Florida Growers Thread; Reloaded

[Catatafish]

Ive seen it done water only like you stated on the promix

Or

taper down to real low ec solution (.2-.4) as to not throw off the coco cec, i guess this would be good for re-using coco.

Still playing around myself. I have done water only before, this run i have been tapering down on a few, not quite done yet though to tell you the difference.

Maybe Asslover will chime in? Im guessing he has probably done all methods and can tell the ins and outs of each.

 

[bugman52]

Anyone have time for a quick question on this extra nice Saturday morning! About to load the bike up and head to the lake for awhile.

Finishing up my first run with coir.......and when I run my Glue in Pro-Mix I did nothing but Ph'd water the last 14 days......PERFECT as far as taste and color.

Should I do the same???? I am 15 days out as of today

I lower my nutrence over the last 2 weeks in coco.
i have flushed my coco with just water ,it fade to quick for my likeing.
when i was in promix ide just water the last week.

 

[stihgnobevoli]

whenever i've grown i always use just plain water last two weeks. any medium, even hydro. my tap is .4 ec i wish it was lower but whatevs. the drying is the next important part.

 

[gh0st9]

I have to use ro.. tap water is disgusting here, see regular spikes up .7 at my current house. last big spot i grew in had a tap coming out at .8-.9 ec easy.. Unless your water has a charge to it, you must flush with water with some kind of charge and pH'ed, you can ruin your coco's CEC especially if you plan on reusing... I usually taper down starting week 7 by .2 ec every rez change. smaller rezs so I go through that process pretty quick usually right at .2 by end of week 9, great fade and look, never personally was dogmatic with flushing, IMO if you're on top of your shit flushing is cool but not necessary had shit unflushed back in the day before IC that was great taste, looks ash etc the old hippies didn't flush afaik but I do bc it does help maximize everything and its easier on your wallet so why not?.. I also use a bit of dripclean since I have huge amts left over but not needed at all. I reuse my coco, no enzymes, pull rootball, rudimentary lookover/pulling(separating large root clumps and hydroton), let it dry out a bit sitting out bout 2-4 days, quick tumble/sift, and mix in with new coco&hydroton at 4:1:2 ratio. Probably leave a good 25-50% of the old roots in there, never had a problem

 

[gh0st9]

YUK
Get feeling better soon Cat! Lot's of the crud going around it seems.

i went to a friends house ,i took 3 big faties with me , i got stuck over there for over 1/2 day .
I HAD to smoke a bounch of brick weed, atleast they had 3 diffrent kinds,2 wernt to bad.
now i remember why i grow my own.

I'm surprised brick weed is still in abundance here in Fl.. GA or Al i wouldnt be surprised since its alot more ho hum there, but Fl got a huge number dudes pumping stuff out one of the largest instate local networks.. we're up there for indoor with some of the med states. Not to mention all the younger bucks going with imported B-grade "medical" weed should've have flushed out whatever advantage, brick weed has here, competitive enough in price and supply, a step up from the brown death in quality, now if only there wasn't such a "craze" right now... I feel like in general the end consumers out here are getting fucked hard..

 

[stihgnobevoli]

i like bricks. it's the only way to get sativa's if i didn't grow em. everyone's always trying to sell me the latest kush of some sort or something purple. i'm all like idgaf. gimme some of that bricked up outdro.

 

[unregistered190]

Fire Alien Romulan from OG Raskal

 

[gh0st9]

@stihg
Hey man, as long as it smokes good I'll take it.. shit has some character lol, the newest kushes and purples has been the thing for the past 10 yrs at least, every up and coming kid is always offering "OG" "GDP" etc.. my whole point being that since 2012 the shift in CO and CA in prices (documented in the cali price thread, translates to local markets quite well) reflects that all the shitty outdoor not competitive enough out there gets sent here, the youngin's flooded the market both in quantity of dealers and the amount they pushed, 5 years ago, there was brick, mids, and locally sourced "flame" or imported "flame" but most I've seen were A quality, now it seems that shitty C+ to B- kushes/purps gets pushed hard for cheaper, effectively marginalizing both ends, the brick and the truly top grade. It's easier to find "high grade" pot, but how much of it is really high grade? much harder to sort through shit nowadays, glad I don't have to buy hahaha

oh btw just read your name backwards... I must be a tard to the nth degree for being here for 8 years and never realizing what it meant

@unreg Looks like some straight killer stuff man, great job!

 

[bugman52]

i like bricks. it's the only way to get sativa's if i didn't grow em. everyone's always trying to sell me the latest kush of some sort or something purple. i'm all like idgaf. gimme some of that bricked up outdro.

most of the brick weed i see here is a hybird sat/ind .
but once in a while i see nice sat. batch

 

[Catatafish]

Im wondering how that FAR smokes 190. Looks like it will be lethal.

I havent seen the bricks in probably 10yrs.... but i havent looked for em either.

Now that c grade domestic imports ..... thats another story. Ive heard prices that arent much off from the brick. Probably blasting that shit first, letting it dry and then repacking for a double harvest.

 

[gh0st9]

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[Catatafish]

Ok, i have an issue i have been fighting with im going to post up here first as a lot of you guys use coco....so please excuse the wrong location post

Im not saying the issue is because of coco, could be completely unrelated, but i can make it happen in coco pretty easy it seems . In organic soil i never had this as far as i can ever remember over many yrs. But im about at my wits fucking end of chasing shit.

I have been running into this issue everytime, some plants worse than others, the last few runs. Its always on the top part, best colas that are receiving the best light while other portions of the plants will be perfectly fine. I do my best to keep the light, in a blockbuster hood with glass removed, at least 24-36" or so away.

Here is a pic from someone else that shows the same issue...hopefully they dont mind ;0 They are getting much better lighting in the pic than my hps soaked images came out.



If you notice the very tip of the cola has calyx's that are "burnt" looking. They also go down the cola a little bit. It makes for an ugly nug without major trim work.

Usually when i see this start i get some yellowing on the top part of that plant as well while other branches are beautiful shade of green yet. The yellowing goes downward as it progresses. There always seems to be tip burn on the fans of these areas as to where there wont be much on other areas, just very very slight elsewhere.

Sometimes i see a calcium def in the fans on that limb that contains the problem but this time i dont. I kept the calmag on longer this time and no real cal issues now. No real yellowing this time either. I have just started to flush or taperdown actually the ec and now its happening slightly.

I was thinking it was nute burn but i have ran 1.0-1.2 ec then entire run this time.

Maybe heat/rh/media drying coming into play...??? I have kept the temps 75-78 ambient, obviously its a little hotter directly under the bulb but i can hold my hand there without issue. I keep RH 50-70%. They are in 2gal buckets, i water twice a day after about 3 weeks in, once at lights on and then about 6-8hrs later. the very top qtr inch or so of coco seems to dry but everything under there is still moist. If anything i would think maybe a little too wet\compaction in the very bottom of the bucket.

This shit always shows up like 6 weeks in or later. Varies a little bit.

I have scoped for RA's and found nothing but there are a shitload of springtails.....always.

Any questions ask away....sorry for the novel.

 

[gh0st9]

Hey Cat, lemme see if I can help ya troubleshoot. Some questions, 1)auto feed or by hand?

2)have they also been fed at 1.0-1.2 ec through their whole life? 3) Straight coco, if so, brand and do you reuse?
4)Any taco-ing, odd coloration? 5)Base nutes? 5)lighting?

I had this problem myself first switching to coco in small pots on drippers, the tops look like they get crispy and don't fill in proper, I realized once the plants are fully rootbound then during their big stack/bloomin stage they drink like crazy, by not being on top of my watering I had essentially dried out my coco btwn watering and it spiked the pH and screwed with the CEC, showed signs of K def, mg def, pH swing burns etc.

I would try to feed lower and more often see if they snap out of it, 3x a day at .8-1.0 ec.. lemme know how that works out for ya

 

[Catatafish]

1)auto feed or by hand? usually auto, but this round i have been babying by hand

2)have they also been fed at 1.0-1.2 ec through their whole life? Yes, maybe slightly more like 1.3. Previous rounds where its worse, following GH sched it gets up to near 2.0
3) Straight coco, if so, brand and do you reuse? This round straight canna. Previous rounds cut with 20-25% perlite. Trying to get away from perlite so my dump spot doesnt get pissed at me . I havent re-used yet due to issues
4)Any taco-ing, odd coloration? Yes some, i will try to snatch a full plant shot tonight on one of the current offenders if i can wrangle it into some better lighting
5)Base nutes? GH 3 part on a few. V&B RO on a different few. In past it was all GH. I have added no boosters or LKB this round at all, just base and calmag
6)lighting? 1k hps

 

[Catatafish]

Maybe my definition of rootbound is different than others in coco, but they dont "appear to me" to be. I think i can pull one out of the bucket and snapshot tonight.

 

[Catatafish]

But what your saying sounds like it....crispy tops sometimes not filled in like they should. Top fans can get crunchy (i think salt buildup causing???) too.

I think i have had multiple issues in the past but have now knock mosted of them away other than this problem. Im not seeing the cal def i normally get any longer.

 

[Catatafish]

lol mosted

 

[gh0st9]

Yeah if its straight Canna in plastic pots ive noticed my rootbound plants don't look root bound, as in their not circling or growth on outside of the media... But when I broke up the root balls by hand it was like a brick..

Try dropping the grow and use h3ad's next round, you don't the extra grow unless youre just tryin to use it up, makes the feed alot more simple.. RO?

Yeah seems to be the case, under 1k the intesnsity makes em drink like crazy+dries out the media a bit quicker if the media dries up like that and the plants have a dry in the smaller pots it can spike the pH locking out the K and mg..

I suggest maybe to condition and reuse the coco, I actually have had a easier time keeping things stable in reused coco much less spikes and swings.

I could be wrong though... You should wait til Stihg gets here, he's seems way better at diagnosing and playing doctor.

 

[Catatafish]

Gh is in tap as everyone else in thread has luck with that.
the v&b is in ro

I tried heads about 1/2 way thru last round but i think the problem was already starting so it didnt do much difference.

 

[ALazyGardner]

Hey guys, shots have been looking good, Spend a few hours in the garden, tipping my Dieselicious in the 2L hempy buckets. They kept falling over as one seed was really stretchy and kept falling over, so I had to load up the bamboo.

Here is shot of pre-98 bubba kush at 53 days of LED flower power.

The first time i grew her, she yielded less than 14g for me, This 2nd round, I think I will have a little better luck. I tried to take pictures, but this the best I could get, Was going to take her out back, but neighbors where out and didn't want them to see it. I have a 3rd one in there and she is about 18-24" and been in there for about 7 days or so.