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Gender dysphoria and the trans movement.

mean mr.mustard

I Pass Satellites
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If gender is a personal identity that a person chooses for themself, why would a child need to change their sexual organs in order to transition? Make that make sense

As it's a personal decision, I think you would have to ask the person.

You think that you have to understand and agree with specific liberties to allow them to exist.

You don't.
 

eastcoastjoe

Well-known member
As it's a personal decision, I think you would have to ask the person.

You think that you have to understand and agree with specific liberties to allow them to exist.

You don't.

I reject the idea that a man can be a woman because he feels like it. I personally don’t care what he does, I just care about the message we are sending our children. You seem to be missing that
 

eastcoastjoe

Well-known member
You still can’t make sense of that very simple question. I’m not asking anyone else, I’m asking you.
If gender is a concept / idea, why do you need to remove your sex organs.

Say it again with me. If gender and sex are different, and gender is an idea, why are we letting kids remove sex organs to affirm their identity ?
 

eastcoastjoe

Well-known member
What ideal is being pushed on anyone?

The idea that gender and sex are different. I told you what I thought and it’s not my opinion, it’s biology.
Biological men aren’t women. They can’t menstruate. They have a prostate and male sex organs. It’s a man.
This ideal is now being pushed in public schools. It’s in children’s cartoons. It’s crazy I even have to tell you this. It’s being pushed on society and I reject it. Many of us do
 

pop_rocks

In my empire of dirt
Premium user
420club
right! a child up to a certain point has no real concept of gender, but some kids mature at different rates
but lets just say as adults (17-18) would you be opposed to peple getting this surgery
and why does the state need to pay?
get your hands out of my pocket!
f.n fags!
 

mean mr.mustard

I Pass Satellites
Veteran
You still can’t make sense of that very simple question.

It's you who can’t make sense of the answers that you have been given.

I’m not asking anyone else, I’m asking you.
If gender is a concept / idea, why do you need to remove your sex organs.

I don't.

Say it again with me. If gender and sex are different, and gender is an idea, why are we letting kids remove sex organs to affirm their identity ?

Because they want to.

They're getting their body altered in a way that they prefer.

Why doesn't matter to anyone else.

Well, it shouldn't anyway.
 

eastcoastjoe

Well-known member
right! a child up to a certain point has no real concept of gender, but some kids mature at different raytes
but lets just say as adults (17-18) would you be opposed to peple getting this surgery
and why does the stae need to pay?
ge your hands out of my pocket!
f.n fags!

In my opinion, when you are an adult, do as you wish. When you’re a minor, you don’t have the mental capacity to make this life decisions
 

mean mr.mustard

I Pass Satellites
Veteran
I'm certainly not advocating for children to get surgery, but if their parents listen and agree, then that is their decision.

I seriously doubt that you accept gay or trans adults.
 

eastcoastjoe

Well-known member
I don’t need to accept anything that I don’t like. I have a choice to create boundaries for whatever I choose. I have that right as a human being. Let them do as they wish, I don’t care.
As far as kids, no bueno. There are millions of incompetent parents out there. And you wanna trust your kids life with big pharma as long as mom says it’s ok ?
 

eastcoastjoe

Well-known member
Because our health system would never take advantage of people for profit. Let me ask you something mustard, what are the long term side effects of taking hormone replacement and puberty blockers ? What about the mental health implications ?
 
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