Gender dysphoria and the trans movement.

[moose eater]

Just kids allowed to express themselves at school. In my day boys who were a bit feminine got bashed daily. I often wonder what psychological damage came from daily ridicule and violence, and kids who were clearly gay not being able to own it.

My kids are grown up but when they attended school it was a lot more accepting and I'm all for things moving further in that direction.

People getting uptight about gender differences says more about their own hang ups and sexuality. Some parents are afraid of their kids sexuality because of the way it may reflect on them. Nothing to do with what might be psychologically best for their children. That's my take anyway.

Frosty sees a conspiracy in nearly anything that doesn't sit well with his/her rather narrow view of things.

Makes a person wonder, eh?

By the way, many folks aren't aware of the percentage of people who are born with crossed chromosomes and both the potential for male and female gendered features. Or that often times these folks don't encounter any real specific demonstration of these issues until adolescence.

I wonder what the folks who are critical of these issues without knowing much of anything about them, other than to ridicule them due to them not being normative in their narrow perspectives, think about that?

A radio talk show host for Public Radio out of Valdez, Alaska I once knew as a friend, on whose show I did a good number of legalization shows over a several year period, as well as shows relative to the State's incessant violations of the 1975 Ravin Decision, once humorously commented during a discussion pertaining to LGBTQ+ and the folks who see fit to prescribe their narrower, boundary-challenged version of normalcy for others, that as a younger heterosexual male, he'd typically been more concerned with where he was going to put his dick, as opposed to where another was putting theirs.

But then, he had a reasonable amount of common sense, personal boundaries, and humor most of the time.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

God made you alive with Christ.

So my dad and his dad are both some separate, (or is it the same) ghost rapist?

This stuff gets deeper the more you dig....

 

[Frosty Nuggets]

The issue with the schools is the teachers talking the kids into being trans gender, the kids aren't making the decision themselves they are being tricked into it which they will regret later in life.

 

[moose eater]

The issue with the schools is the teachers talking the kids into being trans gender, the kids aren't making the decision themselves they are being tricked into it which they will regret later in life.

Horse shit.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

The issue with the schools is the teachers talking the kids into being trans gender, the kids aren't making the decision themselves they are being tricked into it which they will regret later in life.

Do you actually believe this??

 

[Frosty Nuggets]

Did you listen to the report in the video?

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Are you under the impression that asking another question is superior to an answer?

 

[Frosty Nuggets]

Are you under the impression that asking another question is superior to an answer?

Hypocrit.

 

[entropical]

The issue with the schools is the teachers talking the kids into being trans gender, the kids aren't making the decision themselves they are being tricked into it which they will regret later in life.

Exactly. I have a friend who is a teacher that told me how he was the only person in hos workplace who told a kid to not go through with the genital mutilations while others supported it, and the few who did not cowered to speak out. My friend lost his job because of it and later met the kid who thanked him for speaking out.

Saved him from a life of misery ending in suicide basically.

 

[Chi13]

The issue with the schools is the teachers talking the kids into being trans gender, the kids aren't making the decision themselves they are being tricked into it which they will regret later in life.

Read the policy in full. It is nothing of the sort. It's about inclusion, reduction of bullying and discrimination. No where does it in any way promote or trick children into being transgender. No idea how anyone could get that impression.

LGBTIQA+ Student Support: Policy | education.vic.gov.au

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www2.education.vic.gov.au

 

[unclefishstick]

easy to understand....13 years of codswallop will do it...throw in many hours of watching tranny porn "for research purposes" and a dash of waaaaay too much free time spent watching random fucknuts with webcams and viola!

 

[moose eater]

Read the policy in full. It is nothing of the sort. It's about inclusion, reduction of bullying and discrimination. No where does it in any way promote or trick children into being transgender. No idea how anyone could get that impression.

LGBTIQA+ Student Support: Policy | education.vic.gov.au

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www2.education.vic.gov.au

I didn't want to address that earlier, Chi. Was already in a shitty mood anyway, more or less. Maybe more.

Apparently, there's a number of folks here who can't differentiate between a teacher giving a student a well-wishing of "Good luck to you" before a surgery, versus, "Hey, I think you'd be better off as a transgendered person." Seeing those 2 statements as the same leaves one wondering how much the person spent learning language and definitions. Let alone situational interpretations.

Or the converse, the boundary-violating 'heroic' teacher, who interjects their own beliefs and instruction into a student's course in life, telling them, "You shouldn't ought to do that." Then wondering why they were called out on said boundary violations.

Again, apparently there's folks here who fail to see the differences.

The most richly odd part is in attributing the suicide rates among transgendered folks solely to the transition therapies and medical treatments, as opposed to... I don't know... the ostracizing and torment applied socially where such folks are concerned... Bullied and ridiculed to death, as it were.

Apparently, talking to a group of students in sex education or health class about gender identities and safety in sexual expression, etc., is the same as trying to convert them to be transgendered beings, whereas they never were prone before. (eye-fucking-roll)

The unbridled fogging of thought processes and sheer fear-based bullshit is of Olympic caliber.

Blind biases so thick and engrained that a person can walk on them.

 

[moose eater]

Learn something for Christ's sake; especially those who are both ignorant or naive AND frightened.

Research Guides: Gender and the Law: Intersexuality

Research Guides: Gender and the Law: Intersexuality

libguides.law.ucdavis.edu

The Body, The Self

The care of people with intersex traits evolves as clinicians and researchers learn more—and listen more

magazine.hms.harvard.edu

https://www.apa.org/topics/lgbtq/intersex.pdf

Male or Female? Brains are Intersex - PMC

The underlying assumption in popular and scientific publications on sex differences in the brain is that human brains can take one of two forms “male” or “female,” and that the differences between these two forms underlie differences between men and ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Gender-affirming hormone therapy induces specific DNA methylation changes in blood - Clinical Epigenetics

Background DNA methylation is an epigenetic mark that is influenced by underlying genetic profile, environment, and ageing. In addition to X-linked DNA methylation, sex-specific methylation patterns are widespread across autosomal chromosomes and can be present from birth or arise over time. In...

clinicalepigeneticsjournal.biomedcentral.com

How common is intersex? a response to Anne Fausto-Sterling - PubMed

Anne Fausto-Sterling s suggestion that the prevalence of intersex might be as high as 1.7% has attracted wide attention in both the scholarly press and the popular media. Many reviewers are not aware that this figure includes conditions which most clinicians do not recognize as intersex, such as...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

What is Intersex? | Definition of Intersexual

The intersex definition is a person is born with a combination of male and female biological traits. There are several different intersex conditions.

www.plannedparenthood.org

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/key-issues-facing-people-intersex-traits/

Its Intersex Awareness Day - here are 5 myths we need to shatter

There is a huge amount of misinformation about intersex people - let's shatter the myths!

www.amnesty.org

Intersex: What Is Intersex, Gender Identity, Intersex Surgery

Being intersex means having anatomy that doesn’t fit into a male/female sex binary. Most intersex people are healthy and surgery isn’t necessary.

my.clevelandclinic.org

 

[audiohi]

 

[GenghisKush]

For real. Frosty, your entire argument depends entirely on ignoring and/or legislating away the existence of at least 2% of all human beings, if we consider together the separate and distinct groups Trans and Intersex people; for the sake of this discussion we ought to.

Seems pretty tyrannical to me, dog.

 

[Chi13]

It needs to be pointed out that gender transition at school refers only to gender, not sex.
Under Australian law gender reassignment surgery is generally illegal under age 18.

 

[moose eater]

It needs to be pointed out that gender transition at school refers only to gender, not sex.
Under Australian law gender reassignment surgery is illegal under age 18.

One of the sites I didn't post links to in the limited query (can I safely write 'query' here?) re. 'intersexuality' among per capita population, was sourced in Oz.

It seems that folks of that genetic predisposition have at least as tough of an uphill battle in Oz as they do in the US.

Sometimes I just want to know who cloned Archie Bunker, so they can be fined so heavily they don't dare doing it anymore.

 

[armedoldhippy]

Sometimes I just want to know who cloned Archie Bunker

those idiots are proud to be dead ends... "and i say, segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!" bonus points if you know who said that without using Google.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Hypocrit.

You have shown an affinity for calling others stupid.

If you missed what I did there, perhaps you missed a few other things... I know you bought some seriously horseshit etymology and I assume you're probably buying quite a bit of bullshit as well.

But you, like entropical, seem to think that a discussion is a fight and any answers given in truth feel like concession.

Answers are impossible to give if you don't have them, I figure that this is a case of you just don't want to answer honestly.

I'm going to let you in on a well known secret... it's not very subtle... you still don't want to answer the question.

I don't think about not answering questions or focus on being deliberately dysfunctional.

I don't think that it hurts to answer honestly. I watched some of the video. I also have pointed out that you are at least subconsciously aware that you believe bullshit.

That's what gives me hope.

Answer, don't answer, answer in questions, walk on water, knock yourself out.

 

[GenghisKush]

those idiots are proud to be dead ends... "and i say, segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!" bonus points if you know who said that without using Google.

was it the guy who wrote The Outlaw Josey Wales?