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Gender dysphoria and the trans movement.

moose eater

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those idiots are proud to be dead ends... "and i say, segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!" bonus points if you know who said that without using Google.
Didn't look into Google on this one, but Malcolm X was a proud separatist, not supremacist, and he said so for reasons that, in that perspective or angle of view, as a member of a race that had been horribly abused, made perfect sense. Entirely different perspective and reasoning than the Aryan separatists.

By the way, an old Black man, standing outside a brick-sided bank in the ghetto in Grand Rapids Michigan on South Division St., in 1976 or 1977, waiting for the bank to open so I could cash a check and head back north by thumb when I was a hitchhiker and working the off-grid farm up north of Big Bay. The old gent had ridden the rails during the Great Depression as a Black hobo (there was a group no one cared too much if they were murdered, lynched, etc), and we stood there at bright morning sunrise, talking about being on 'the road.' An old Black hobo and a younger would-be Jack Kerouac type.

He shared a Malcolm X quote with me that's stayed fresh in my mind for close to 50 years. Bearing in mind that among the northern states, Michigan was a bastion of Ku Klux Klan membership in those times, and likely still is.

Malcolm X is reported to have said, "In the South, they hate us as a race and love us as individuals. In the North, they love us as a race and hate us as individuals." That stuck with me because I found truth in it. Especially back then, but again, still today there's resonance in that quote.
 

entropical

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Read the policy in full. It is nothing of the sort. It's about inclusion, reduction of bullying and discrimination. No where does it in any way promote or trick children into being transgender. No idea how anyone could get that impression.
There is no such thing as a transgender. It is a social construct designated to people who engage in certain genital mutilations.

Any policy of bringing the abomination to inclusion among school children prove the point of criticism. Children need protection from such propaganda and policies that are deceptively marketed to protect children from bullying etc. It is Munchausen by proxy and form of horrific child abuse. Abolition is needed, not inclusion.

 

buzzmobile

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You have shown an affinity for calling others stupid.

If you missed what I did there, perhaps you missed a few other things... I know you bought some seriously horseshit etymology and I assume you're probably buying quite a bit of bullshit as well.

But you, like entropical, seem to think that a discussion is a fight and any answers given in truth feel like concession.

Answers are impossible to give if you don't have them, I figure that this is a case of you just don't want to answer honestly.

I'm going to let you in on a well known secret... it's not very subtle... you still don't want to answer the question.

I don't think about not answering questions or focus on being deliberately dysfunctional.

I don't think that it hurts to answer honestly. I watched some of the video. I also have pointed out that you are at least subconsciously aware that you believe bullshit.

That's what gives me hope.

Answer, don't answer, answer in questions, walk on water, knock yourself out.
 

GenghisKush

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There is no such thing as a transgender. It is a social construct designated to people who engage in certain genital mutilations.
When you talk like this, you ruin your credibility. Elsewhere you argue, ad nauseam, that the purpose of the Russian "Special Military Operation" (ie War) in Ukraine is to denazify the country. And yet here you are, again, parroting thinly-veiled Nazi propaganda. Once again I say to you: learn your history.

Then again, the Nazi origin of the propaganda you're repeating isn't news to you, is it?

The parallels and contrasts to history are interesting and many can be noted in this documentary about the Weimar Republic. Today the United States with its vassals have this Weimar character to such extent that the whole empire appears to be modelled on it.

 
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entropical

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When you talk like this, you ruin your credibility. Elsewhere you argue, ad nauseam, that the purpose of the Russian "Special Military Operation" (ie War) in Ukraine is to denazify the country. And yet here you are, again, parroting thinly-veiled Nazi propaganda. Once again I say to you: learn your history.

The Nazi origin of the propaganda you're repeating isn't news to you, is it?
Truth is not N-word propaganda lol, but everything that come from the mouth of the Empire of Lies (US) is. If you want to discuss the russian SMO then there is a thread for it as you yourself noted.

Edit: And I don’t really care about your opinion on my credibility, or lack thereof. Fact is there is male, there is female and then you have a religious belief that spread a mythos that some have been born in the wrong body coupled to the idea that this can be corrected via genital mutilation. Pure N-word, Mengele stuff.
 
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GenghisKush

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Truth is not ”Nazi propaganda” lol, everything that come from the mouth of the Empire of Lies (US) is. If you want to discuss the russian SMO then there is a thread for it as you yourself noted.

Truth stands up to scrutiny and the examination of evidence. Your claim that expressing gender which differs from sex is somehow a Jewish conspiracy does not stand up to scrutiny. People have been doing this since before Jews ever existed.

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Frosty Nuggets

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Can a man mutilating himself to TRY and become a woman have a period, give birth or lactate? If no NOT a woman and should stay out of women's change rooms.
 

entropical

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Truth stands up to scrutiny and the examination of evidence. Your claim that expressing gender which differs from sex is somehow a Jewish conspiracy does not stand up to scrutiny. People have been doing this since before Jews ever existed.



So, you are saying that this guy has something to do with the transgenderism that you push? How does that work exactly?

To me it is looking more like an anti-jewish conspiracy than anything, but I am sure you have all the answers to why it isn’t.
 

Frosty Nuggets

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You know who else cannot have a period, give birth, or lactate? Your mom.
And I am certain she would avail herself of the women's change room without any controversy.
My mum is 75, she has been past all that for 25 years, insult fail.
When you throw insults you have LOST the debate.

What's next, are we going to recognise psychopaths 'right' to harm people? They are a minority that is growing.
 

entropical

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No, I am not saying that. No, I am not pushing transgenderism.

I am advocating that we choose to recognise the universality of human rights and human dignity.
Genital mutilation is not a human right it is an abomination. You would defend the practise of some jews to apply oral suction on a baby penis after mutilating it as a ”human right”? Call me anti-semitic if you want, but I am with the baby boys on that one.

What dignity is there in genital mutilation? None at all.
 

Microbeman

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I agree that the gender and sexual literature being used in schools and ensuing discussions are not intended to persuade children to go the route of transgender or any particular choice of sexuality.

I am at the same time aware that, in the school environment, students are seeking acceptance. If it is mentioned during discussion, that an individual may be considered brave or special for making a particular choice and stand, it is possible this could, in a child's/adolescent's mind, provide the key for gaining the acceptance they seek. Over a period they may convince themselves and parents, etc. that 'yes indeed' this is what they were born to be.

This is not to undermine individuals who truly are born in whatever form, physical or neurological they are. I think this issue is more a factor of our judgmental society, especially exaggerated in the school system, where one is under pressure to become accepted through conformity, than it is a matter of curriculum.

Certainly, parents setting curriculum is far from an adequate solution, since there are so many who are poorly educated and immersed in religious dogma. It is a pity that the technology of communication through the internet has degraded into a commercial enterprise, rather than educational, otherwise there might be a more ideal avenue for young minds to learn to learn, without the societal crap.
 

GenghisKush

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You know who else cannot have a period, give birth, or lactate? Your mom.
And I am certain she would avail herself of the women's change room without any controversy.
My mum is 75, she has been past all that for 25 years, insult fail.
When you throw insults you have LOST the debate.
Statements of fact are mistaken as insults by those who believe absurdities. I think it's a form of cognitive dissonance.
 

GenghisKush

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Genital mutilation is not a human right it is an abomination. You would defend the practise of some jews to apply oral suction on a baby penis after mutilating it as a ”human right”? Call me anti-semitic if you want, but I am with the baby boys on that one.

What dignity is there in genital mutilation? None at all.
I never said any of those things, though I would be amenable to discussing them in good faith, though I don't much think you've been producing good faith arguments here today. I suppose it is progress that you've chosen to acknowledge your antisemitism. The first step to recovery is to admit you have a problem. You have friends here who can help you.
 

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