Gender dysphoria and the trans movement.

[pop_rocks]

I’ve seen many stories of young adults who transitioned early and regret the decision. Sadly it is too late for them.
Kids should not be using these drugs while the body is developing. Explain how it is safe for children to take hormone blockers ?

but all teh geh kids are all cool!
loookkkeeee @mean mr.mustard he is coming around!

 

[mean mr.mustard]

NO he finally came around and admited that gender and identity are way beyond his comprehension!
but everything turned out cool, because i wont hold hiz stupidz against him
/thats just what nice people do

That's actually pretty impressive.

I figured it would have been a loop of the same two angled questions and then some righteous shit about saving children.

Credit where credit is due.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Can you answer my question above?

What about them ? My position is treatment for minors which I have explained for weeks. If adults are happy, good for them

 

[eastcoastjoe]

NO he finally came around and admited that gender and identity are way beyond his comprehension!
but everything turned out cool, because i wont hold hiz stupidz against him
/thats just what nice people do

More like you can’t make it make sense because we both know that gender ideology is an illogical fallacy. But if you want to debate it, I’m free ?

 

[GenghisKush]

this thread, in a nutshell

 

[Porky82]

this thread, in a nutshell

Fuck I was going to put this one up!

 

[pop_rocks]

More like you can’t make it make sense because we both know that gender ideology is an illogical fallacy. But if you want to debate it, I’m free ?

really,? because gender is pretty easy; but as others have explained in this thread way above your head
ill pick identity
how do different genders express their identity?

 

[eastcoastjoe]

This kid gets it

 

[eastcoastjoe]

really,? because gender is pretty easy; but as others have explained in this thread way above your head
ill pick identity
how do different genders express their identity?

I was being sarcastic. Gender is easy. Male and female. Identity is man and woman. XY or XX.

 

[Porky82]

This kid gets it

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What is your opinion about women's abortion rights?

 

[eastcoastjoe]

really,? because gender is pretty easy; but as others have explained in this thread way above your head
ill pick identity
how do different genders express their identity?

People like yourself have a hard time getting people to grasp this redefinition because it’s illogical.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

What is your opinion about women's abortion rights?

You can ask me that in the abortion thread. No need to derail this thread

 

[GenghisKush]

I was being sarcastic. Gender is easy. Male and female. Identity is man and woman. XY or XX.

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that's truth, but it is not the whole truth.
there exist people who are not described by that two-category model.
sex is not simply binary. there are many people who exist, who have always existed, and who are not described by either XX or XY.

 

[Porky82]

You can ask me that in the abortion thread. No need to derail this thread

Where's that? Got a link?

 

[pop_rocks]

People like yourself have a hard time getting people to grasp this redefinition because it’s illogical.

You can ask me that in the abortion thread. No need to derail this thread

what?!? is there an abortion thread and im not invited!
a redefinition of what? genes or identity?
keep swimming! im here for you

 

[pop_rocks]

that's truth, but it is not the whole truth.
there exist people who are not described by that two-category model.
sex is not simply binary. there are many people who exist, who have always existed, and who are not described by either XX or XY.

WHOOOAAAA! man!
bro release the kraken

 

[GenghisKush]

Behold my kraken

A 46-year-old pregnant woman had visited [a] clinic at the Royal Melbourne Hospital in Australia to hear the results of an amniocentesis test to screen her baby's chromosomes for abnormalities. The baby was fine — but follow-up tests had revealed something astonishing about the mother. Her body was built of cells from two individuals, probably from twin embryos that had merged in her own mother's womb. And there was more. One set of cells carried two X chromosomes, the complement that typically makes a person female; the other had an X and a Y. Halfway through her fifth decade and pregnant with her third child, the woman learned for the first time that a large part of her body was chromosomally male.

Sex redefined - Nature

The idea of two sexes is simplistic. Biologists now think there is a wider spectrum than that.

www.nature.com

	Chromosomes	Gonads	Genitals	Other characteristics/ examples
Typical male	XY	Testes	Male internal and external genitals	Male secondary sexual characteristics
Subtle variations	XY	Testes	Male internal and external genitals	Subtle differences such as low sperm production. Some caused by variation in sex-development genes.
Moderate variations	XY	Testes	Male external genitals with anatomical variations such as urethral opening on underside of penis.	Affects 1 in 250–400 births.
46,XY DSD	XY	Testes	Often ambiguous	The hormonal disorder persistent Müllerian duct syndrome results in male external genitals and testes, but also a womb and Fallopian tubes.
Ovotesticular DSD	XX, XY or mix of both	Both ovarian and testicular tissue	Ambiguous	Rare reports of predominantly XY people conceiving and bearing a healthy child.
46,XX testicular DSD	XX	Small testes	Male external genitals	Usually caused by presence of male sex-determining gene SRY.
Moderate variations	XX	Ovaries	Female internal and external genitals	Variations in sex development such as premature shutdown of ovaries. Some caused by variation in sex-development genes.
Subtle variations	XX	Ovaries	Female internal and external genitals	Subtle differences such as excess male sex hormones or polycystic ovaries.
Typical female	XX	Ovaries	Female internal and external genitals	Female secondary sexual characteristics

A typical male has XY chromosomes, and a typical female has XX. But owing to genetic variation or chance events in development, some people do not fit neatly into either category. Some are classed as having differences or disorders of sex development (DSDs), in which their sex chromosomes do not match their sexual anatomy.

 

[pop_rocks]

Behold my kraken

Sex redefined - Nature

The idea of two sexes is simplistic. Biologists now think there is a wider spectrum than that.

www.nature.com

	Chromosomes	Gonads	Genitals	Other characteristics/ examples
Typical male	XY	Testes	Male internal and external genitals	Male secondary sexual characteristics
Subtle variations	XY	Testes	Male internal and external genitals	Subtle differences such as low sperm production. Some caused by variation in sex-development genes.
Moderate variations	XY	Testes	Male external genitals with anatomical variations such as urethral opening on underside of penis.	Affects 1 in 250–400 births.
46,XY DSD	XY	Testes	Often ambiguous	The hormonal disorder persistent Müllerian duct syndrome results in male external genitals and testes, but also a womb and Fallopian tubes.
Ovotesticular DSD	XX, XY or mix of both	Both ovarian and testicular tissue	Ambiguous	Rare reports of predominantly XY people conceiving and bearing a healthy child.
46,XX testicular DSD	XX	Small testes	Male external genitals	Usually caused by presence of male sex-determining gene SRY.
Moderate variations	XX	Ovaries	Female internal and external genitals	Variations in sex development such as premature shutdown of ovaries. Some caused by variation in sex-development genes.
Subtle variations	XX	Ovaries	Female internal and external genitals	Subtle differences such as excess male sex hormones or polycystic ovaries.
Typical female	XX	Ovaries	Female internal and external genitals	Female secondary sexual characteristics

A typical male has XY chromosomes, and a typical female has XX. But owing to genetic variation or chance events in development, some people do not fit neatly into either category. Some are classed as having differences or disorders of sex development (DSDs), in which their sex chromosomes do not match their sexual anatomy.

help me @eastcoastjoe

 

[eastcoastjoe]

that's truth, but it is not the whole truth.
there exist people who are not described by that two-category model.
sex is not simply binary. there are many people who exist, who have always existed, and who are not described by either XX or XY.

You mean intersex people ?

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Behold my kraken

Sex redefined - Nature

The idea of two sexes is simplistic. Biologists now think there is a wider spectrum than that.

www.nature.com

	Chromosomes	Gonads	Genitals	Other characteristics/ examples
Typical male	XY	Testes	Male internal and external genitals	Male secondary sexual characteristics
Subtle variations	XY	Testes	Male internal and external genitals	Subtle differences such as low sperm production. Some caused by variation in sex-development genes.
Moderate variations	XY	Testes	Male external genitals with anatomical variations such as urethral opening on underside of penis.	Affects 1 in 250–400 births.
46,XY DSD	XY	Testes	Often ambiguous	The hormonal disorder persistent Müllerian duct syndrome results in male external genitals and testes, but also a womb and Fallopian tubes.
Ovotesticular DSD	XX, XY or mix of both	Both ovarian and testicular tissue	Ambiguous	Rare reports of predominantly XY people conceiving and bearing a healthy child.
46,XX testicular DSD	XX	Small testes	Male external genitals	Usually caused by presence of male sex-determining gene SRY.
Moderate variations	XX	Ovaries	Female internal and external genitals	Variations in sex development such as premature shutdown of ovaries. Some caused by variation in sex-development genes.
Subtle variations	XX	Ovaries	Female internal and external genitals	Subtle differences such as excess male sex hormones or polycystic ovaries.
Typical female	XX	Ovaries	Female internal and external genitals	Female secondary sexual characteristics

A typical male has XY chromosomes, and a typical female has XX. But owing to genetic variation or chance events in development, some people do not fit neatly into either category. Some are classed as having differences or disorders of sex development (DSDs), in which their sex chromosomes do not match their sexual anatomy.

You have men, women and a small population with birth defects.