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Fresca sol water cooled grow fixture- anyone try one?

rr14

Member
that's true. I want to see as many facts and testimonies as possible to help me decide if they'll be right in my setup. There's not much factual info on them out there yet; just marketing.
 
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avgjoe

From what I saw at the hydro shop of the fresca sol... plants could probably pretty much touch the fixture. I literally used my bare hand and held the fixture while the bulb was blazing away. It felt luke warm - not remotely uncomfortable. And this was WITHOUT a chiller in the res. just 50 gallons circulating through one fixture.

I then wrote the mfg and he said running them vertically is not a problem and that they can be daisy chained together.

interesting.


also, I would imagine this could save lotsa money on AC with the right setup.


I can look for more details or ask questions nxt time i am around if ya guys want. they still have it set up.


peace.
 

rr14

Member
avgjoe, was it a fresca sol or liquid lumens light fixture... just curious.

i was thinking about this subject today and what do people do with algae growth? How do they prevent it? I'd imagine that you'd have to clean this thing out quite a bit. Anyone know anything about this?
 

Harry Gypsna

Dirty hippy Bastard
Veteran
a uv sterilizer would stop any algae growth..... im sure is some chemical you could use
mono-chloramine seems to spring to mind..... like what you put in an above ground kiddie pool......
 

rr14

Member
a uv sterilizer makes sense but essentially it's more gear linked up... I guess you could connect it to the power supply of the pump and run it after or before the pump.

I emailed liquid lumens about the air to water chiller and I haven't heard anything back.
 

Harry Gypsna

Dirty hippy Bastard
Veteran
the steriliser can be just outside the growroom by the lighting res.......,
chlorine will prevent algae but you woul hav to keep adding it as it breaks down fast...thats why i said mono-chloramine....its a mixture of chlorine and ammonia and it lasts a lot longer in the water than plain chlorine, and it doesnt eveaporate out withaeration- actually ppl should pay attention to tht, most ppl put their tap water out overnight to evaporate the chlorine, and some aerate it for the same reason...but many water companies now use the monochloramine instead of chlorine in tapwater because it last longer...... It might be worthwhile finding out of u have chlorine or mono-chloramine in ur water as if it Mono-chloramine, then bubbling it or leaving standing for a week wont make any difference, and any beneficial bacteria you are using are dead as dead......
 
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rr14

Member
dew point was something else added into the mix when using a liquid cooled light. I saw this after doing a google search:

In Fahrenheit


For example, a relative humidity of 100% means dew point is same as air temp. For 90% RH dew point is 3 degrees Fahrenheit lower than air temp. For every 10 percent lower, dew point drops 3 °F.

Tfd is in degrees Fahrenheit; RH same as above.


So using super cold water really isn't the best option either because you'll get "sweat" all over the lights and dripping onto your floor. I figure that I'd shoot for about 40%-45% humidity so that would give me about 16.5* difference between the fluid temp and the air temp for the dew point.

Does this stuff sound about right or is it completely wrong?
 

BudZad7

Active member
:wave: Hi All !! Nice Info!! Fresca Sol water cooled lights are setup at various
hydro stores, and the best setup I saw was a Mondo hood no silver, just white
and the Fresca Sol mounted inside with 2 brackets and 4 tap screws, a large 64
gal trash can with wheels, filled with 50 gals RO water/hydrogen peroxide that
will keep algae at bay, and the water hose hooked to the pump,and a large water stone bubbling at the bottom of trash can, then a chiller was doing it's job
keeping the water cold, but not freezing ....they say for every 10 feet of water hose you need a 100/gph pump, do the math for every 10 feet.....also they say if this light is in a parabolic hood that is the best light output....their ad has it mounted in a Silverstar 8" hood, it has hot spots, but they are gone with this light mounted inside they say.....as a witness to see a Silverstar 6" and an old
school parabolic hood with same 1000 w ballasts and same 940 w conversion
bulbs in each unit, the old school hood is doing better in yield/resin production
and with the same ferts being applied to both areas.....by the way the ballasts are from the mid 80's and still work fine, and when the BUZZ starts, change out the capacitor, and your good to go.....same company, bought a
newer ballast that they make 20 years later, lasted 2 years,changed capacitor and a year later it DIED completely same brand same company,they
are rippin us all off....anyway....still waiting for LiquidLumens to come to market before I shell out $ for either light,and also some FEEDBACK from cutomers also...........Peace! Price varies here from $375~$399

:headbange
 
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You could easily run the water through a cheap car heater core, and use your room's exhaust to cool the water before the air actually exits the room. :chin:
 

rr14

Member
budzad, why would they need a bubbler in the res for the light cooling? That's wierd.

Also, there's still some of the water cooled fixtures with the lights submerged being sold on ebay. They're $140. I'm waiting for the liquid lumens.
 
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rr14

Member
I was told that running r/o water with a little physan 90 would be fine. The r/o water has less junk for the algae to grow off of. Physan 90 is an algaecide.
 
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1love1earth said:
the best way is to just run with a solution that prevents algae growth, it really doesn't need to be water.
What else do you have in mind?
 

pezoholic

Member
actually they can be run dry or wet.....obviously dry is just a failsafe....they recommend 25gals for every 600w or a chiller. I run a 4 gal resi with a 1/10th hp chiller on a 400 digi setup with a 400w HX Blue for veg and 430w HX HPS for flower. I have run straight R/O with no additives for over 2 months now and no slimy water or algea (actually the water level hasnt changed at all!) Now what does happen, is what little shit there is left in the R/O starts to bake itself to the pyrex right where the hottest part of the light is....no biggie, clean after every run (replace them seals for safety!)
 
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sleepyrz

Member
i only have one word of inspiration for all of you


POOL


ok i cant leave it at that but a pool is the perfect thing for this

you could heat your pool and cool your room at the same time

all youd need is some tubing and a pump for circulation

and the chlorine in the pool would stop the algae



maybe even make a hot tub in the backyard?
 

pezoholic

Member
sleeperz its been done lol.....homeboy had 10 digi 1000w and a decent size pool and the pool was over 89* LOL way too warm to swim in ahahahh.
 

dusto2k3

Member
yeah, the pool has been done and it works well, just dont forget to make sure the return line is in the rez so you dont flood your room with 55gals like MY homeboy...hahahaha...but they work great and you can get them hella close to the plants, the glass is cool to the touch.
 
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