
  
  A Fairbanks man was sentenced to 40 years flat Tuesday afternoon for giving drugs to a teenager.
  Darren Leonard Edwin, 40, was convicted by a Fairbanks jury of three counts of felony first-degree drugs misconduct, two counts of felony second-degree weapons misconduct for possessing a firearm in furtherance of a drug offense and two counts of felony third-degree weapons misconduct for a felony possessing a concealable firearm following a trial in June 2024.
  
  According to the state’s sentencing memorandum, law enforcement was investigating Edwin for dealing drugs in 2021 when they found that he has been providing heroin, methamphetamine and cocaine to a teenager. The girl told law enforcement that people would pay her in cash and drugs for sex and she would give the cash and drugs to Edwin. Investigators found two handguns at Seven Gables Inn in December 2021.
  
  Assistant District Attorney Lindsay Ingaldson asked the court for a “very lengthy sentence.”
  
  “He’s a dangerous drug dealer and frankly he’s a predator,” she said. “Our community needs to be protected from people like Mr. Edwin, especially vulnerable children.”
  
  Edwin has 36 prior convictions since he was 13-years-old, and Ingaldson said that Edwin did not use those as opportunities as a “wake up call” but refused opportunities for substance abuse treatment.
  She argued that isolation should be a priority in Edwin’s sentence. “He’s a huge risk to the public and his sentence needs to reflect that risk that he poses to prevent him from harming others.”
  
  Assistant Public Advocate Megan Commoli requested a sentence of 20 years with ten years suspended.
  
  “Mr. Edwin had it tough from the start,” she said. She said that Edwin made attempts to get into substance abuse treatment and is “not too old for treatment” at 40.
  
  “He seems motivated to not live this lifestyle anymore,” she said.
  
  Edwin told the court, “I’ve been sober, it feels good, started going to church, trying to change my life around. All I can do is better from here on out.”
  
  Edwin’s cousin, Krystal Workman, told the court that Edwin has dealt with trauma his entire life after witnessing his father, Melvin Edwin, murder his mother, Patti Hyslop, in front of him when he was 10-years-old in Tanana.
  
  “He’s not a bad person. He’s made some mistakes in his life, just like other people have,” she said. “The jail life is all that he has ever known.”
  
  Superior Court Judge Thomas Temple found aggravating factors that Edwin has three or more felony convictions, he was parole at the time of the offense and was a worst offender.
  
  He said that Edwin’s criminal history was “very egregious” and “very extreme.”
  
  He said that Edwin’s previous sentences did not rehabilitate him and he has “no real prospects for rehabilitation.”
  
  “He is simply the stereotypical person who has a revolving door at the jail,” Temple said. “He walks in when he’s caught breaking the law or trampling on the rights of others resulting in a criminal conviction. He walks out and immediately engages in crime to the detriment of the community.”
  
  Temple said that Edwin is a danger to the community and needs to be isolated to protect the public.
  
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  Note that there's a slight air of the officials being more upset about the dope, than the fact that he was using a minor in multiple roles in these offenses.
  

Not even comparable to someone who likes to fuck kids

 

[moose eater]

Not even comparable to someone who likes to fuck kids

Pimping children and some aspects of pedophilia go hand in hand.

I've known of mothers to pimp out their underage children.

In fact, if you look up this case:

https://www.anchoragepress.com/news/cover-story/article_c6858aa6-87e4-5ae1-8213-5cbd123b2eb8.html

There were mothers who sold their daughters to him in exchange for dope.

The previous owner and I believe founder of our pretty-much-Statewide Alaska Industrial Hardware.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

It's far more common than you know/realize, and had he been 19, he'd have been legal. It was greater than 3 years spread, with her being under 19 and him slightly over 16, with slightly greater than the 3-year spread in age. That's our statute. Not an uncommon charge in many places.

That’s what you consider pedophilia ?

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Pimping children and some aspects of pedophilia go hand in hand.

I've known of mothers to pimp out their underage children.

Now that is a very creative straw man argument. I told you I wasn’t as creative as you

 

[moose eater]

That’s what you consider pedophilia ?

It involves a parallel criminal act that involves underage girls being used for sex.

What do you call it?

 

[moose eater]

Now that is a very creative straw man argument. I told you I wasn’t as creative as you

Not a strawman at all. If you're facilitating children being sexually abused, it is a child sex crime. End of story.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

It involves a parallel criminal act that involves underage girls being used for sex.

What do you call it?

As smart as you come off, I’m guessing you already know the definition. It’s not even close to two teenagers almost committing statutory offenses

 

[moose eater]

As smart as you come off, I’m guessing you already know the definition. It’s not even close to two teenagers almost committing statutory offenses

I didn't say that those two cases were similar, though they all ended up on the same sex-offender registry in the end, though I'll wait to see if the 40-year-old dope dealer does.

I am pretty certain Harold Boehm did and should have.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Not a strawman at all. If you're facilitating children being sexually abused, it is a child sex crime. End of story.

I knew a former MP pig of an individual who previously did distantly similar gigs with his adult daughter who was strung out on opiates here decades ago; giving her pills if she agreed to his coercion to do various favors for him, though not sexual that I know of.

Like I said, straw man

 

[shiva82]

you all thought this was a man for instance

that is a man . that olympics was a joke . if it is a woman , where is she a pro boxer? what license does he hold ?

 

[shiva82]

in france for example ,brigette macron is a man , was married , he has 3 kids. he first started dating the 14 year emannuel macron when he was teaching him drama at school as his teacher . he was 40 years old and emmanuel was 14 . the french olympics mirrored this type of behaviour

 

[moose eater]

Like I said, straw man

Perhaps check your reading comprehension and accuracy.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Perhaps check your reading comprehension and accuracy.

Not a strawman at all. If you're facilitating children being sexually abused, it is a child sex crime. End of story.

I knew a former MP pig of an individual who previously did distantly similar gigs with his adult daughter who was strung out on opiates here decades ago; giving her pills if she agreed to his coercion to do various favors for him, though not sexual that I know of.

Like I said , very creative strawman .

 

[nepalnt21]

It’s clear who is down with sexualizing kids.

yes, ppl who (for example) want to remove sex ed feom schools, making it easier for predators to abuse kids.

groomers are those who knowingly and unnecessarily make it easier for predators

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Like the ones fighting to keep books in school libraries that talk about explicit sex acts ?
Or the grown men who fight so hard to keep it legal to give kids hormones and sex changes ?

 

[pop_rocks]

Perhaps check your reading comprehension and accuracy.

some excellent posts moose
but regardless of any facts you present (i especially liked how is was all seasoned up with your own first hand accounts as a professional), its not going to change a thing for some people posting
they just know whats best for us all

 

[moose eater]

some excellent posts moose
but regardless of any facts you present (i especially liked how is was all seasoned up with your own first hand accounts as a professional), its not going to change a thing for some people posting
they just know whats best for us all

I know. They have no idea how much they have become like their parents and Archie Bunker.

Sad, really.

And thanks.

But the truth in your comment acknowledges that we, as a species, at least for now, will keep on reinventing the social wheel... Spinning around like gerbils in one of those exercise wheels, and like the gerbils, thinking we're actually going someplace.

"Silly humans."

And every time I think back on Harold Boehm (who was not a client of mine or I would not have IDed him), I think about what it must have felt like to be a promising 13, 14, or 15 year-old young woman, maybe from a shitty situation already in all likelihood, knowing that your mother sold you to a prick like him for some blow or some crack.

Imagine carrying that question about your own self-worth and love/acceptance, potentially for a lifetime?

Pretty fucking sad. Really, tragically fucking sad.

And we walk past these people on the sidewalks or trails sometimes, with no idea what they've experienced.

 

[pop_rocks]

I know. They have no idea how much they have become like their parents and Archie Bunker.

Sad, really.

And thanks.

But the truth in your comment acknowledges that we, as a species, at least for now, will keep on reinventing the social wheel... Spinning around like gerbils in one of those exercise wheels, and like the gerbils, thinking we're actually going someplace.

"Silly humans."

And every time I think back on Harold Boehm (who was not a client of mine or I would not have IDed him), I think about what it must have felt like to be a promising 13, 14, or 15 year-old young woman, maybe from a shitty situation already in all likelihood, knowing that your mother sold you to a prick like him for some blow or some crack.

Imagine carrying that question about your own self-worth and love/acceptance, potentially for a lifetime?

Pretty fucking sad. Really, tragically fucking sad.

And we walk past these people on the sidewalks or trails sometimes, with no idea what they've experienced.

youre sitting in my chair

f'kn weirdos!

those stories are all rocks your rucksack brother and some times its f'd on so many levels what can you do?
you just do the best you can
some people like to beat their heads against a wall and insist square pegs fit into their round hole or how ever it works
kind of stupid