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Fungus gnats or WINGED ROOT APHIDS???
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so I did a rez change yesterday and a thorough cleaning of my ebb buckets. Today I still have not found a single moving nymph floating in my buckets, before the treatment a week ago there were hundreds. So the abamectin must have been pretty effective. I did find what looked to be one dead flier though. Finally have nice new root growth popping out of the netpots. The aba/imid drench was pretty tough on the roots.
I am going to be soaking in the riptide/orthene solution in veg. very soon. @ the recommended rate of 2.3 grams of Orthene and 2.5 ml of Riptide per gallon.
Any other advice or suggestions for me?
I am going to be soaking in the riptide/orthene solution in veg. very soon. @ the recommended rate of 2.3 grams of Orthene and 2.5 ml of Riptide per gallon.
Any other advice or suggestions for me?
Joe Mac,
There is a Met52 liquid. I talked to the salesman at my source. He said that the company is not recommending it as a drench.
The dry Met is a dusty green fungus on sterile rice grains. Basically the reason they aren't recommending it as a drench is that most people won't soak the entire medium for 30 minutes. The medium needs to be at or below the water/Met level or it won't get the RA's that hang just under the base of the plant, just underground. When you water with it, much of the medium/roots don't get wet with the Met52.
But in your Ebb, with Hydroton, it may work. I'm only speculating. You've knocked their numbers way back, and now a good, lasting preventive could work well. If you're willing to try it, you may be able to help your own operation, and pass the info on to help others in hydro. You'd have to be willing to keep it in your rez for as many changes as you can afford. Could get expensive. Good luck. -granger
There is a Met52 liquid. I talked to the salesman at my source. He said that the company is not recommending it as a drench.
The dry Met is a dusty green fungus on sterile rice grains. Basically the reason they aren't recommending it as a drench is that most people won't soak the entire medium for 30 minutes. The medium needs to be at or below the water/Met level or it won't get the RA's that hang just under the base of the plant, just underground. When you water with it, much of the medium/roots don't get wet with the Met52.
But in your Ebb, with Hydroton, it may work. I'm only speculating. You've knocked their numbers way back, and now a good, lasting preventive could work well. If you're willing to try it, you may be able to help your own operation, and pass the info on to help others in hydro. You'd have to be willing to keep it in your rez for as many changes as you can afford. Could get expensive. Good luck. -granger
hmmm, so I guess I will mix some into the netpots when I xplant into them. I will try and keep it on the root ball and away from the edges of the netpot, hopefully ensuring most of it stays within the pot and doesn't work it's way out. After a week or two the roots should be growing out of the pots and they should help keep the rice in.
. I was unaware that the fungus was grown on rice grains. I have been able to find very little info. about met online. Only several people saying it worked pretty well for them. Not real thrilled about introducing rice into a hydroponic medium. Oh well I already have it so gonna give it a shot in a week or two. Wish I would have found out about the liquid met earlier.
Anyway thanks granger. I'm very thankful for all info. I receive on this subject. Ra are a bitch!
Oh, one more thing. I mixed 5 oz/50 gallon rez of the evergreen liq.pyrethrin into my ebb flower rez. along with 20 oz of sns203 and 10 oz or the 209. I am waiting for the flood then I soaked from the top with a pump and hose dropped in my controller. It seems to be helping a lot. The number of floating nymphs in the buckets in the drain cycle is significantly less.
im tellin you, using multiple products every 3 days will do it. interupt the life cycle, this is KEY to total iradication. there are 7 life stages which they cycle through in 3-5 day intervals depending on temps and grow medium. ive been RA free for 3-4 months now. my thread "my war with the Root aphid" has my entire battle logged.
I'm working on it bro. Gonna do my soak in veg. probably tomorrow. with the riptide/orthene combo.
I am pretty limited as to what I can use in flower tho. Not to many options there. Any other suggestions for flower? I have been using sns203&209 along with liq. pyrethrin. It's been working pretty good. Not good enough tho. The azaguard I was using worked ok for a while too. Thinking about going back to it.
Got a link to your thread?
since your running hydro you are limited in flower for sure... i would just stick with the SNS and azamax/azatrol.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=260610
I've still got around half a quart of azaguard left. I would like to use this up before I invest in another neem product. I haven't used it in almost a month cuz. I thought they were developing resistance to it. Probably gonna start using it again.
I like how the azasol is powder instead of oil. You say it is more systemic?? How so?
Thank you for the link friend. I am also using liq. pyrethrin in flower
So I finally got to do my orthene/riptide soak last night. I let em soak for around 15 minutes also drenching from the top to prevent any from escaping. There are no visible ill effects from this after 24 hrs.
The sns/riptide I added to my flower rez is really starting to create problems. I am developing quite a slime bloom. Gonna change water and vaccum out buckets tomorrow I think.
Probably gonna go ahead and chop my kush and let the og finish as they seem to be more resistant to the aphids.
The sns/riptide I added to my flower rez is really starting to create problems. I am developing quite a slime bloom. Gonna change water and vaccum out buckets tomorrow I think.
Probably gonna go ahead and chop my kush and let the og finish as they seem to be more resistant to the aphids.
well damn
just finished doing rez. change and cleaning out buckets in flower. Helluva slime bloom going on in that system. I added some of the bleach solution to the fresh rez. to keep it in check. Glad I didn't add any nematodes there.
I noticed quite a few new defficiency symptoms showing in my tables. Looks like only adding the sns/pyrethrin to the rez. is not enough. Gonna have to go back to weekly drenchings w/the azaguard too. It must have been helping more than I thought.
Gonna go ahead and soak the rest of veg. with orthene/riptide tonight. After two days the other girls I treated with this combo still look good. No bugs in buckets and no def. symptoms showing on them.............fingers crossed.
just finished doing rez. change and cleaning out buckets in flower. Helluva slime bloom going on in that system. I added some of the bleach solution to the fresh rez. to keep it in check. Glad I didn't add any nematodes there. I noticed quite a few new defficiency symptoms showing in my tables. Looks like only adding the sns/pyrethrin to the rez. is not enough. Gonna have to go back to weekly drenchings w/the azaguard too. It must have been helping more than I thought.
Gonna go ahead and soak the rest of veg. with orthene/riptide tonight. After two days the other girls I treated with this combo still look good. No bugs in buckets and no def. symptoms showing on them.............fingers crossed.
Glad to hear the Orthene/Riptide combo is working for you!
Redeyed Jedi
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What is the earliest I can apply bayer tree and shrub? I have some hempy clones in solo cups that are filling up with aphids!!
How long do I have to wait to dose them? Should I wait until theyre in their final 2 gallon bucket?
How long do I have to wait to dose them? Should I wait until theyre in their final 2 gallon bucket?
