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Freeman-on-the-land - Lawful not Legal
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FreeMan
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Freeman-on-the-land forums permanently closed. Explanation is on the site.
http://www.fmotl.com/forum/index.php
http://www.fmotl.com/forum/index.php
wow, seems a shame to see that forum close down. at least folks can still read whats up already. wonder why she felt it had to be closed down?
FreeMan
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Veronica is actually a man who changed his fiction's title to further distance him from the person. It is a great shame to see that forum down, there are many good souls on there. I don't really agree with Veronica's views... he has the stance that his perception is gospel and other avenues shouldn't be explored. Maybe someone will act on his suggestion and create another forum which may be less restrictive on approach and open new areas of thought. A lot of my paperwork is being responded to in a very dismissive way with comments like "we know the website you got this from" etc (even though I never template or use the fmotl approach, which shows they don't comprehend what I have written), and I think this exposure has possibly contributed to his decision.
Oh well... life moves on. Maybe this is necessary for the next stage to commence. I'll keep you posted if people tend to settle on another board.
Think free!
Peace & Love... F.M.
Tactical Farmer
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Some history & UCC info:
WHY THE UCC1 FILING?
Short Explanation of the UCC1 and UCC Financing Statement
The first question most people ask me is why must I file my UCC1 and UCC Financing Statement? Below is a short explanation of how the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) was created and why.
Around the time of the war between the United States and the southern states of the American union, the United States was busy putting together a plan that would increase the jurisdiction of the United States. This plan was necessary because the United States had no subjects and only the land ceded to it from the states, ie. the District which was only ten miles square and such land as was necessary for forts, magazines, arsenals, etc.
Between the 1860's and the early 1900's, banking and taxing mechanisms were changing through legislation. Cunning people closely associated with the powers in England had great influence on the legislation being passed in the United States. Of course such legislation did not apply to the states or to the people in the states, but making the distinction was not deemed to be a necessary duty of the legislators. It was the responsibility of the people to understand their relationship to the United States and to the laws that were being passed by the legislature. This distinction between the United States and the states was taught in the homes and the schools and churches. The early admiralty courts did not interpret legislation as broadly at that time because the people knew when the courts were overstepping their jurisdiction. The people were in control because they knew who they were and where they were standing in relation to the United States.
In 1913 the United States added numerous private laws to its books that facilitated the increase of subjects and property for the United States. The 14th Amendment provided for a new class of citizens - United States citizens that had not formerly been recognized. Until the 14th Amendment in 1868, there were no persons born or naturalized in the United States.
They had all been born or naturalized in one of the several states. United States citizenship was a result of state citizenship. After the Civil War, a new class was recognized, and was the beginning of the democracy sited in the District of Columbia. The American people in the republic sited in the several states, could choose to benefit as one of these new United States citizens BY CHOICE. The new class of citizens was given the right to vote in the democracy in 1870 by the 15th Amendment. All it required was an application. Benefits came with this new citizenship, but with the benefits, came duties and responsibilities that were totally regulated by the legislature for the District of Columbia. Edward Mandell House is attributed with giving a very detailed outline of the plans to be implemented to enslave the American people. (1) The 13th Amendment in 1865 opened the way for the people to volunteer into slavery to accept the benefits offered by the United States. Whether House actually spoke the words or not, is really irrelevant because the scenario detailed in the statement attributed to him has clearly been implemented. Central banking for the United States was legislated with the Federal Reserve Act in 1913. The ability to decrease the currency in circulation through taxation was legislated with the 16th Amendment in 1913. Support for the presumption that the American people had volunteered to participate in the United States democracy was legislated with the 17th Amendment in 1913. The path was provided for the control of the courts, with the creation of the American Bar Association in 1913.
In 1917 the United States legislature passed the Trading with the Enemy Act and the Emergency War Powers Act, opening the doors for the United States to suspend limitations otherwise mandated in the Constitution. Even in times of peace, every contrived and created social, political, or financial emergency was sufficient authority for the officers of the United States to overstep its peace time powers and implement volumes of "law" that would increase the coffers of the United States. There is always a declared emergency in the United States and its States, but it only applies to their subjects.
In the 1920's the States accelerated the push for mothers to register their babies. Life was good and people were not paying attention to what was happening in government. The stock market crashed, and those who were not on the inside were not warned to take their money out before they lost everything.
In the 1930's federal legislation provided for registration of babies through applications for birth certificates, so government workers could get maternity leave with pay. The States pushed for registration of cars through applications for certificates of title, and for registration of land through registration of deeds of trust. Constructive trusts secretly were created as each of the people blindly walked into the United States democracy, thereby agreeing to be sureties for the debts of the United States. The great depression supplied the diversion to keep the people's attention off what government was doing. The Social Security program was implemented, along with numerous other United States programs that invited the American people to volunteer to be the sureties behind the United States' new registered property and adhesion contracts through the new United States subjects.
The plan was well on its path by 1933. Massive registration of property through United States agencies, including the State of _______ subdivisions, was assuring the United States and its officers would get rich beyond their wildest expectations, as predicted by Mendall House. All of this was done without disclosure of the material facts that accompanied each application for registration - fraud. The fraud was a sufficient reason to charge all the United States officers with treason, UNLESS a remedy could be supplied for the people to recoup their property and collect for the damages they suffered as a result of the fraud.
If remedies were available, and the people choose not to or failed to use their remedy, no charge of fraud could be sustained even in a common law court. The United States only needed to provide the remedy. It was not required to explain it or even tell the people where the remedy could be found. The attorneys did not even have to be taught about the remedy. That gave them plausible deniability when the people struggled to understand the new laws. The legislators did not have to have the intricate details of the law explained to them regarding the bills they were passing. That gave them plausible deniability. If the people failed to use their remedy, the United States came out the winner every time. If the people did discover their remedy, the United States had to honor it and release the registered property back to the people, but only if the people knew they had a remedy, and only if they requested it in the proper manner. It was a great plan.
With plausible deniability, even when the people knew they had a remedy and pursued it, the attorneys, judges, and legislators could act like they did not understand the people's claims. Requiring the public schools to teach civics, government, and history classes out of approved politically correct text books also assured the people would not find the remedy for a long time. Passing new State and Federal laws that appeared to subject the people to rules and regulations, added another level of protection against the people finding their remedy. The public media was molded to report politically correct, though substantially incorrect, news day after day, until few people would even think there could be a remedy available to them. The people could be separated from their money and their time to pursue the remedy long enough for the solutions to be lost in the pages of millions of books in huge law libraries across the country. So many people know there is something wrong with all the conflicts in the laws with the "facts" taught in the schools. How can the American people be free and subject to a sovereign government whims at the same time? Who would ever have thought the people would be resourceful enough to actually find the remedy? BUT they did!
In 1933 the United States put its insurance policy into place with House Joint Resolution 192 (2) and recorded it in the Congressional Record. It was not required to be promulgated in the Federal Register. An Executive Order issued on April 5, 1933 paving the way for the withdrawal of gold in the United States. Representative Louis T. McFadden brought formal charges on May 23, 1933 against the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Bank system, the Comptroller of the Currency, and the Secretary of the United States Treasury (Congressional Record May 23, 1933 page 4055-4058). HJR 192 passed on June 3, 1933. Mr. MaFadden claimed on June 10, 1933: "Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks…" HJR 192 is the insurance policy that protects the legislators from conviction for fraud and treason against the American people. It also protects the American people from damages caused by the actions of the United States.
HJR 192 provided that the one with the gold paid the bills. It removed the requirement that the United States subjects and employees had to pay their debts with gold. It actually prohibited the inclusion of a clause in all subsequent contracts that would require payment in gold. It also cancelled the clause in every contract written prior to June 5, 1933, that required an obligation to be paid in gold - retroactively. It provided that the United States subjects and employees could use any type of coin and currency to discharge a public debt as long as it was in use in the normal course of business in the United States. For a time, United States Notes were the currency used to discharge debts, but later the Federal Reserve and the United States provided a new medium of exchange through paper notes, and debt instruments that could be passed on to a debtor's creditors to discharge the debtor's debts. That same currency is available to us to use to discharge public debts.
In the 1950's the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) was presented to the States as a means of unifying the generally accepted procedures for handling the new legal system of dealing with commercial fictions as though they were real. Security instruments replaced substance as collateral for debts. Security instruments could be supported by presumptive contracts. Debt instruments with collateral, and accommodating parties, could be used instead of money. Money and the need for money was disappearing, and a uniform system of laws had to be put in place to allow the courts to uphold the security instruments that depended on commercial fictions as a basis for compelling payment or performance. All this was accomplished by the mid 1960's.
The uniform commercial code (ucc) is merely a codification of accepted and required procedures all people engaged in commercial activities must follow. The basic principles of commerce had been settled thousands of years ago, but were refined as commerce become more sophisticated over the years. In the 1900's the age-old principles of commerce shifted from substance to form. Presumption became a big part of the law. Without giving a degree of force to presumption, the new direction in enforcing commercial claims could not be supported in courts. If the claimants were required to produce their claims every time they tried to collect money or time from the people, they would seldom be successful. The principles expressed in the code combine the means of dealing with substantive commercial activities with the means of dealing with presumptive commercial activities. These principles work as well for the people as they do for the deceivers. The rules do not respect persons.
Those who enticed the people to register their things with the United States and its sub-divisions, gained control of the substance through the registrations. The United States became the Holder of the titles to many things. The definition of "property" is the interest one has in a thing. The thing is the principal. The property is the interest in the thing. Profits (interest) made from the property of another; belong to the owner of the thing. Profits were made by the deceivers by pledging the registered property in commercial markets, but the profits do not belong to the deceivers. The profits belong to the owners of the things. That is always the people. The corporation only shows ownership of paper - titles to things. The substance cannot appear in the fiction. [[Watch the movie Last Action Hero and watch the confusion created when they try to mix substance and fiction.]] Sometimes the fiction is made to look very much like substance, but fiction can never become substance. It is impossibility.
The profits from all the registered things had to be put into trust (constructive) for the benefit of the owners. If the profits were put into the general fund of the United States and not into separate trusts for the owners, the scheme would represent fraud. The profits for each owner could not be commingled. If the owner failed to use his available remedy (fictional credits held in a constructive trust account, fund, or financial ledger) to benefit from the profits, it would not be the fault of the deceivers. If the owner failed to learn the law that would open the door to his remedy, it would not be the fault of the deceivers. The owner is responsible for learning the law, so he understands that the profits from his things are available for him to discharge debts or charges brought against his public person by the United States.
If the United States has the "gold", the United States pays the bills (from the trust account, fund, or financial ledger). The definition of "fund" is money set aside to pay a debt. The fund is there to discharge the public debts attributed to the United States subjects, but ultimately back to the accommodating parties - the American people. The national debt that is owed is to the owners of the registered things - the American people, as well as to other creditors.
If the United States owes a debt to the owner of the thing, and the owner is presumed (by accommodation) to owe a public debt to the United States, the logical thing is to ask the United States to discharge that public debt from the trust fund. The way for the United States to get around having to pay the public debts for the people is to claim the owner cannot be an owner if he agreed to be the accommodating party for a debtor person. If the people are truly the principle, then they know how to handle their financial and political affairs, ULNESS they have never been taught. If the owner admits by his actions out of ignorance, that he is an accommodating party, he has taken on the debtor's liabilities without getting consideration in exchange. Here lies the fiction again. The owner of the thing does not have to knowingly agree to be the accommodating party for the debtor person; he just has to act like he agreed. That is easy if he has a choice of going to jail or signing for the debtor person. The presumption that he is the accommodating party is strong enough for the courts to hold the owner of the thing liable for a tax on the thing he actually owns.
Debtors may have the use of certain things, but the things belong to the creditors. The creditor is the master. The debtor is the servant. The Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) is very specific about the duties and responsibilities a debtor has. If the owner of the thing is presumed to be a debtor because of his previous admissions and adhesion contracts, he is going to have a difficult time convincing the United States that it has a duty to discharge public debts for him. In addition, the courts are staffed with loyal judges who will look for every mistake the people make when trying to use their remedy.
There is a very powerful tool the people can use to help them get to the real issues when they find themselves up against the power of presumption. The law provides for either party of an admiralty court action to OBJECT to a line of questioning. When you object in that court setting, you must tell the judge why you object, or he will overrule your objection. The reason is:
"This line of questioning assumes facts not in evidence."
You can request that evidence of the Plaintiff's claim be entered as evidence. If the judge overrules this fundamental, basic, underlying, necessary principle of establishing jurisdiction and right to make a charge, there is a major procedural error in the proceeding. Granting impersonam jurisdiction to get to the bottom of the issue is vastly better than arguing, "I'm not that person."
The owner of the thing, after learning the law and discovering who he is in relation to the United States, can file a (UCC1) UCC Financing Statement and Security Agreement registering his interest in the artificial entity (PERSON) the United States created after Mom applied for a birth certificate. That was the act of registering her biological property, her baby (substance), with the State of _______. The United States holds the paper title (form), not the substance (baby). Until your (UCC1) UCC Financing Statement is filed, the United States is the holder of the title to the artificial entity. Its name is spelled in all capital letter - JOHN HENRY DOE (your name in all capital letters). When John Henry Doe files the (UCC1) UCC Financing Statement supported by a Security Agreement signed by the artificial entity (JOHN) and the owner (John), he becomes the holder in due course of the title to JOHN. The UCC and the State commercial law are very specific about the effect of a registered security interest. It has priority over most other interest claimed (only claimed) in the same thing. The evidence that is missing in the court is the registered claim over the person (JOHN).
The owner also must notify the Secretary of the Treasury that he is going to handle his own affairs in the future. He can file a Bill of Exchange with the Secretary through which he exchanges his person's accepted-for-value birth certificate and social security numbers, for a chargeback of all the presumed charges brought against his person since the birth certificate was issued.
The owner can also reserve a non-cash Federal Reserve routing number and any number of non-cash instrument numbers by filing an amendment to his (UCC1) UCC Financing Statement or just including his reservation on his original Financing Statement. Each bank account opened in the name of the owner's person has a routing number. If an account is open, it is available to process cash items. If you write a check to the plumber, it can be converted to cash at your bank. You cannot write a check on an account that has been closed. Those accounts and their routing numbers are reserved for non-cash items for the person (JOHN) that opened the account originally. Accounts that have been closed by the bank instead of the person should not be used for non-cash items. Once this is done, you are in a position to begin receiving reimbursements against the obligation the United States owes to you for money and time it has received that belongs to you.
The owner of registered things, who has learned the law and what his rights are, and has filed his (UCC1) UCC Financing Statement, Security Agreement, and Bill of Exchange, and reserved his non-cash account routing numbers, can issue an instrument indicating his UCC registration number, his registered Federal Reserve routing number, the name of the public party making a charge against his person, and the amount of the debt to be discharge.
Think of the whole transaction in relation to a dead battery. The batter represents your public person (JOHN), which is a dead entity that can function within the public maize of fiction, transmitting benefits from the public to you in the private IF it is charged up. You cannot go into the public because you are not a fiction. JOHN has no power until it is charged with some energy. That energy comes from an IRS default notice, court judgment, credit card bill, utility bill, traffic ticket, or some other instrument that has a $ amount and JOHN's name on it as the presumed debtor. The bill is the energy. It charges the dead JOHN. You can now discharge JOHN and put JOHN's accrual account with the charging party back to a zero balance. You as the secured party over the assets put up as security by JOHN to you as collateral for the debt JOHN owes you, can discharge JOHN with a negotiable instrument for the same $ amount as the charging instrument. The charging party that receives your non-cash item can 1) process it through a United States department, 2) give it to a third party, 3) keep it to increase its liquidity.
When you, as the owner of a thing, registered it with the United States or one of its subdivisions, you let the United States hold the legal title to your thing based on misrepresentation and failure to disclose material facts to you at the time of registration. You probably retained possession of the thing. The United States invested the title and made a profit. If you did not specifically authorize the United States and its agents to invest the legal title, the profits made from that title belong to you, because as the owner, you remain the equitable title holder. Legally all the profits from the investment of the titles to all your registered things must go into a fund for your benefit. If they did not put the profits in a trust fund of some sort, it would be fraud.
Just acquiring the titles through what is promoted as mandatory registration, is fraud. If the scenario attributed to Mandell House is now in full application in the United States, which it is, the officers of the United States could be charged and convicted with treason IF they had not provided a remedy, which they did. -- House Joint Resolution 192 on June 5, 1933. This is their insurance policy to assure they are not convicted of treason. That does not mean they cannot be charged with treason, but the courts will dismiss based on failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted. Because you have a remedy outside the court, you cannot sustain a charge of treason.
The problem in the past with trying to discharge public debts with instruments that could not be processed through your bank on the corner was that those discharge instruments did not route through the Federal Reserve. It is the bean counter for the national debt. That debt is first and primarily owed to the people who are the equitable titleholders of all the substance in this country. If you try to discharge a public debt with your discharge instrument, and you do not route it through the Federal Reserve, it appears you are receiving a benefit from the United States without exchanging it for something of value. This is not technically correct because you have a right to be reimbursed, whether or not you apply it toward the debt the United States owes you. You are the substance; it is the fiction.
If you do route your discharge instrument through the Federal Reserve, where the national debt owed to you can be reduced by the amount of the instrument, you have made an exchange that fits nicely into their accrual bookkeeping system. Your PERSON's charge from the charging party within the United States commercial scheme is discharged, and the debt the United States owes to you is discharged by the same amount. That is a quid pro quo, and everyone is happy, EXCEPT those who are not interested in the money but just want to be in control from behind the scenes.
To accomplish this quid pro quo exchange:
1. your claim to being one of the people must appear on a public register (the Secretary of State),
2. you must have an account with the banker for the United States (the Secretary of the Treasury),
3. you must have given notice of your reservation of routing numbers through the national debt accountant (the Federal Reserve),
4. you must refer to the insurance policy that covers your remedy (House Joint Resolution 192),
5. you must make your instrument negotiable so it can be used by the United States for a profit,
6. you must transmit your instrument back into the public through an agent (your registered debtor),
7. you must only use a non-cash item for this exchange,
8. you must do a banker's acceptance of a charging instrument to attach to your non-cash item, and
9. you must understand that you are not getting something for nothing
reserving your routing numbers to use on your discharge instruments is not as difficult as was thought during the previous decade. Every person has opened bank accounts in the past that have been closed for one reason for another. On the bottom of the checks for those closed bank accounts are a routing number to the particular bank and a routing number to the particular account. Each check has a check number. When you put the check number together with the two routing numbers, you have a means of tracking each item that goes through the worldwide banking system. The routing numbers on the bottom of the checks from accounts your person has closed will never be reassigned. They are attached to your person's NAME forever and kept in the records of the Federal Reserve.
Bank accounts that are still open and active are used for cash items. Checks written on these open bank accounts can be taken to the particular bank and CASHED. This is the type of instrument used in commercial transactions everyday. There is a fund attached to the check from which the debt evidenced by the check can be paid.
Bank accounts that are no longer open and active cannot be used to process cash items. They can only be used to process non-cash items. They require special handling. Title 12 of USC and CFR explain how and when receiving banks are to process non-cash items. A closed bank account associated with your debtor's NAME, has routing numbers that can route your discharge instrument through the Federal Reserve to reduce the national debt to you and increase the balance of the bank account of the party that is charging your debtor. It is a WIN WIN situation.
The charging party is instructed to mail the discharge instrument to the Secretary of Transportation. Title 46 has sufficient evidence to support the proposition that the Secretary is the trustee over some or all vessels mortgaged by the United States. If your debtor PERSON is presumed to be a vessel, it is regulated by the Secretary of Transportation through the Maritime Ministries Administration that is the proper party to assist in processing your non-cash item. The Secretary of Transportation can forward the item to the Secretary of the Treasury, who already has been notified to prepare for non-cash activity in your treasury direct account on the Bill of Exchange. The Secretary of the Treasury is directly related to the Federal Reserve. Between the Treasury and the Federal Reserve, your non-cash item can be directed to the proper parties to settle the account and get everyone into that quid pro quo position we want.
The United States and its co-business partners are debtors to you. You are the creditor, not only over your debtor PERSON, but also over the United States, the legal titleholder over the registered things to which you are the equitable titleholder. You are the primary creditor, so if the United States has other creditors, like the international bankers, they cannot jump to the front of the line. Their claims are subordinated to your claims if your claims are registered and if you understand the law surrounding what you are doing.
LEARN THE LAW FIRST, THEN JUMP OFF THE CLIFF!!!!!!!!!
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WHY THE UCC1 FILING?
Short Explanation of the UCC1 and UCC Financing Statement
The first question most people ask me is why must I file my UCC1 and UCC Financing Statement? Below is a short explanation of how the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) was created and why.
Around the time of the war between the United States and the southern states of the American union, the United States was busy putting together a plan that would increase the jurisdiction of the United States. This plan was necessary because the United States had no subjects and only the land ceded to it from the states, ie. the District which was only ten miles square and such land as was necessary for forts, magazines, arsenals, etc.
Between the 1860's and the early 1900's, banking and taxing mechanisms were changing through legislation. Cunning people closely associated with the powers in England had great influence on the legislation being passed in the United States. Of course such legislation did not apply to the states or to the people in the states, but making the distinction was not deemed to be a necessary duty of the legislators. It was the responsibility of the people to understand their relationship to the United States and to the laws that were being passed by the legislature. This distinction between the United States and the states was taught in the homes and the schools and churches. The early admiralty courts did not interpret legislation as broadly at that time because the people knew when the courts were overstepping their jurisdiction. The people were in control because they knew who they were and where they were standing in relation to the United States.
In 1913 the United States added numerous private laws to its books that facilitated the increase of subjects and property for the United States. The 14th Amendment provided for a new class of citizens - United States citizens that had not formerly been recognized. Until the 14th Amendment in 1868, there were no persons born or naturalized in the United States.
They had all been born or naturalized in one of the several states. United States citizenship was a result of state citizenship. After the Civil War, a new class was recognized, and was the beginning of the democracy sited in the District of Columbia. The American people in the republic sited in the several states, could choose to benefit as one of these new United States citizens BY CHOICE. The new class of citizens was given the right to vote in the democracy in 1870 by the 15th Amendment. All it required was an application. Benefits came with this new citizenship, but with the benefits, came duties and responsibilities that were totally regulated by the legislature for the District of Columbia. Edward Mandell House is attributed with giving a very detailed outline of the plans to be implemented to enslave the American people. (1) The 13th Amendment in 1865 opened the way for the people to volunteer into slavery to accept the benefits offered by the United States. Whether House actually spoke the words or not, is really irrelevant because the scenario detailed in the statement attributed to him has clearly been implemented. Central banking for the United States was legislated with the Federal Reserve Act in 1913. The ability to decrease the currency in circulation through taxation was legislated with the 16th Amendment in 1913. Support for the presumption that the American people had volunteered to participate in the United States democracy was legislated with the 17th Amendment in 1913. The path was provided for the control of the courts, with the creation of the American Bar Association in 1913.
In 1917 the United States legislature passed the Trading with the Enemy Act and the Emergency War Powers Act, opening the doors for the United States to suspend limitations otherwise mandated in the Constitution. Even in times of peace, every contrived and created social, political, or financial emergency was sufficient authority for the officers of the United States to overstep its peace time powers and implement volumes of "law" that would increase the coffers of the United States. There is always a declared emergency in the United States and its States, but it only applies to their subjects.
In the 1920's the States accelerated the push for mothers to register their babies. Life was good and people were not paying attention to what was happening in government. The stock market crashed, and those who were not on the inside were not warned to take their money out before they lost everything.
In the 1930's federal legislation provided for registration of babies through applications for birth certificates, so government workers could get maternity leave with pay. The States pushed for registration of cars through applications for certificates of title, and for registration of land through registration of deeds of trust. Constructive trusts secretly were created as each of the people blindly walked into the United States democracy, thereby agreeing to be sureties for the debts of the United States. The great depression supplied the diversion to keep the people's attention off what government was doing. The Social Security program was implemented, along with numerous other United States programs that invited the American people to volunteer to be the sureties behind the United States' new registered property and adhesion contracts through the new United States subjects.
The plan was well on its path by 1933. Massive registration of property through United States agencies, including the State of _______ subdivisions, was assuring the United States and its officers would get rich beyond their wildest expectations, as predicted by Mendall House. All of this was done without disclosure of the material facts that accompanied each application for registration - fraud. The fraud was a sufficient reason to charge all the United States officers with treason, UNLESS a remedy could be supplied for the people to recoup their property and collect for the damages they suffered as a result of the fraud.
If remedies were available, and the people choose not to or failed to use their remedy, no charge of fraud could be sustained even in a common law court. The United States only needed to provide the remedy. It was not required to explain it or even tell the people where the remedy could be found. The attorneys did not even have to be taught about the remedy. That gave them plausible deniability when the people struggled to understand the new laws. The legislators did not have to have the intricate details of the law explained to them regarding the bills they were passing. That gave them plausible deniability. If the people failed to use their remedy, the United States came out the winner every time. If the people did discover their remedy, the United States had to honor it and release the registered property back to the people, but only if the people knew they had a remedy, and only if they requested it in the proper manner. It was a great plan.
With plausible deniability, even when the people knew they had a remedy and pursued it, the attorneys, judges, and legislators could act like they did not understand the people's claims. Requiring the public schools to teach civics, government, and history classes out of approved politically correct text books also assured the people would not find the remedy for a long time. Passing new State and Federal laws that appeared to subject the people to rules and regulations, added another level of protection against the people finding their remedy. The public media was molded to report politically correct, though substantially incorrect, news day after day, until few people would even think there could be a remedy available to them. The people could be separated from their money and their time to pursue the remedy long enough for the solutions to be lost in the pages of millions of books in huge law libraries across the country. So many people know there is something wrong with all the conflicts in the laws with the "facts" taught in the schools. How can the American people be free and subject to a sovereign government whims at the same time? Who would ever have thought the people would be resourceful enough to actually find the remedy? BUT they did!
In 1933 the United States put its insurance policy into place with House Joint Resolution 192 (2) and recorded it in the Congressional Record. It was not required to be promulgated in the Federal Register. An Executive Order issued on April 5, 1933 paving the way for the withdrawal of gold in the United States. Representative Louis T. McFadden brought formal charges on May 23, 1933 against the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Bank system, the Comptroller of the Currency, and the Secretary of the United States Treasury (Congressional Record May 23, 1933 page 4055-4058). HJR 192 passed on June 3, 1933. Mr. MaFadden claimed on June 10, 1933: "Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks…" HJR 192 is the insurance policy that protects the legislators from conviction for fraud and treason against the American people. It also protects the American people from damages caused by the actions of the United States.
HJR 192 provided that the one with the gold paid the bills. It removed the requirement that the United States subjects and employees had to pay their debts with gold. It actually prohibited the inclusion of a clause in all subsequent contracts that would require payment in gold. It also cancelled the clause in every contract written prior to June 5, 1933, that required an obligation to be paid in gold - retroactively. It provided that the United States subjects and employees could use any type of coin and currency to discharge a public debt as long as it was in use in the normal course of business in the United States. For a time, United States Notes were the currency used to discharge debts, but later the Federal Reserve and the United States provided a new medium of exchange through paper notes, and debt instruments that could be passed on to a debtor's creditors to discharge the debtor's debts. That same currency is available to us to use to discharge public debts.
In the 1950's the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) was presented to the States as a means of unifying the generally accepted procedures for handling the new legal system of dealing with commercial fictions as though they were real. Security instruments replaced substance as collateral for debts. Security instruments could be supported by presumptive contracts. Debt instruments with collateral, and accommodating parties, could be used instead of money. Money and the need for money was disappearing, and a uniform system of laws had to be put in place to allow the courts to uphold the security instruments that depended on commercial fictions as a basis for compelling payment or performance. All this was accomplished by the mid 1960's.
The uniform commercial code (ucc) is merely a codification of accepted and required procedures all people engaged in commercial activities must follow. The basic principles of commerce had been settled thousands of years ago, but were refined as commerce become more sophisticated over the years. In the 1900's the age-old principles of commerce shifted from substance to form. Presumption became a big part of the law. Without giving a degree of force to presumption, the new direction in enforcing commercial claims could not be supported in courts. If the claimants were required to produce their claims every time they tried to collect money or time from the people, they would seldom be successful. The principles expressed in the code combine the means of dealing with substantive commercial activities with the means of dealing with presumptive commercial activities. These principles work as well for the people as they do for the deceivers. The rules do not respect persons.
Those who enticed the people to register their things with the United States and its sub-divisions, gained control of the substance through the registrations. The United States became the Holder of the titles to many things. The definition of "property" is the interest one has in a thing. The thing is the principal. The property is the interest in the thing. Profits (interest) made from the property of another; belong to the owner of the thing. Profits were made by the deceivers by pledging the registered property in commercial markets, but the profits do not belong to the deceivers. The profits belong to the owners of the things. That is always the people. The corporation only shows ownership of paper - titles to things. The substance cannot appear in the fiction. [[Watch the movie Last Action Hero and watch the confusion created when they try to mix substance and fiction.]] Sometimes the fiction is made to look very much like substance, but fiction can never become substance. It is impossibility.
The profits from all the registered things had to be put into trust (constructive) for the benefit of the owners. If the profits were put into the general fund of the United States and not into separate trusts for the owners, the scheme would represent fraud. The profits for each owner could not be commingled. If the owner failed to use his available remedy (fictional credits held in a constructive trust account, fund, or financial ledger) to benefit from the profits, it would not be the fault of the deceivers. If the owner failed to learn the law that would open the door to his remedy, it would not be the fault of the deceivers. The owner is responsible for learning the law, so he understands that the profits from his things are available for him to discharge debts or charges brought against his public person by the United States.
If the United States has the "gold", the United States pays the bills (from the trust account, fund, or financial ledger). The definition of "fund" is money set aside to pay a debt. The fund is there to discharge the public debts attributed to the United States subjects, but ultimately back to the accommodating parties - the American people. The national debt that is owed is to the owners of the registered things - the American people, as well as to other creditors.
If the United States owes a debt to the owner of the thing, and the owner is presumed (by accommodation) to owe a public debt to the United States, the logical thing is to ask the United States to discharge that public debt from the trust fund. The way for the United States to get around having to pay the public debts for the people is to claim the owner cannot be an owner if he agreed to be the accommodating party for a debtor person. If the people are truly the principle, then they know how to handle their financial and political affairs, ULNESS they have never been taught. If the owner admits by his actions out of ignorance, that he is an accommodating party, he has taken on the debtor's liabilities without getting consideration in exchange. Here lies the fiction again. The owner of the thing does not have to knowingly agree to be the accommodating party for the debtor person; he just has to act like he agreed. That is easy if he has a choice of going to jail or signing for the debtor person. The presumption that he is the accommodating party is strong enough for the courts to hold the owner of the thing liable for a tax on the thing he actually owns.
Debtors may have the use of certain things, but the things belong to the creditors. The creditor is the master. The debtor is the servant. The Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) is very specific about the duties and responsibilities a debtor has. If the owner of the thing is presumed to be a debtor because of his previous admissions and adhesion contracts, he is going to have a difficult time convincing the United States that it has a duty to discharge public debts for him. In addition, the courts are staffed with loyal judges who will look for every mistake the people make when trying to use their remedy.
There is a very powerful tool the people can use to help them get to the real issues when they find themselves up against the power of presumption. The law provides for either party of an admiralty court action to OBJECT to a line of questioning. When you object in that court setting, you must tell the judge why you object, or he will overrule your objection. The reason is:
"This line of questioning assumes facts not in evidence."
You can request that evidence of the Plaintiff's claim be entered as evidence. If the judge overrules this fundamental, basic, underlying, necessary principle of establishing jurisdiction and right to make a charge, there is a major procedural error in the proceeding. Granting impersonam jurisdiction to get to the bottom of the issue is vastly better than arguing, "I'm not that person."
The owner of the thing, after learning the law and discovering who he is in relation to the United States, can file a (UCC1) UCC Financing Statement and Security Agreement registering his interest in the artificial entity (PERSON) the United States created after Mom applied for a birth certificate. That was the act of registering her biological property, her baby (substance), with the State of _______. The United States holds the paper title (form), not the substance (baby). Until your (UCC1) UCC Financing Statement is filed, the United States is the holder of the title to the artificial entity. Its name is spelled in all capital letter - JOHN HENRY DOE (your name in all capital letters). When John Henry Doe files the (UCC1) UCC Financing Statement supported by a Security Agreement signed by the artificial entity (JOHN) and the owner (John), he becomes the holder in due course of the title to JOHN. The UCC and the State commercial law are very specific about the effect of a registered security interest. It has priority over most other interest claimed (only claimed) in the same thing. The evidence that is missing in the court is the registered claim over the person (JOHN).
The owner also must notify the Secretary of the Treasury that he is going to handle his own affairs in the future. He can file a Bill of Exchange with the Secretary through which he exchanges his person's accepted-for-value birth certificate and social security numbers, for a chargeback of all the presumed charges brought against his person since the birth certificate was issued.
The owner can also reserve a non-cash Federal Reserve routing number and any number of non-cash instrument numbers by filing an amendment to his (UCC1) UCC Financing Statement or just including his reservation on his original Financing Statement. Each bank account opened in the name of the owner's person has a routing number. If an account is open, it is available to process cash items. If you write a check to the plumber, it can be converted to cash at your bank. You cannot write a check on an account that has been closed. Those accounts and their routing numbers are reserved for non-cash items for the person (JOHN) that opened the account originally. Accounts that have been closed by the bank instead of the person should not be used for non-cash items. Once this is done, you are in a position to begin receiving reimbursements against the obligation the United States owes to you for money and time it has received that belongs to you.
The owner of registered things, who has learned the law and what his rights are, and has filed his (UCC1) UCC Financing Statement, Security Agreement, and Bill of Exchange, and reserved his non-cash account routing numbers, can issue an instrument indicating his UCC registration number, his registered Federal Reserve routing number, the name of the public party making a charge against his person, and the amount of the debt to be discharge.
Think of the whole transaction in relation to a dead battery. The batter represents your public person (JOHN), which is a dead entity that can function within the public maize of fiction, transmitting benefits from the public to you in the private IF it is charged up. You cannot go into the public because you are not a fiction. JOHN has no power until it is charged with some energy. That energy comes from an IRS default notice, court judgment, credit card bill, utility bill, traffic ticket, or some other instrument that has a $ amount and JOHN's name on it as the presumed debtor. The bill is the energy. It charges the dead JOHN. You can now discharge JOHN and put JOHN's accrual account with the charging party back to a zero balance. You as the secured party over the assets put up as security by JOHN to you as collateral for the debt JOHN owes you, can discharge JOHN with a negotiable instrument for the same $ amount as the charging instrument. The charging party that receives your non-cash item can 1) process it through a United States department, 2) give it to a third party, 3) keep it to increase its liquidity.
When you, as the owner of a thing, registered it with the United States or one of its subdivisions, you let the United States hold the legal title to your thing based on misrepresentation and failure to disclose material facts to you at the time of registration. You probably retained possession of the thing. The United States invested the title and made a profit. If you did not specifically authorize the United States and its agents to invest the legal title, the profits made from that title belong to you, because as the owner, you remain the equitable title holder. Legally all the profits from the investment of the titles to all your registered things must go into a fund for your benefit. If they did not put the profits in a trust fund of some sort, it would be fraud.
Just acquiring the titles through what is promoted as mandatory registration, is fraud. If the scenario attributed to Mandell House is now in full application in the United States, which it is, the officers of the United States could be charged and convicted with treason IF they had not provided a remedy, which they did. -- House Joint Resolution 192 on June 5, 1933. This is their insurance policy to assure they are not convicted of treason. That does not mean they cannot be charged with treason, but the courts will dismiss based on failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted. Because you have a remedy outside the court, you cannot sustain a charge of treason.
The problem in the past with trying to discharge public debts with instruments that could not be processed through your bank on the corner was that those discharge instruments did not route through the Federal Reserve. It is the bean counter for the national debt. That debt is first and primarily owed to the people who are the equitable titleholders of all the substance in this country. If you try to discharge a public debt with your discharge instrument, and you do not route it through the Federal Reserve, it appears you are receiving a benefit from the United States without exchanging it for something of value. This is not technically correct because you have a right to be reimbursed, whether or not you apply it toward the debt the United States owes you. You are the substance; it is the fiction.
If you do route your discharge instrument through the Federal Reserve, where the national debt owed to you can be reduced by the amount of the instrument, you have made an exchange that fits nicely into their accrual bookkeeping system. Your PERSON's charge from the charging party within the United States commercial scheme is discharged, and the debt the United States owes to you is discharged by the same amount. That is a quid pro quo, and everyone is happy, EXCEPT those who are not interested in the money but just want to be in control from behind the scenes.
To accomplish this quid pro quo exchange:
1. your claim to being one of the people must appear on a public register (the Secretary of State),
2. you must have an account with the banker for the United States (the Secretary of the Treasury),
3. you must have given notice of your reservation of routing numbers through the national debt accountant (the Federal Reserve),
4. you must refer to the insurance policy that covers your remedy (House Joint Resolution 192),
5. you must make your instrument negotiable so it can be used by the United States for a profit,
6. you must transmit your instrument back into the public through an agent (your registered debtor),
7. you must only use a non-cash item for this exchange,
8. you must do a banker's acceptance of a charging instrument to attach to your non-cash item, and
9. you must understand that you are not getting something for nothing
reserving your routing numbers to use on your discharge instruments is not as difficult as was thought during the previous decade. Every person has opened bank accounts in the past that have been closed for one reason for another. On the bottom of the checks for those closed bank accounts are a routing number to the particular bank and a routing number to the particular account. Each check has a check number. When you put the check number together with the two routing numbers, you have a means of tracking each item that goes through the worldwide banking system. The routing numbers on the bottom of the checks from accounts your person has closed will never be reassigned. They are attached to your person's NAME forever and kept in the records of the Federal Reserve.
Bank accounts that are still open and active are used for cash items. Checks written on these open bank accounts can be taken to the particular bank and CASHED. This is the type of instrument used in commercial transactions everyday. There is a fund attached to the check from which the debt evidenced by the check can be paid.
Bank accounts that are no longer open and active cannot be used to process cash items. They can only be used to process non-cash items. They require special handling. Title 12 of USC and CFR explain how and when receiving banks are to process non-cash items. A closed bank account associated with your debtor's NAME, has routing numbers that can route your discharge instrument through the Federal Reserve to reduce the national debt to you and increase the balance of the bank account of the party that is charging your debtor. It is a WIN WIN situation.
The charging party is instructed to mail the discharge instrument to the Secretary of Transportation. Title 46 has sufficient evidence to support the proposition that the Secretary is the trustee over some or all vessels mortgaged by the United States. If your debtor PERSON is presumed to be a vessel, it is regulated by the Secretary of Transportation through the Maritime Ministries Administration that is the proper party to assist in processing your non-cash item. The Secretary of Transportation can forward the item to the Secretary of the Treasury, who already has been notified to prepare for non-cash activity in your treasury direct account on the Bill of Exchange. The Secretary of the Treasury is directly related to the Federal Reserve. Between the Treasury and the Federal Reserve, your non-cash item can be directed to the proper parties to settle the account and get everyone into that quid pro quo position we want.
The United States and its co-business partners are debtors to you. You are the creditor, not only over your debtor PERSON, but also over the United States, the legal titleholder over the registered things to which you are the equitable titleholder. You are the primary creditor, so if the United States has other creditors, like the international bankers, they cannot jump to the front of the line. Their claims are subordinated to your claims if your claims are registered and if you understand the law surrounding what you are doing.
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Tactical Farmer
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Hello again 
Ive been putting alot of time & effort info researching the Freeman / Sovereign / Non United States Citizen concept for the last 6 months.
In one of my adventures down this one rabbit hole I came across info on Expatriating (give up United States citizenship) & Repatriate as an American citizen.
There is a clear distinction between the two - some examples of American citizens would be Amish & Native Americans (Indians).
They are not subject(s) to the jurisdiction / codes / rules of the United States (corporation).
Was hoping to get this thread fired back up & see if anyone has heard of the expatriate / repatriate theory & how things are going with the UCC filing ?
Here is a good vid series on this my topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc40LLAb7nI&feature=related
Ive been putting alot of time & effort info researching the Freeman / Sovereign / Non United States Citizen concept for the last 6 months.
In one of my adventures down this one rabbit hole I came across info on Expatriating (give up United States citizenship) & Repatriate as an American citizen.
There is a clear distinction between the two - some examples of American citizens would be Amish & Native Americans (Indians).
They are not subject(s) to the jurisdiction / codes / rules of the United States (corporation).
Was hoping to get this thread fired back up & see if anyone has heard of the expatriate / repatriate theory & how things are going with the UCC filing ?
Here is a good vid series on this my topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc40LLAb7nI&feature=related
interesting read Tactical Farmer, thanks for sharing. i have to admit i will need to re read it, it's a bit hard to follow, but i guess the subject matter it's self is hard to comprehend.
ya i love this thread. i read alot at thinkfree.ca cause im in canada.
medicalgreen
Member
That sounds like a bunch of horseshit, sorry.
Sovereignty is not that complicated. I'm not saying I dont understand what your saying. I understand it completely. You are absolutely wrong about "what is sovereignty".
You are leading people into mass confusion, not freedom.
Before you post convoluted material, make sure you have some experience DOING IT!
Sovereignty is a real thing. It is a real tool. It is a real condition and state of being. If you have to jump through 150 hoops to be "sovereign", then how "sovereign" are you really?
Oh, i'm a sovereign, but I spelled something wrong, and I rely on the government's bankers to make me complete, and as soon as I do something wrong, I get into trouble. That's pretty free and sovereign, huh?
If you have to jump through a single government created hoop, then you are not sovereign, PERIOD.
The fact that you claim you have to do something "in a certain way" implies that if you don't do it correctly, then someone above you will get you into trouble. Does that make sense?
Btw, your talking to someone with over 10 years experience studying and practicing "sovereignty", so i'm no chump with an opinion, in this matter. I actually have something to contribute.
well then do so, we are all interested to learn more...instead of just saying he's wrong why not explain why and how and what do you do different to be sovereign?
medicalgreen
Member
gaiusmarius,
When I have two hours to sit down and do that, I will. I tried years ago, but the people were not ready for it. At least now, people are talking about it and interested. I've been learning since 1993.
When I have two hours to sit down and do that, I will. I tried years ago, but the people were not ready for it. At least now, people are talking about it and interested. I've been learning since 1993.
come on medicalgreen, we would all appreciate u taking the time to share. sounds like you would know quite a bit on the subject.
medicalgreen
Member
come on medicalgreen, we would all appreciate u taking the time to share. sounds like you would know quite a bit on the subject.
I could ramble on for hours....and hours...and hours....
Instead, maybe it would be better to propose a question, instead of for me to propose facts and opinions.
I will tell you this. You don't learn this from people who "talk about it". You learn about it from the masters of sovereignty, most of which are in jail or have been killed. That should tell you how "sovereign" they were, but at least they lived by the principal.
The most important teacher is/was Roger Elvick. Along with Hartford Van Dyke, Roger and Hartford are the cream of the crop.
The Freemen in Montana, Leroy Schweitzer and Dan Peterson.
Eustace Mullins.
John Van Hove (Johnny Liberty)
Richard McDonald
Right Way Law (Rick Shramm and Jack Smith)
Zeke Layman and the Power Politics Group
Those are the great teachers. Those are the people I have studied for years.
Sovereignty is an idea, not a political status. The United States is no longer a "sovereign" so sovereignty is a changing mutating idea, not a static politic status.
Ask away, I'll do my best to answer.
well i would love to know how to get started? are u really able to sign your name as legal payment for goods and services?
medicalgreen
Member
Theoretically, yes. The signature is what makes the payment. When you sign something, you are putting your credit to it. You are backing the document with your signature. The signature creates the funds.
That does not mean they have to accept it, but if they don't, you now have what is called a "dishonor", and the debt has technically been "paid".
medicalgreen
Member
There are many tenets of sovereignty that are true, yet the system has so brainwashed the masses, that getting a jury to side with you, can be a challenge. In reality, you should not have to go through the process at all. Without a contract or your voluntary will to go in, they cannot legally kidnap you and make you enter the courts. But they do, because they are criminals, and they know the public does not know the truth. Once the truth is out among enough people and they can no loner get convictions for freemen for non-injurious offenses, then they will have a hard time with it.
Back in the old days, you could not pay a bill with paper, only gold and silver, and if you tried, the people knew you were out to cheat someone and they would punish you with a conviction in court, now that's all they allow us to do.
It's because the people are stupid and need to be woken up.
Back in the old days, you could not pay a bill with paper, only gold and silver, and if you tried, the people knew you were out to cheat someone and they would punish you with a conviction in court, now that's all they allow us to do.
It's because the people are stupid and need to be woken up.
medicalgreen
Member
We are born free, not enslaved, and we owe no debt to anyone, but possibly our parents.
The government as it was formed in this country, was a real government, but in 1861, Lincoln suspended the Constitution, and the legislature was never reconvened under a legislative assembly. It died in 1861. In 1868, they reconstituted the government under Executive Order otherwise known as Martial Law. Martial Law was declared when the Constitution was suspended, but it was only temporary. But in 1868, at the end of the civil war, there was no longer a United States Government.
What replaced the United States government?
A Corporation, called "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA". Incorporated in the District of Columbia in 1871, it encompassed a mere 40 square miles, and had no jurisdiction outside the 40 square miles of Washington D.C. .
In the 1930's Social Security Act of 1935 I think it was, the use of Federal Reserve Notes since 1913, and the Buck Act of 1940 stretched the jurisdiction of this fictional corporate government into the lives of every person.
That's just the quick summary. The 13th Amendment was very important, the original one, not the superimposed one. The 14th Amendment as well. Both of these affected us.
Contract law or Merchant Law took precedence around the 1930's through Eerie Railroad vs Thompkins and another important case, changed law in the corporate courts. Courts became adjudicators of bankrupt corporate strawmen entities and no longer serve "we the people". But the truth is, they aren't supposed to. We are supposed to have our own courts, free of paid politicians. That's what the Freemen of Montana tried to help us understand, before the siege on the ranch in 1996.
The government as it was formed in this country, was a real government, but in 1861, Lincoln suspended the Constitution, and the legislature was never reconvened under a legislative assembly. It died in 1861. In 1868, they reconstituted the government under Executive Order otherwise known as Martial Law. Martial Law was declared when the Constitution was suspended, but it was only temporary. But in 1868, at the end of the civil war, there was no longer a United States Government.
What replaced the United States government?
A Corporation, called "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA". Incorporated in the District of Columbia in 1871, it encompassed a mere 40 square miles, and had no jurisdiction outside the 40 square miles of Washington D.C. .
In the 1930's Social Security Act of 1935 I think it was, the use of Federal Reserve Notes since 1913, and the Buck Act of 1940 stretched the jurisdiction of this fictional corporate government into the lives of every person.
That's just the quick summary. The 13th Amendment was very important, the original one, not the superimposed one. The 14th Amendment as well. Both of these affected us.
Contract law or Merchant Law took precedence around the 1930's through Eerie Railroad vs Thompkins and another important case, changed law in the corporate courts. Courts became adjudicators of bankrupt corporate strawmen entities and no longer serve "we the people". But the truth is, they aren't supposed to. We are supposed to have our own courts, free of paid politicians. That's what the Freemen of Montana tried to help us understand, before the siege on the ranch in 1996.
Tactical Farmer
Member
Chill dude - you out of smoke or what ?
Im just putting out some info & the UCC filing is "currently" the most powerful tested document in taking back rightful ownership of "property" through the system using the Freedom document method since as far as im aware it legally puts our "freeman side" 1st in line of the ownership.
When I say Freedom document method I mean having notarized documents like Affidavits, Declarations, Claims of Right, Notices, related superior court rulings, etc, to have at the ready when the "collectors" come to cause trouble.
Basically some powerful legal documents to have in your arsenal when police & judges refuse to accept your verbal claim.
I know there is a group of sovereigns that warn of using forms like the UCC-1 are a bad idea because why play under there rules on there court ? Who are they & what is this & where did I sign to have to play this game ?
The odds of a local cop pulling us over & letting us continue about our way when we have no license or photo ID, plates, registration, insurance, inspection after explaining we have the right to travel freely & they are out of there jurisdiction are not in our favor.
Same with the Judge aka. Commissioner but once some legal documents are entered into the record a smart / honorable official will hopefully back off fearing legal retaliation.
I see what your saying about freedom is all about our mindset, thats step 1 IMO.
Sadly though there are ALOT of open contracts / hidden liens that lock United States citizens & our property into this hidden slavery system via things like Birth Certificates & SSN, IRS filings, licenses, credit cards, etc.
Its seems while those "contacts" are in place you are locked into there jurisdiction in some form or another.
And it makes sense in a sick way - until your contract balance is zeroed you still have obligations within the society.
You can't eat even a crumb of there cake without having to wash the dishes
IMO its a long hard road ahead working our way out by canceling contracts by filing things like notices of rescission of signatures due to facts not being under full disclosure, learning how to be able to properly fight back in court by filing motions, moving the court to do things you want, filing counter suits, serving notice, etc, etc.
I respect your ideas in this matter medicalgreen as I only have 5% of the time involved in this subject compared to you.
Do you have / use any "documents" when the cops / tax collectors / judges come to collect your dues ?
Surely with 10 years you will have had some encounters with the LAW - whats your secret ?
I think we could all like to hear some motivational success stories in this twisted, evil system we find ourselves trapped in.
Peace Tac
Im just putting out some info & the UCC filing is "currently" the most powerful tested document in taking back rightful ownership of "property" through the system using the Freedom document method since as far as im aware it legally puts our "freeman side" 1st in line of the ownership.
When I say Freedom document method I mean having notarized documents like Affidavits, Declarations, Claims of Right, Notices, related superior court rulings, etc, to have at the ready when the "collectors" come to cause trouble.
Basically some powerful legal documents to have in your arsenal when police & judges refuse to accept your verbal claim.
I know there is a group of sovereigns that warn of using forms like the UCC-1 are a bad idea because why play under there rules on there court ? Who are they & what is this & where did I sign to have to play this game ?
The odds of a local cop pulling us over & letting us continue about our way when we have no license or photo ID, plates, registration, insurance, inspection after explaining we have the right to travel freely & they are out of there jurisdiction are not in our favor.
Same with the Judge aka. Commissioner but once some legal documents are entered into the record a smart / honorable official will hopefully back off fearing legal retaliation.
I see what your saying about freedom is all about our mindset, thats step 1 IMO.
Sadly though there are ALOT of open contracts / hidden liens that lock United States citizens & our property into this hidden slavery system via things like Birth Certificates & SSN, IRS filings, licenses, credit cards, etc.
Its seems while those "contacts" are in place you are locked into there jurisdiction in some form or another.
And it makes sense in a sick way - until your contract balance is zeroed you still have obligations within the society.
You can't eat even a crumb of there cake without having to wash the dishes
IMO its a long hard road ahead working our way out by canceling contracts by filing things like notices of rescission of signatures due to facts not being under full disclosure, learning how to be able to properly fight back in court by filing motions, moving the court to do things you want, filing counter suits, serving notice, etc, etc.
I respect your ideas in this matter medicalgreen as I only have 5% of the time involved in this subject compared to you.
Do you have / use any "documents" when the cops / tax collectors / judges come to collect your dues ?
Surely with 10 years you will have had some encounters with the LAW - whats your secret ?
I think we could all like to hear some motivational success stories in this twisted, evil system we find ourselves trapped in.
Peace Tac
Tactical Farmer
Member
From what I have seen on the net over the last 6 months there have easily been thousands of UCC-1 forms sent in & I have let to hear anything negative about this method - I can't back that with proof but many say its the secret hidden hole to escape.
Im brain jammed on the proper legal term but in with the LAW they have to leave you with some other option with some things like this because if they didn't they could be charged with treason & be killed. They don't have to tell you want it is but have to cover there ass just in case. They dont give a damn now but this was way back in the day when they had the people beat down & desperate for help.
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Just to clear this up for your bro as you have it backwards, the "strawman" is a term for what the government created with the birth certificate & SSN.
A more precise description of "strawman" would be corporate United States citizen or 13th amendment citizen or tax slave or US debt payer or Government Subject.
It can be visibility seen by your name in all capital letters on contacts like banking stuff, licenses, certificates, etc.
The strawman is not really you (the living being) the REAL MAN but your names sound identical.
Confused yet ? It was designed to be confusing thats why it has be working for them this long but the sleeping giant has awoke & smells the shit & is really pissed off.
