Flush and starve plants during flowering??

[Raziel819]

Thanks ThaiBliss,

I can see now how the two compare. The pic I posted is not yet even in the time frame of the "to early" pic that you posted.

 

[fulltimehuman]

back when the containers came in to LA in the 70's there were a bunch of dudes working down there...so we would get stuff like this all the time.Not my photos but you know that puckery squinty sour-in-your-face Thai style squashed into a patty. Sometimes we would get the 'buddha' teardrop shaped chocolate golden delights that made me feel like I was frying on acid...good acid! Also columbian and who knows what else. Some of those old columbians were quite like a golden thai.I love hearing all these cool stories......

 

[ThaiBliss]

... you know that puckery squinty sour-in-your-face Thai style...

Funny... I call it ThaiBliss.

 

[EclipseFour20]

Fulltime, that would be a perfectly manicured bud...circa 1980. Yep...compressed complete with stem, but that red thread is peculiar--most "sticks" produced by "the family" were wound with hemp fiber and were on a stick. I recall the "red thread" thai sticks were good, but not the best (less resin, drier and lighter in color).

The Thai Stick bricks I got looked sort of like this--

Buds wound with hemp fiber the length of a stick--if the stick was showing--then someone "pinched it". Then wrapped in bundles with 10-12 sticks tied together with more hemp fiber. The diameter of fresh sticks were about the size of your baby finger...that weed was most aromatic and had a very distinctive odor that was unique to the "sticks".

Sticks that looked like this were "bogus" and probably sold by those that peddled "bootleg quaaludes". Ahh the days when 714s were the rage...lol.

 

[stihgnobevoli]

@ Doc, you know, lol, I fought the urge to chop a shoot with a nice size bud just the other day. The internal reasoning that won was... its to early, it won't be a accurate test give it to at least week 6, ask someone that's been there (more successful grows than me) about her development. Well I had 2 of the 3 points met and I just needed to ask someone about that 3rd point.

it's never gonna be done before week 8. Ever. all these 8 weeks guys chopping at day 63 are chopping and smoking and selling early ass buds, and thats why people like me hate kush, and the hype machine fueling it, because its turning out early ass weak buds that these moronic kids think are "fire!" you want fire. take it to day 80-90-120. you'll have a sudden rush of kids in emergency rooms "Overdosed" on weed.

everywhere you turn got kids laying around talking bout how high they are on 63 day old buds. like...you gotta be shittin me...how are you that fucked up on a 30 minute head rush?

 

[fulltimehuman]

Fulltime, that would be a perfectly manicured bud...circa 1980. Yep...compressed complete with stem, but that red thread is peculiar--most "sticks" produced by "the family" were wound with hemp fiber and were on a stick. I recall the "red thread" thai sticks were good, but not the best (less resin, drier and lighter in color).

The Thai Stick bricks I got looked sort of like this--
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Buds wound with hemp fiber the length of a stick--if the stick was showing--then someone "pinched it". Then wrapped in bundles with 10-12 sticks tied together with more hemp fiber. The diameter of fresh sticks were about the size of your baby finger...that weed was most aromatic and had a very distinctive odor that was unique to the "sticks".

Sticks that looked like this were "bogus" and probably sold by those that peddled "bootleg quaaludes". Ahh the days when 714s were the rage...lol.
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Those look tasty. That wasn't my pic as I said but I remember some red thread, black thin thread and the natural color thread. But heck some could have been faux versions. Also there were some columbians etc.-not sure of origins of course- That had a more golden lighter on the lip taste and effect. Man, unlock those memories. Like forgetting to remember where I put my 200.00 diving watch after a 714.

 

[mr. gt]

while on the topic of thai sticks, I started a thread about this guy Afgoo_head who makes his own 'new age' thai sticks.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=295681

sorry to go off topic.




back on topic...

I'm in my young 20's myself. I feel I missed out on a lot and wish I could smoke the good ole sativa's. Hence why I try to hoard some sativa strains like tom's haze or mr. nice mango. This frankies incense haze is what I wish I got my hands on..

~mr. gt

 

[Riddleme]

Yet another example of boiling to fade, C99 was boiled a few days ago, fade begun right away. What most spend 10 to 14 days doing, I do in 3 to 4

 

[HerBnGorE(illa)]

Riddle me. I'm curious about this boiling technique you are using. After seeing u reference it I tried researching on it but can't find much info (other than the skeptics). If you could go into detail a bit about your approach it would be greatly appreciated. Do u taper off nutes before or is it full strength then boil then chop 3-4 days later? Also have you done this with soil and hydro/coco etc. Also curious if you use a dark period with the technique or just leave them in the growroom under lights after the boil.

I have a couple "twins" that are quickly approaching chop time. Think I'm gonna give it a try on one of them and see for myself. Thanks

 

[vapor]

timed nutrients for the whole plants life, week 6 started to fade pics at day 45 over the next 3-4weeks they will yellow hard, have a nice white ash, and be o so sweet...

 

[Riddleme]

Riddle me. I'm curious about this boiling technique you are using. After seeing u reference it I tried researching on it but can't find much info (other than the skeptics). If you could go into detail a bit about your approach it would be greatly appreciated. Do u taper off nutes before or is it full strength then boil then chop 3-4 days later? Also have you done this with soil and hydro/coco etc. Also curious if you use a dark period with the technique or just leave them in the growroom under lights after the boil.

I have a couple "twins" that are quickly approaching chop time. Think I'm gonna give it a try on one of them and see for myself. Thanks

I feed till the end, when done/ready for harvest I simply water em with boiling water and then wait 3~4 days till they fade and start to wilt. They have a look, if you do it you'll see it.

Then chop em, dry em and jar em, I've been doin it for years.

I have been told it is a bitch in hydro but I know growers that do it

 

[FullyMeltedDome]

Wow,��.I've seen a bunch of bad info at the beginning of this Thread,and all through it.People are going to do what they want no matter what.If they think what they're doing is how they like it then go for it.The whole thing about feeding right up to chop and having plants all green and the same colors as in Veg is weird..Yellowing at the end of their life cycle is the norm for MJ,but those who don't think so,have at it.The whole boiling thing is weird also.By doing that and then the plant starts to yellow doesn't mean it's flushed,it just means your killing it and it will turn yellow.I like My Leave's to start yellowing at the end,to me that is a sign that its slowly using the nutes (Ve-Ganic Matter)that are in the roots,leaves and soil,which in turn makes for a smoother better tasting Med. I Do it the way I've always done it and won't change,and that's probably the way the people who leave nutes in there final product feel,lol.Giving large or what have you doses of Nitrogen to your plant right up to Harvest is crazy,imo..To each his own,but it's not the best advice to give someone just starting out.I remember hearing things along time ago about hanging plants upside down over a garbage bag because resin will drip down onto the plastic,lol.But Is what it is and people who think what there doing is best Will stick with it to the end and if they like there Meds to have residual nutes in the finished bud,have fun.Peace and Stay Safe,DancesWithWeed ����

 

[FullyMeltedDome]

I Want my plants to look like this SourBubble at Harvest.But that's just my opinion.Peace and Stay Safe,DancesWithWeed

 

[Riddleme]

Wow,lmao..I've seen a bunch of bad info at the beginning of this Thread,and all through it.People are going to do what they want no matter what.If they think what they're doing is how they like it then go for it.The whole thing about feeding right up to chop and having plants all green and the same colors as in Veg is nuts.But if the "grower"thinks his Bud is the best grown that way,then have at it.I would never do something �� crazy like that.Yellowing at the end of their life cycle is the norm for MJ,but those who don't think so,have at it ,lol.The whole boiling thing is weird also.By doing that and then the plant starts to yellow doesn't mean it's flushed,it just means your killing it and it will turn yellow.I love my bud to start yellowing at the end,to me that is a sign that its slowly using the nutes that are in the roots,leaves and soil,which in turn makes for a smoother better tasting Med. I Do it the way I've always done it and won't change,and that's probably the way the people who leave nutes in there final product feel,lol.Giving large or what have you doses of Nitrogen to your plant right up to Harvest is crazy,imp.To each his own,but it's not the best advice to give someone just starting out.I remember hearing things along time ago about hanging plants upside down over a garbage bag because resin will drip down onto the plastic,lol.People used to think the world was flat and you could sail over the edge,lol.But they ended up learning that was stupid and incorrect.Is what it is and people who think what there doing is best Will stick with it to the end and if they like there Meds to have residual nutes in the finished bud,have fun.Peace and Stay Safe,DancesWithWeed ����

This don't look like it's fadin to you ???

Still very much alive (boiling didn't kill it right away) Still growin foxtails pullin from the leaves. I do what I do because I understand the science not because I'm crazy lol

like I said everyone I know that has tried it keeps doin it

 

[vapor]

no not at all close...more like this... what you posted would still be to green for my preference, dial your nutrients so the plant does max senescence on its own. nice white ash is the goal in a thin paper....
ps look like some powdery mildew on your plants....

 

[Riddleme]

no not at all close...more like this... what you posted would still be to green for my preference, dial your nutrients so the plant does it on its own. nice white ash is the goal in a thin paper....

lol, it did that in 2 days, it's not done yet

and I'm not here tellin folks they must, I have always said to each his own, lots of ways to skin cats and grow plants

 

[vapor]

so another day? did you say 3 days? I am not telling you to do anything i am showing you what works for me, and what a clean burning{white ash in thin paper} plant looks like for me when ready.. And boiling water in my roots seems not very natural. That powdery mildew is sure a issue ......

 

[Riddleme]

so another day? did you say 3 days? I am not telling you to do anything i am showing you what works for me, and what a clean burning{white ash in thin paper} plant looks like for me when ready.. And boiling water in my roots seems not very natural. That powdery mildew is sure a issue ......

And I say always do what works for ya !!!!

3 or 4 days usually sometimes 5, I go by how they look

 

[FullyMeltedDome]

Your right,people do what they think works best for them.But I don't think that boiling roots in anyway has a benefit to flushing nutes from the plant itself.I can pour acetone in my soil and the plant will turn all kindsa yellow but it won't be flushed of nutrients,since doing what we all do for a long time,that's the first time I've ever heard of boiling a plant unless it was for tea,but seeing how I've never tried it and that you like it that's all its about,that the person growing it likes it that way.Peace and Stay Safe,DancesWithWeed ����

 

[sourpuss]

vapor.... nice pic bro!! always a gentleman...