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Tropical

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You are far enough south that your clones will start to bloom as soon as you put them outside if it's an early strain. That includes most indicas and the early sativas.

Indoor growers induce blooming by setting the timers on their lights to 12/12, so many people think that anything more than 12 hours of daylight per day will cause the plants to reveg. That's not true for all, or even most, strains. Almost all strains will veg with 18 hours of daylight per day, and flower when that falls to 12 hours, but that doesn't say anything for what happens at day lengths in between.

One time, in a stoner moment, I accidentally set the timer for my veg lights to 16/8 instead of 18/6. All four of my Sweet Tooth #4 seed plants started to flower. So, we know that at least that strain can flower when the days are 16 hours long.

In fact, many of our outdoor strains are bred to finish by early October when the fall rains start to cause mold in plants in Amsterdam and Vancouver. So, count backwards eight weeks and you know that those plants had to start blooming by the middle of August. I checked the almanac for the sunrise and sunset times in those cities in mid August. They have more than 14 hours of daylight. I checked the almanac for the sunrise and sunset times in Miami and found out that we never get that much daylight here, even on the longest day of the year. So, all those strains that finish in early October in those places will always bloom whenever you put them outside in Miami.

Of course, I'm talking about plants that are already sexually mature. That takes about a couple months from seed, but remember that the clones take the mothers age, so clones will be mature from day one. Also, it's actually the length of the night that is critical, not the length of the day, but that distinction is meaningless in nature because the longer day is always associated with the shorter night, and visa versa . It's only indoors that we can have the day length plus night length add up to something other than 24.



Even if you started seed plants now, by the time you have 50 rooted clones it will be at least May and probably later. Go with a sativa for the mold resistance. A strain like TFD Early Durban can bloom all year long down here.

I like sativas to party, but I use indicas for insomnia and muscle spasms (I have a bad back). So, I grow those in the dry season. I hope this helps.
 

Tropical

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mysticls said:
ive got my eye on some sour diesel

if i got a pack of 10 sour diesel and had them planted by end of feb.. when would they start to flower?...

They would stay in veg at least until they mature. That takes a couple months, so puberty would be around May. I don't know how short the day has to be to induce bloom in that particular strain. It's a sativa, so it might stay in veg until September or even October, but I'm not familiar with it so I can't say.

i know with indoors you can take clones like 3 weeks into flowering.. would this still be the case outdoors??

Yeah, the longer you wait in that stage, the harder it is. I've never tried to take clones during the flowering period.
 
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surfNtoke

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yeah it mihgt flower and might not... june is more of a for sure that it wont... if it matures like trop says in may.. it could flower, ive had a few flower that late, its all dependant on the strain like he says.you could just have them set somewhere near your home and maybe leave them where they will get some light from a security light or something of that nature... good luck
 

mysticls

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i picked up some FMS grapefruit to germ at end of this month.. throw them outside middle of march.. anyone see any problems with this?? when do you think they will be ready? i am itching to pickup another strain.. what else should i get?? they will be germ and outside by middle of march
 

Tropical

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I'm not familiar with that strain. It could finish in early summer or late fall or in between.

I like to get my plants a little bit bigger before I put them outside. When they are that small, they can easily be eaten by a lizard, grasshopper, or other small pest. When I veg plants under my 250watt MH lamp until they are at least 9", they survive much better.

If you really can't start them indoors under HID, then I would suggest picking up an ounce or two of regs. That should give you hundreds of seeds, so you can afford to lose 90% of your seedlings. As long as you kill the males to create sin semilla and properly dry and cure the buds, bag seed will still produce killer buds.

Our climate is great for growing the tropical sativas that gets imported as brick weed from Mexico, Columbia, and Jamaica. This stuff would never finish outdoors up north, nor is it suited for indoor cultivation. That's why most people have to buy seeds from breeders.
 

mysticls

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ya all the shit around here is mids it blows

i dont want to risk my life/security on bagseed

i can veg under my 250 hps but i dont have any more room in that box...

instead i can germ the seeds, place in small cups... take them outside every morning and bring them in every evening..i can store them over night in a room that has a dim light in it so they don't switch to flower.. conitnue this until they are 9-10 than i can transport them to my outdoor spot where they will be permantely transplanted this work out fine?
 
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Farmer Joe

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Trichomes are commin' along nicely on my outdoor plant.



The clones are doing great in their bad for roots clear plastic cups. Vegging under a 150hps. I'll probably move them under a large socket 100 watt 6500k CFL. I plan to keep them and plant them outside during the summer so I have a nice winter crop.
 
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Whats up my fellow floridians, Orlando reporting in :wave: This is great, a Florida growers thread, good going! Got 9 whitewidow 4 days into flowering, so far so good.
Theirs a few hydro shop near by, 6100 hanging moss rd, orlando, 5561 s. orange blossom trail, orlando and 1420 e. altamonte drive, altamone springs. they're called Sunshine hydroponics. Alittle pricey but Very conveneint. No, Im not affilated with them in any way, just thought id give me some props, we all need to support our local hydro shops 'cause it sucks when mail order is your only option.
anyway, good to see so many tokers from the sunshine state, lets band together and grow some wicked dank buds!! 420 Everybody!!!! :friends:

 

Cannapits

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evlme2 said:
Whats up my fellow floridians, Orlando reporting in :wave: This is great, a Florida growers thread, good going! Got 9 whitewidow 4 days into flowering, so far so good.
Theirs a few hydro shop near by, 6100 hanging moss rd, orlando, 5561 s. orange blossom trail, orlando and 1420 e. altamonte drive, altamone springs. they're called Sunshine hydroponics. Alittle pricey but Very conveneint. No, Im not affilated with them in any way, just thought id give me some props, we all need to support our local hydro shops 'cause it sucks when mail order is your only option.
anyway, good to see so many tokers from the sunshine state, lets band together and grow some wicked dank buds!! 420 Everybody!!!! :friends:


did they move the last location?..was in Longwood 434/17-92 area...they are pricey..remember hydro convention in O-town in Nov...a must do..I still have free nutes from 2 yrs ago...see ya there.
 

Tropical

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Grow Upate:

Here is an update on my little girl in a five quart container. I'll upcan her to five gallons in about a week or two and then put her outside a week or two after that.

This first photo was taken using the MH lamp as the light source.
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This second photo is the same plant but I used the camera's flash as the light source.
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Farmer Joe

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Here are pics for my ~10 day updates. Took some with and without flash. All-in-all, its been flowering for around 30 days and coming a long nicely. The only care I've done for it is add a few more organic ferts to the soil and water with a very weak mixture of Tiger Bloom. Might try and increase the dosage of Tiger Bloom soon. ~35 more days to go! :lurk:

Full sized pics, go here:
http://boards.cannabis.com/outdoor-growing/99812-2nd-outdoor-grow.html










 
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Cannapits, i remmeber the shop on 434 but dont for the life of me remember what happened to it. Theyre all pricey but man are the convenient to have around!! Just went there today to stock up on a few essentials :).
 

Tropical

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Very nice, Farmer Joe. Thanks for the update. I have a girl that I put out in my friend's backyard to flower. I'll ask him to snap a photo so I can post it here too.
 

Cannapits

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evlme2 said:
Cannapits, i remmeber the shop on 434 but dont for the life of me remember what happened to it. Theyre all pricey but man are the convenient to have around!! Just went there today to stock up on a few essentials :).

I hear ya...was there 6 months ago....stoped by when I was passing through town...used to live 3 blocks away from store when I didnt grow...go figure

Edited:Found out the Hydro convention is in Orlando Nov 10-11.....the 11th is open to public with a 5 dollar donation...the 10th is for industry only....see ya there...
 
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Burnatree

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backyard growing question

backyard growing question

i was wondering living in south florida are there any plants that you can add to your garden to hide your herb plants while growing outdoors
 

Tropical

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Burnatree said:
i was wondering living in south florida are there any plants that you can add to your garden to hide your herb plants while growing outdoors

Sure, any plants you add to your garden will help hide the Cannabis, especially in veg. You have to walk up very close to the plant to determine what it is. If you have enough plants around it, nobody will walk up to each one and inspect them all.

Once in bloom though, it will stink depending on how much you have and how stinky your strain is. Northern Lights is a good low odor indica. Cali-O and Haze are good low odor sativas. I'm going by reputation. I haven't grown them myself. Well, I did grow a Haze dominant pheno of Mothers Finest. It was in a closet with a few other strains, odor neutralizers, lots of ventilation, and I don't really remember the odor level anyway.
 
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