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Florida Growers Thread; Reloaded

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Do they hit you with the year for refusing like a typical stop?

No, and allow me to explain why. You have 4th amendment rights. This prevents illegal search and seizure. When you are stopped at a regular traffic stop and it reaches the point of blowing for a DUI or taking their ridiculous field test you couldn't pass sober, they have already detained you with probable cause (smelling alcohol, swerving out of your lane, lights off at night, etc). You sign a waiver agreeing to take those tests when detained and operating a motor vehicle. So there in lies the magical term, probable cause.

When you stop at a checkpoint, these are without probable cause. They are simply points for them to gain probable cause. How do you give them probable cause? Talk to them. Not talking or refusing to answer questions is not legal justification for probable cause.

What you want to do at a DUI checkpoint is not answer any questions and ask if you're free to go. They won't say yes right away. Whenever they give you an order, ask if you're being detained and/or if that's an order. If it is an order, regardless of what it is, I advise you follow it or they will try to say you were resisting or failure to comply with an officer's orders.

Any time a cop ASKS you something (permission to inspect vehicle, "do me a favor and pull over there", etc) he doesn't have the right to do it, he's seeking your permission. He's seeking that you give up your constitutional rights and make his job easier to nail you for something, that's it. If a cop has the right to do something, they don't ask you, they order you, or they do it for you, like place you in handcuffs / their car. They don't ask you to get in their car, they put your ass in there because they already have the right to.

God bless America. Where only the educated are truly free. STAY SAFE EVERYONE! :)

There's some really amazing videos on youtube, just check "DUI refusal" or "Checkpoint refusal" and you'll see what I mean. It takes balls, but it's your constitutional protected rights that you should never give up. It's why we're a "free" country. I have personally done it before, never had an issue. Just be courteous and don't answer any questions at all. Don't answer where you were, where you're going, are you a citizen, etc. In Florida, you DO have to present ID when asked by an office, that's a law, but that's it. That is literally the only thing you HAVE to do to cooperate with a police office voluntarily.
 

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i thought that by having a valid fl drivers license you were required to do any field sobriety test during a valid stop?

Edit: checked my D/L and it is clearly stated at the bottom that you are required to do All sobriety test

dont trust utube law advice or jail house law advice


peace
 
i thought that by having a valid fl drivers license you were required to do any field sobriety test during a valid stop?

Edit: checked my D/L and it is clearly stated at the bottom that you are required to do All sobriety test

dont trust utube law advice or jail house law advice


peace

You still can refuse to take the test per Fla statue
[SIZE=-1]316.1932 Tests for alcohol, chemical substances, or controlled substances; implied consent; refusal.—


both section a and b, say this, but only langue change is that a, is breath test, and b, are other test.

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[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]The person shall be told that his or her failure to submit to any lawful test of his or her urine will result in the suspension of the person’s privilege to operate a motor vehicle for a period of 1 year for the first refusal, or for a period of 18 months if the driving privilege of such person has been previously suspended as a result of a refusal to submit to such a test or tests, and shall also be told that if he or she refuses to submit to a lawful test of his or her urine and his or her driving privilege has been previously suspended for a prior refusal to submit to a lawful test of his or her breath, urine, or blood, he or she commits a misdemeanor in addition to any other penalties. The refusal to submit to a urine test upon the request of a law enforcement officer as provided in this section is admissible into evidence in any criminal proceeding.


But better yet, just dont drink and drive, or find a non drinking person to drive (like me), or call a cab.
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Yea i have a friend with 4 refusals for blowing, never at check point though. I know its automatic for refusal with dl suspended but you dont "technically" get dui charge. i think the last time was like 18months till he got it back.

I understand the rest of dont talk / dont search etc just wasnt sure on the sobriety. Last one i refused search wasnt very happy, fuckin prick.

I dont drink anymore and its rare day if i have something in the car. I think my last car was smoked in twice.
 

Catatafish

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dont trust utube law advice or jail house law advice


peace


Funny thing is i think i picked up most of my law knowledge in classes i had take on probation as a kid. Dude pretty much teaches the law and how not to get in trouble. Was probably one of the better "classes" i had growing up. Not sure if they do that here in FL though
 
Hey all, I am still here, and still living up to my name. My goal is for 2016 is to try and post a little more. I been having my ups and downs, and thinking about going to soil with blue drips. I am still in coco, but I am stuck, as I dont see as motivated to do grow any more, but would like to and try to earn a few extra dollars. I have a few things i need to pheno, some i dont have many to chose from as i got some shitty seed germ rates and my cloning has been sucking also.

But here is small list that I am going to pheno out to see what i want to group.
Peyote Purple (was able to get 2 ((regs)) out of 10, a bunch damped off)
Cindy 99 BX1 (4 seeds, that i am waiting to sex right now)
Pure Kush (3 fems, 100% hindu kush from ossc)
Ice Bomb by Bomb Seeds (4 fems)
Pineapple Express 2 (5 fems)

I also found my keep from a blue chese that I already pheno.
I have 1 plant of of the following, OG la Affie, Critcal Sensi Star, and trainagle trip

So fingers cross that I get a little more serious in the new year.
 

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Hope everyone made it out of 2015 safe and sound! Welcome 2016!

I agree with Morcheeba and ALG, the best advise, just don't do it. You can refuse all you want but if they find a pipe or a green leafy substance... automatic DUI. no lawyer can argue that you weren't HIGH.

on a good note... I have 6/6 Amnesia x Triangle Trip above ground and they are looking healthy. I'm loving this weather.
 

Catatafish

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You used to be able to refuse the field tests. I was taught that you want a blood test. Purely for the fact it wasted time allowing more to disipate.

When your already fucked....
 

McKush

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I was trying to avoid embarrassment by not saying anything but, I lost those cuts.

My cousin and I are grow buddies... not partners. Long story short, he stole those cuts from me... so I got in my truck and striped up his front yard... I mean I did donut after donut in his front lawn... fuk'd it up good... pretty funny actually but, it didn't solve anything.

sorry if I let anyone down.

Hi coba, im not at all making fun of you or your issue with your cuz. But your post nearly made me spew my coffee laughing.

Hehe were you expecting cuz to immediately see the error of his ways during the third or fourth circular rut you are layng down on his soisa, left arm and head stuck out the window looking back appreciatively admiring your handiwork with a big shit eating grin on your face? Lol. Didnt solve anything! You funny, you funny

In my experience a proper yard job is usually the beginning of where things started to go bad, not the point where everyone laughs hugs makes ammends, all join hands and then break out in spontaneous I want to buy the world a coke song...:huggg::huggg:

Keep it real bruddah

Peace
 
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Coba

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Cat, that Cat threw down the WOBBLE...

McK dude, I felt guilty as hell for about an hour or so... but, I'm over it now.



Boy must have had a change of heart. I got back WFA#6, TT#1, and the Glue.
 
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P-NUT

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Man I sure hope those wfa6xtt seeds pop. Idk why they wouldnt. I will put some in the dirt soon and see how I do.
Coba that shits funny as hell. Ive been known to do my fair share of lawn jobs when I was younger. A dickhead left me in amsterdam when I was 21 and flew home early cuz he was spoiled pillhead bitch. I only went cuz he said he would pay for the room for a week and it was a super nice hotel. He left on day 3 and I had to fend for myself. Lucky my mom sent me w her credit card or I woulda slept on the streets or squatted somewhere. When I got home I got my jeep burried to the frame is his front yard lol. I was stuck for 2 hrs in his front yard and nobody had the balls to come outside.
 

bucketswithsoil

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Cat, that Cat threw down the WOBBLE...

McK dude, I felt guilty as hell for about an hour or so... but, I'm over it now.



Boy must have had a change of heart. I got back WFA#6, TT#1, and the Glue.

damn dude,thats awesome to hear for sure...

I have 3 out of 4 of the Amnesia x TT above ground so far. None of the WFA#6 x TT have cracked so far though.

dont feel to bad,tried 3 of those and not a one.cracked...just will have to try the others i guess :biggrin:
 
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