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GD AngelDust & Cindy Williams Grow Log
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Sleepy..Thanx for saying so..but I still look at that plant and say "I don't know".. 
Just gave um a mini-flush last night..no probs really..just haven't done it since they were little..
Just did it to clear the salts a bit..cause I'm gonna hit um hard with nutes..next water..
The BD's are real slow going right now in the rapid rooters..I think I have roots on 3 clones..but they haven't made it through the RR's yet either..
I'm using my computer for something right now that uses almost all my bandwidth..so I can barely surf..I will post pics as soon as I can..
Just gave um a mini-flush last night..no probs really..just haven't done it since they were little..
Just did it to clear the salts a bit..cause I'm gonna hit um hard with nutes..next water..
The BD's are real slow going right now in the rapid rooters..I think I have roots on 3 clones..but they haven't made it through the RR's yet either..
I'm using my computer for something right now that uses almost all my bandwidth..so I can barely surf..I will post pics as soon as I can..
TML, packn used all his dilithium crystals on the last high bandwidth run to the Romulan Neutral Zone fighting the Clone Wars - I'm sure he's at the High Sierra Space Station rechargin his cells...
Check for breath under his nose is always a good idea - we old guys sometimes need to be force fed
to get us going... 
Speaking of which - I better check he didn't get sucked in on that last flush, hope the transporter is workin again...
Check for breath under his nose is always a good idea - we old guys sometimes need to be force fed
to get us going... Speaking of which - I better check he didn't get sucked in on that last flush, hope the transporter is workin again...
Checkin In
Checkin In
TML16.. What's up man..I've been up to other things..My media storage hard drive went out..
I tried all sorts of techs and even disassembled it a little..nothing, no help..so during boot-up..as the hard drive fail alarm is going off..
I went old school..and put the smack down on it with a knuckle..SOB..It works!
That drive has all my pics, videos and music on it..I backed up the music immediately..I was freaked thinking I lost my entire library..
MGJ.. Your pretty close..I was also engaged as a mercenary in the jungle of the South Pacific..saving the world and all that..
pontiac.. I think I'm gonna take some more pics after this post..
Well the AD clones are rooted..2 so far, are grown through..the 3rd looks to have roots but not grown out yet..
The BD seeds are stunted..just at tiny 1st leaves..and very dark..no roots through..
I think the roots are in trouble from the hormex that was in the water early on..no more of that on seedlings..
The plant's..I've done nothing since the flush..just growing..I'll water tomorrow..big nutes and Top Max..
One quick snap..before I transplanted AD4 & AD2's clone
AD4 Clone Roots 6-21-06
Checkin In
TML16..
What's up man..I've been up to other things..My media storage hard drive went out..I tried all sorts of techs and even disassembled it a little..nothing, no help..so during boot-up..as the hard drive fail alarm is going off..
I went old school..and put the smack down on it with a knuckle..SOB..It works!
That drive has all my pics, videos and music on it..I backed up the music immediately..I was freaked thinking I lost my entire library..
MGJ..
Your pretty close..I was also engaged as a mercenary in the jungle of the South Pacific..saving the world and all that.. pontiac..
I think I'm gonna take some more pics after this post..Well the AD clones are rooted..2 so far, are grown through..the 3rd looks to have roots but not grown out yet..
The BD seeds are stunted..just at tiny 1st leaves..and very dark..no roots through..
I think the roots are in trouble from the hormex that was in the water early on..no more of that on seedlings..
The plant's..I've done nothing since the flush..just growing..I'll water tomorrow..big nutes and Top Max..
One quick snap..before I transplanted AD4 & AD2's clone
AD4 Clone Roots 6-21-06
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OK PN2P that was from me and GMT. Do you realize that it takes me 2 hours to open every page on your thread? 
Living in the sticks is nice, but a few modern conveniences would be nice. 
Those plants are looking great Pn2P.
Will you be giving us a smoke report?Link to my new thread http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=30207
Keep up the good work
GCG
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Update Here!
Update Here!
Growdate: Day 78..Flower: Day 34 12/12 (Growdate from dry seed)
GCG..What's up dude..I'll have to check out the new thread after this..smoke report..well I'm just about out of bud..still plenty of hash..
The AD's & CW's..current grow is only half way done with flower..
Just got done feeding um at post time..I let um get real dry this time..CW5 was feeling the most pain..
speaking of which is gonna lose some bottom branches today..they don't stand a chance..might as well let the rest of the plant get the energy..
Added GHBB Bio-Grow, PB Original Bloom, Cal-Mag+, GHBB Top Max, and a wee bit of GH Floralicious Bloom..
Well the CW's aren't gonna be as bad as I thought..the single kola plant CW4 should do alright..
The topped and pregnant CW1..stayed at 3 ft..and should do OK
Here's all the current heights from top of soil:
Both AD2 & CW1 have visible seeds growing..where I hit um..but not where I didn't..
The BubbleDust seeds are stunted badly..one is doing OK..like it's gonna pull through..the other..I don't know..I'm preparing a bath for the plugs..
This will be a last ditch effort to save them..I believe the hormex levels were too high and is torching the roots..
So I'm gonna wash the plugs out real good in a bath of 6.2pH bubbling water..just gonna submerge them for a while..
Take them out then dry um with paper towels..we'll see
The AD clones are small, but alive and well..still revegging at 24/0..One still not transplanted..roots haven't grown through still..
To check their viability..I put them under the HPS..and point the leaf tilt away from the light..
the viable ones will correct the tilt and face toward the light fairly quickly..the 2 in pots now tilt nice and quick..
Just one pic of AD2's kola to see production..haven't been in a pic mood lately..but this pic is kinda nice..
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AngelDust #2 Kola Day 34 Flower 6-22-06
Update Here!
Growdate: Day 78..Flower: Day 34 12/12 (Growdate from dry seed)
GCG..What's up dude..I'll have to check out the new thread after this..smoke report..well I'm just about out of bud..still plenty of hash..
The AD's & CW's..current grow is only half way done with flower..
Just got done feeding um at post time..I let um get real dry this time..CW5 was feeling the most pain..
speaking of which is gonna lose some bottom branches today..they don't stand a chance..might as well let the rest of the plant get the energy..
Added GHBB Bio-Grow, PB Original Bloom, Cal-Mag+, GHBB Top Max, and a wee bit of GH Floralicious Bloom..
Well the CW's aren't gonna be as bad as I thought..the single kola plant CW4 should do alright..
The topped and pregnant CW1..stayed at 3 ft..and should do OK
Here's all the current heights from top of soil:
- AD1 - 30" - 76cm
- AD2 - 28" - 71cm
- AD4 - 29" - 74cm
- CW1 - 36" - 91cm
- CW2 - 51" - 130cm
- CW4 - 41" - 104cm
- CW5 - 49" - 125cm
Both AD2 & CW1 have visible seeds growing..where I hit um..but not where I didn't..
The BubbleDust seeds are stunted badly..one is doing OK..like it's gonna pull through..the other..I don't know..I'm preparing a bath for the plugs..
This will be a last ditch effort to save them..I believe the hormex levels were too high and is torching the roots..
So I'm gonna wash the plugs out real good in a bath of 6.2pH bubbling water..just gonna submerge them for a while..
Take them out then dry um with paper towels..we'll see
The AD clones are small, but alive and well..still revegging at 24/0..One still not transplanted..roots haven't grown through still..
To check their viability..I put them under the HPS..and point the leaf tilt away from the light..
the viable ones will correct the tilt and face toward the light fairly quickly..the 2 in pots now tilt nice and quick..
Just one pic of AD2's kola to see production..haven't been in a pic mood lately..but this pic is kinda nice..
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AngelDust #2 Kola Day 34 Flower 6-22-06
Hiya packn!
Wow - you've been busy dude...! Sorry about the BD, in another month or so you're gonna have some haul with the rest of them, and seeds to keep on growin...
AD2 picture is centerfold quality, with a very appropriate snowy background. Beautiful!
Wow - you've been busy dude...! Sorry about the BD, in another month or so you're gonna have some haul with the rest of them, and seeds to keep on growin...
AD2 picture is centerfold quality, with a very appropriate snowy background. Beautiful!
Back To Work..
Back To Work..
MGJ..Thanks man..I was determined to get something out of that pic..I took the same shot 18 times..just don't have the light to do what I wanna do..
That one was as close as I could get..I have some more interesting backgrounds to try..
Well my post fest may slow down soon..gonna have to go back to work..They wanted me to start a job today..I said I would be ready July 10th..
I've worked for almost 28 years straight..a 5 mo break has been nice..
The break has been nice..but don't wanna spend all my money either..I've tested and completed what I needed to do to start this new career..
I'm one interview away from having the education end of it completely paid for..on top of earning top wages while I learn..
In the long run if this all works out..I'm gonna make a lot more money than I was..Should be six figures in 4-5 years me thinks..
Anyway back to the grow..I gave the BD's in rapid rooters a bath in bubbling 6.0pH water..then I accidently broke an old airstone..
I've got the RR in one hand submerged and a air hose with a piece of plastic tube sticking out in the other..guess what I did?
I plugged the air tube into the rapid rooter and it bubbled under water just like an airstone brilliantly..cleaning it out..even helped to dry it out..
One seedling is already looking better..the other one is better but the stem has a slump-over crease that I now have propped using a toothpick..
This worked so well I did it to the last clone I'm waiting on roots to show though..
You could just go down the line once or twice a day plugging into your rapid rooters and bubbling air through..
I got so excited I dropped 4 more BubbleDust seeds in the ol shot glass at the time of this post too..see if they can catch up to the stunted ones..
I'm gonna plug in to these babies..just water this time..the shot glass water..well trying something new there too..
They are soaking in 1/3 3% H2O2 + 2/3 Water and a wet toothpick worth of Hormex..next time I'll switch from Hormex back to ST for the soak..
All for now..
Back To Work..
MGJ..Thanks man..I was determined to get something out of that pic..I took the same shot 18 times..just don't have the light to do what I wanna do..
That one was as close as I could get..I have some more interesting backgrounds to try..
Well my post fest may slow down soon..gonna have to go back to work..They wanted me to start a job today..I said I would be ready July 10th..
I've worked for almost 28 years straight..a 5 mo break has been nice..
The break has been nice..but don't wanna spend all my money either..I've tested and completed what I needed to do to start this new career..
I'm one interview away from having the education end of it completely paid for..on top of earning top wages while I learn..
In the long run if this all works out..I'm gonna make a lot more money than I was..Should be six figures in 4-5 years me thinks..
Anyway back to the grow..I gave the BD's in rapid rooters a bath in bubbling 6.0pH water..then I accidently broke an old airstone..
I've got the RR in one hand submerged and a air hose with a piece of plastic tube sticking out in the other..guess what I did?
I plugged the air tube into the rapid rooter and it bubbled under water just like an airstone brilliantly..cleaning it out..even helped to dry it out..
One seedling is already looking better..the other one is better but the stem has a slump-over crease that I now have propped using a toothpick..
This worked so well I did it to the last clone I'm waiting on roots to show though..
You could just go down the line once or twice a day plugging into your rapid rooters and bubbling air through..
I got so excited I dropped 4 more BubbleDust seeds in the ol shot glass at the time of this post too..see if they can catch up to the stunted ones..
I'm gonna plug in to these babies..just water this time..the shot glass water..well trying something new there too..
They are soaking in 1/3 3% H2O2 + 2/3 Water and a wet toothpick worth of Hormex..next time I'll switch from Hormex back to ST for the soak..
All for now..
GMT..Yeah it's time..the 10th I think I'll start..
pontiac..Thanks man..lets see how big she gets..I kinda wanna transplant to see what she does being the only one in a big pot..
Well my plug-in airstone Rapid Rooter trick..worked excellent..both the last clone and the one good BD seedling showed roots right away..
they must have loved that air bubbling action..
So I transplanted those two..I don't think the other seedling is gonna make it..
some of the CW's are in over-nute shock..the AD's are just fine..so just water for the CW's till I start the Kool Bloom treatments in about 1 1/2 weeks..
With what I fed um they'll either pack on the weight or choke on the big meal..
CW's are choking a bit especially the single kola CW4(on the front right) she is really rams horn curly right now..
Here's some quick full grow pics..AD2 in the front other AD's are rear center..other 4 are CW's..
Kinda hard to see with that back ground..but ya'all get the idea..
ADCW Wide Shot..Day 35 Flower 6-23-06
ADCW Grow..Day 35 Flower 6-23-06
pontiac..Thanks man..lets see how big she gets..I kinda wanna transplant to see what she does being the only one in a big pot..
Well my plug-in airstone Rapid Rooter trick..worked excellent..both the last clone and the one good BD seedling showed roots right away..
they must have loved that air bubbling action..
So I transplanted those two..I don't think the other seedling is gonna make it..
some of the CW's are in over-nute shock..the AD's are just fine..so just water for the CW's till I start the Kool Bloom treatments in about 1 1/2 weeks..
With what I fed um they'll either pack on the weight or choke on the big meal..
CW's are choking a bit especially the single kola CW4(on the front right) she is really rams horn curly right now..
Here's some quick full grow pics..AD2 in the front other AD's are rear center..other 4 are CW's..
Kinda hard to see with that back ground..but ya'all get the idea..
ADCW Wide Shot..Day 35 Flower 6-23-06
ADCW Grow..Day 35 Flower 6-23-06
It's about time you got a haircut and got a real job!
71-135 cm is quite the difference in height...how do you make up for the canopy difference? It appears by the pic you have some raised.
CW seems to like to grow to be huuuge bitches.
Everything is looking great as usual.
BD = Bubbledust...is that a Bubblegum X Angel Dust cross?
How's those branches you pollinated?
Is the pollination just reserved to that one branch? Not affecting the rest of your grow?
Am I asking enough questions?
TML16..Yeah I'm a good worker, but I hate working..Time to concentrate on putting as much as possible into retirement and savings..
So I don't have to work anymore..growing is a great retirement hobby..
Yes on the BD..American Bubblegum x Dutch Angel Dust..BubbleDust is a monster plant..the kola's are huge and dense..
Seeds are doing good on both AD2 & CW1..on the branches I hit and not elsewhere..
Did about 4 branches on each plant..I bagged the plant with a garbage bag..all except the branches on the bottom I selected for seeding..
The pollen I had saved..had clumped and wasn't looking good..but the plant was still barely alive..and had pollen all over it..so I cut off branches and leaves..
I dragged them over the buds..about a half hour later..I misted um down with water to keep any stray pollen down...
then pulled the bag..done..misted them a few more times..over the next day or so..
Last time with the BD I wasn't so careful and pollinated a third of my buds..
I went in to more detail and discussion on my BD Bud Porn thread in flower pix..
That thread is suppose to be a pic thread..but I sometimes get into discussions there too..
Well after nursing that tiny BD seedling..I don't think she'll make it..she had folded over at one point and made a crease in her stem..
I can now see there is no color around the crease..the plant and roots can't transfer energy me thinks..the other one is gonna be fine..
Also put 4 new BD seeds in rapid rooters..that I air bubbled in 6.0pH water..
Three clones will take awhile to get going..they are small and still revegging..but I think they'll make it..
I'll try to get pics of the next line up for now..I'm in the middle of another bandwidth hungry huge download..
this time I adjusted it so I could have enough bandwidth to surf..should be done tommorow afternoon me thinks
So I don't have to work anymore..growing is a great retirement hobby..
Yes on the BD..American Bubblegum x Dutch Angel Dust..BubbleDust is a monster plant..the kola's are huge and dense..
Seeds are doing good on both AD2 & CW1..on the branches I hit and not elsewhere..
Did about 4 branches on each plant..I bagged the plant with a garbage bag..all except the branches on the bottom I selected for seeding..
The pollen I had saved..had clumped and wasn't looking good..but the plant was still barely alive..and had pollen all over it..so I cut off branches and leaves..
I dragged them over the buds..about a half hour later..I misted um down with water to keep any stray pollen down...
then pulled the bag..done..misted them a few more times..over the next day or so..
Last time with the BD I wasn't so careful and pollinated a third of my buds..
I went in to more detail and discussion on my BD Bud Porn thread in flower pix..
That thread is suppose to be a pic thread..but I sometimes get into discussions there too..
Well after nursing that tiny BD seedling..I don't think she'll make it..she had folded over at one point and made a crease in her stem..
I can now see there is no color around the crease..the plant and roots can't transfer energy me thinks..the other one is gonna be fine..
Also put 4 new BD seeds in rapid rooters..that I air bubbled in 6.0pH water..
Three clones will take awhile to get going..they are small and still revegging..but I think they'll make it..
I'll try to get pics of the next line up for now..I'm in the middle of another bandwidth hungry huge download..
this time I adjusted it so I could have enough bandwidth to surf..should be done tommorow afternoon me thinks
The Next Generation
The Next Generation
Sleepy..Thanks man..
The CW's aren't dealing with the nutes well..so I flushed CW4 pretty good..no matter what pH I put in 7.1pH comes out...
7 gallons later adding 3.5pH water I got it to 6.9pH..with EJ Bloom PK only, little CalMag, little EJ Microblast, L Kharma, Top Max..on the last gallon..
I can only bubble and prep about 10gals at a time..I'll treat one at a time..worst cases 1st..
Been working on my 175W MH..looks like it needs a bulb..what a lemon..only made it two grows..and the ballast x-former is a hummer..My PL ballast is dead quiet..
Think I'm gonna get a 5.5K Eye Hortilux MH Clean Ace bulb..less lumens(12000 vs 15000 for 175W HOR MH) but better color and nearly twice the price..
Forgot to say but I cut CW2 down about 8"..along with a bunch of bottom branches..that plant sucks worse than CW5..
CW1 prego & CW4 aren't that bad..I'm glad I chose CW1 as the momma..she was topped but stopped stretching..CW2&5 are super stretchy basturds..
Forgot to answer height question..the AD's are on inverted pots..that's it for height control..and I just chopped the tops off CW2..they were gonna suck anyway..
I'm excited about the cross seeds..they should be fun..and I stand corrected..I've found just a few stray seeds elsewhere on the plant..
So here's a pic of a AD2's seed bud..
AD#2 Seed Bud 6-25-06
The Next Generation
Sleepy..Thanks man..
The CW's aren't dealing with the nutes well..so I flushed CW4 pretty good..no matter what pH I put in 7.1pH comes out...
7 gallons later adding 3.5pH water I got it to 6.9pH..with EJ Bloom PK only, little CalMag, little EJ Microblast, L Kharma, Top Max..on the last gallon..
I can only bubble and prep about 10gals at a time..I'll treat one at a time..worst cases 1st..
Been working on my 175W MH..looks like it needs a bulb..what a lemon..only made it two grows..and the ballast x-former is a hummer..My PL ballast is dead quiet..
Think I'm gonna get a 5.5K Eye Hortilux MH Clean Ace bulb..less lumens(12000 vs 15000 for 175W HOR MH) but better color and nearly twice the price..
Forgot to say but I cut CW2 down about 8"..along with a bunch of bottom branches..that plant sucks worse than CW5..
CW1 prego & CW4 aren't that bad..I'm glad I chose CW1 as the momma..she was topped but stopped stretching..CW2&5 are super stretchy basturds..
Forgot to answer height question..the AD's are on inverted pots..that's it for height control..and I just chopped the tops off CW2..they were gonna suck anyway..
I'm excited about the cross seeds..they should be fun..and I stand corrected..I've found just a few stray seeds elsewhere on the plant..
So here's a pic of a AD2's seed bud..
AD#2 Seed Bud 6-25-06
Thanks for the info pn2p.
So basically what your saying is: Take her in a dark room, put a bag over her head, then spray her down.
I guess that's why you're the director of the bud porn.
Too bad bout CW2, though I don't feel that bad for you considering all the other lovely ladies you have in your harem.
Looks like you'll have genetics for years to come.
Thank you for arming me with the knowledge, I can't wait to put it to practical use sometime.
So basically what your saying is: Take her in a dark room, put a bag over her head, then spray her down.
I guess that's why you're the director of the bud porn.
Too bad bout CW2, though I don't feel that bad for you considering all the other lovely ladies you have in your harem.
Looks like you'll have genetics for years to come.
Thank you for arming me with the knowledge, I can't wait to put it to practical use sometime.
packn
Glad to see you've been keepin up your breeding... I can see a whole new technique for rockwool culture, folks plugging 1600 gpm hoses into their little cubes with gigunda trees sticking up out of them...
Sorry about the CW, feel for ya man, run into a couple of rather not strains myself...
But those AD, dang man, gonna have to call you an angeldustologist!
Glad to see you've been keepin up your breeding... I can see a whole new technique for rockwool culture, folks plugging 1600 gpm hoses into their little cubes with gigunda trees sticking up out of them...
Sorry about the CW, feel for ya man, run into a couple of rather not strains myself...
But those AD, dang man, gonna have to call you an angeldustologist!
Seed development is looking good Pack, how long after I did mine did you do yours, coz most of mine seem done now. Always get a few that are still underdone when the majority are done, I just throw them away. Did you do a few sites or just that bud? Have you found that its slowed the rest of the plant at all?
