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Found my long lost seed collection

Katsu

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if im not mistaken, its the enzyme that wake up the embryo and start the whole process of growth, once water enters the shell.
Over the long storage time the shell has gotten really hard and this is where scuffing and soaking in a glass of water comes in handy..
Water has to enter the shell so the enzymes can begin to activate and feed the embryo. Possibly due to the long time, enzyme and food storages are hurt, so boosting with a enzyme supplement, using kelp (auxins and other growth hormones) and higher heat, you will speed up germination.
I propose you try this on a few you are not too fond of...
im positive you will see more pop than you thought

All of the above is already happening, my friend. scuffed beans soaked in warm water with kelp, enzyme supplement, and h202...

They're cracking, just veeeeery slowly...


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Morphote

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All of the above is already happening, my friend. scuffed beans soaked in warm water with kelp, enzyme supplement, and h202...

What enzyme supplement? How much h202? I've used seaweed/kelp, but never anything else. Thanks.

M.
 

bigbadbiddy

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I would also like to know :)

Have some SkunkxAfrican (I assume Durban, they are homemade) and some Pure Power Plant from Nirvana that are about 15 years old as well.
Weren't refrigerated either, just stored dark and dry.

Want to pop them some day and would really like avoiding the use of GA3 as well.
 

Katsu

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Enzyme - I just used rooting hormone. Threw in a teaspoon in about 1/2 gallon of water. Completely unscientific. Same with the h202 - put a couple caps of hydrogen peroxide into the water.
 

TnTLabs

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yo katsu,
problem with h2o2 or chlorine is once you killed all germs & bacteria you will either have to keep adding it or start adding bennies shortly after
id leave the h2o2 or chlorine and start by adding a enzyme product like cannazyme...
It has partially the same enzymes as the ones in the seed, amylasse, lipase, pektinase & co
so you cant go wrong with boosting those at germination..

it just comes to mind that with h2o2 you might even be hindering the whole process, as it will kill all activity outside and inside the seed once it cracks..

the only use for h2o2 in germanination i see, is as a quick rinse off, cleaning before scuffing, then the soaking in water to start the whole normal process

rant over
 

HungAsAFruitbat

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So back on page 9 Katsu asked...

Somewhere in my bean collection is a RoadKill Skunk pheno, that's what I'm looking for. Any suggestions where to start?

And then everyone seemed to be to busy yelling Vietnam Black to answer him lol.

Katsu, are you trolling the romantics like myself who still search for that most malodorous of pole cat phenos? Or are you really looking for an answer? I'm of no help, that list is too long and too classic for me to get through without some serious jealousy, but I'm very interested in seeing the puzzle solved.

Cheers,

Hunglikeafruitbat. (this site has a 15 character handle limit. Hence the sad, rehashed, version of my moniker at the top of my post.)
 
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Dr.Suess

Somewhere in my bean collection is a RoadKill Skunk pheno, that's what I'm looking for. Any suggestions where to start?

Hello, high Katsu

I would start with Romulan.... Road kill & candy apparently

All the best:tiphat:
 

HungAsAFruitbat

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Hello, high Katsu

I would start with Romulan.... Road kill & candy apparently

All the best:tiphat:

Wait! What!? No rhyming, no timing, no silliness, no joke? No weird words likes snoozumps, picklewamp or dwoozle in the words you just spoke? Myself I am wondering, along with the Floozalamps too, dear God! Dr. Guess, what happened to you? You depressed brah?

Cheers,

Hunglikeafruitbat. :tiphat:
 

Katsu

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Update - 1 slow growing sprout, but looks healthy. 1 dead tadpole. Lots of beans haven't cracked. I picked 2 randomly and used my gorilla fingers to apply pressure along the seam and split? (destroy?) because I was too impatient to wait for the hemostats I ordered. The beans have been moist, warm, and show no signs of mold so I don't think I've done anything too detrimental, yet. If the hemostats don't work, I'm going to try the recommended dose of the gibberellic acid on the next test batch. Don't worry, I'm not going to kill anything too valuable, yet :)
 
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Just found this thread, amazing! Belated welcome back, and congrats on your collection. You got some real blast from the past in there, definitely check out those orange crush and sag blueberry and those haze/sk f2s!
 

Katsu

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Out of the first test, only a few germinated and 1 actually survived. I have a lone Oxygen 19 x Bubba Kush sloowly growing. Next test is using a modest amount of gibberellic acid (100 ppm). They've been in towels for about 5 days - no signs of life, yet.

I sent out the Indigo Blue F2's, the Indigo Blue x Amazon Indica, STL, Shishkaberry F2's, Ghost OG x Sour Diesel, and the Malawi x White Russian to a friend for repro. If he has luck with the germination, there should be a bunch of f2s and 3s.
 

superglue

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hey there katsu
wtf?-over from cw here
no help with growing old beans though
regarding skunky stuff...talk to dman about some of those black spice..they were skunkier than pepe lapew
i agree the metal haze were subpar
jojo's blowfish only germed 1 plant a few years ago(was a nice gal)
i got 11 of fets viet blacks in the greenhouse now
2 so far are male but i'll have to drag them inside soon as it is getting colder here so they can finish up
the blackberry widow stuff is subpar(did the test run thing for jojo)

anyhow, good to see you back in the game

fwiw
 

Katsu

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hey there katsu
wtf?-over from cw here
no help with growing old beans though
regarding skunky stuff...talk to dman about some of those black spice..they were skunkier than pepe lapew
i agree the metal haze were subpar
jojo's blowfish only germed 1 plant a few years ago(was a nice gal)
i got 11 of fets viet blacks in the greenhouse now
2 so far are male but i'll have to drag them inside soon as it is getting colder here so they can finish up
the blackberry widow stuff is subpar(did the test run thing for jojo)

anyhow, good to see you back in the game

fwiw

Good to see you SG. Have you tried the VB, yet?
 

superglue

Member
ok so 3 are male
and no, i haven't tried the vb yet
i noticed them in the freezer last winter and thought i'd hate to lose them to old age so it was a priority to open pollinate them for some seed stock down the road. figured if i lost half of them to the freezer i would be doing good but they all popped.
at the rate they are going..probably be next year before they are ready

fwiw
 
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