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First time grower with SILS on micro grow

Sampas92

Just newbin
The seedlings are doing fine!!
The skunk is now well settled in her new home!

The two olders are biggers and biggers day by day...lst is the way for leds!
Yes they are, the fan leafs are over the size of my hand wide, in length almost..

Thanks for all the help caio :)
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
Day 11

Day 11

Hi guys
So another day update on my amnesia
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All going good..
The ondulation that i see in the 2nd set, i dont know what caused it but im thinking in 3 causes.
1st and more probable i think is some ph imbalance in my watering yesterday, i now how to mix it without read the ph after it and knowing that is in the right ph..but it was sater that had a few days old without bring oxigenated, and also i didnt check the ph..but normally its between 6.3/6.7..
2nd cold water, the water yesterday was at 13/14c, thats what the soil probe showed when the water hit it. It started a steady rising just a few minutes after i watered them.
3rd, the halogen bulb, but they are at 5 days now with it, i think if it would have any adverse effects would have appeared sooner i think?
What you guys think?
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
The first week

The first week

So this is day 8 for the photo skunk after the transplant
She is putting growth now, and between the 1st and 2nd node she is stretchier than the auto blue amnesia, its noticeable
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She also shows the ondulation on the 1st set of leafs like her sister.
Upper view
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Besides the ondulation they have, i think everything is on point.
 
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Sampas92

Just newbin
The side photo of the auto, where you can see the side branching.
Its not too soon for it?i mean i know she has 11 days now and autos lifespan is limited but so early so small and so pronouced?
I mean because the led light beam is much more direct than other types of light, its way intenser.
Should i interpret the start of the side branching on the 1st and 2nd node as a sign of too intense light for her?
Peace
 

Caio

Active member
What are you feeding with?
If it's organic in 1 day it start the fermentation and ph goes dawn.
The amnesia have some stress but nothing to worrying about.
Is the central node a little bit curved?

They are not a bit young for a feeding?
The cotyledons are straight green.
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
What are you feeding with?
If it's organic in 1 day it start the fermentation and ph goes dawn.
The amnesia have some stress but nothing to worrying about.
Is the central node a little bit curved?

They are not a bit young for a feeding?
The cotyledons are straight green.

I didnt feed them yet because the pot has 2 soils a more fertilized one in the last third of the pot and sides and a lighter one in the middle, both biobizz, lightmix and allmix.

What do you mean by central node? The new growth? Or the main stem where the cotyledons are? I turn the pot everyday because the lights are above but not in the center, so they point to the 9w 65k sil that its in the middle of the 3 lights.
 

Caio

Active member
Yes, the new growth of the amnesia.
Is not normal that is so twisted.

Now i understand...you give phed water (sorry i'm really high:blowbubbles:)...you use acetic acid for phing?
It's a organic weak acid...it swing ph of water temporarely.
You need a strong acid like sulfuric, nitric or phosphoric acid.

How many ppm have the water?
 

PCBuds

Well-known member
...you use acetic acid for phing?
It's a organic weak acid...it swing ph of water temporarely.
You need a strong acid like sulfuric, nitric or phosphoric acid.

Could you just use more acetic acid to get to the same PH as the sulfuric nitric or phosphoric ?

Would there be a difference ?

I assumed that you just use less of the stronger acid.
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
Yes, the new growth of the amnesia.
Is not normal that is so twisted.

Now i understand...you give phed water (sorry i'm really high:blowbubbles:)...you use acetic acid for phing?
It's a organic weak acid...it swing ph of water temporarely.
You need a strong acid like sulfuric, nitric or phosphoric acid.

How many ppm have the water?
I use apple cider vinegar so drop the ph..
The ppm about my water im not 100% sure because my ppm meter ia one of the cheap ones..it read 107ppm, but i know the readings are lower by a lot..also ppm is always something thats confusing for me because you measure the water it gives x number of ppm, but you dont know if that x is from one mineral, two, three, 20..
I want to buy a ph up and down, but i didnt have the possibilities until now..
I have been ph'ing my water this way for all my plants since the beggining.

I think i can see what you are talking about the new growth, how the new set that is growing is kinda turned?
They now are like this
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I dont think its the same way..also i dont see the same ondulation i see in ths bigger leafs?
Also a few hours later they were perky like the skunk is now
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PCBuds

Well-known member
...also ppm is always something thats confusing for me because you measure the water it gives x number of ppm, but you dont know if that x is from one mineral, two, three, 20..

If you are using municipal tap water, you may be able to find what is in your water at a government web site.


I found the info for my towns water.

If you get an RO filter you'll know exactly what's in your water because you'll be the one putting it in.
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
If you are using municipal tap water, you may be able to find what is in your water at a government web site.


I found the info for my towns water.

If you get an RO filter you'll know exactly what's in your water because you'll be the one putting it in.

I tried to search for it and found it. But i dont fully understand the way they show the results, its confusing and not very easy to read.
The north of my country, where i live have the best quality tap water from the rest of the country, now in detail i dont fully know what that trully means for the girls..
I gave them 50~100ml tap oxygenated water (chlorine evaporated) to each of the youngins, ph 6.4~6.6.
Pot soil temps are always 2~3c under my air temp.

Now since i need to learn and know what my different sil in power do, i switch the 13w from the older girls to the 9w, same 27k spectrum. 25k lux readings now. If it goes bad i will learn, if it turns out good i will learn too.
If i dont see a better internode development of the auto youngin, i think i will switch their sils too.
The photo dont seems to show the same short internode growth.
Sorry guys, i know all of you say they are doing great, but im stubborn as hell, is one of those things i cant control
Peace
 

PCBuds

Well-known member
I tried to search for it and found it. But i dont fully understand the way they show the results, its confusing and not very easy to read.
The north of my country, where i live have the best quality tap water from the rest of the country, now in detail i dont fully know what that trully means for the girls..
I gave them 50~100ml tap oxygenated water (chlorine evaporated) to each of the youngins, ph 6.4~6.6.
Pot soil temps are always 2~3c under my air temp.

Now since i need to learn and know what my different sil in power do, i switch the 13w from the older girls to the 9w, same 27k spectrum. 25k lux readings now. If it goes bad i will learn, if it turns out good i will learn too.
If i dont see a better internode development of the auto youngin, i think i will switch their sils too.
The photo dont seems to show the same short internode growth.
Sorry guys, i know all of you say they are doing great, but im stubborn as hell, is one of those things i cant control
Peace


Yeah, I had the same problem reading the charts.
I'm glad I've got RO water now so I don't need to care except that my tap water PPM is low so I don't have to worry about clogging up my filter too quickly.

I've got my PPM meter to check my water.
It reads 0 pretty accurately.

What's good for human consumption may not be good for cannabis. (like calcium carbonate.)

My RO filter cost $68 CAD...
It should last for at least a year or few.
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
Yeah, I had the same problem reading the charts.
I'm glad I've got RO water now so I don't need to care except that my tap water PPM is low so I don't have to worry about clogging up my filter too quickly.

I've got my PPM meter to check my water.
It reads 0 pretty accurately.

What's good for human consumption may not be good for cannabis. (like calcium carbonate.)

My RO filter cost $68 CAD...
It should last for at least a year or few.

That one think i want to think a try but in the future for when i have the money or patience to diy it kkkkk
 

Greenheart

Active member
Veteran
The photo dont seems to show the same short internode growth.
Sorry guys, i know all of you say they are doing great, but im stubborn as hell, is one of those things i cant control
Peace

We can't always control genetics either.

You are doing much better than I was on my first run. That quote right there already has your answer. They are both under the same lighting conditions. One is stretching the other is not. It is likely just genetics. You could possibly cause more stretch by raising the light. Maybe switching spectrums.

It might also be that she gets her roots put down then leaps for the stars. There is always a stall when transplanting. Then you see the rocket take off a few weeks later. If you are working in pots this is one of the best things to take advantage of. Transplant just before you are ready to bloom. When you see that new growth all lime and popping up rapidly it's time to switch the lights. Ciao knew the drill. ;)
 

Caio

Active member
Don't judge the node spacing by now, they are too young.
If you want more node spacing give them 24 hours of darkness when they are a little bit older.

And for the water...
Try collect with a laundry basket some rain and give it to your plants without fear pH. I have never ph'ed my rain water. And its also completely free.
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
greenheartalways good to read some compliments :)
I know i cant control genetics, but i overthink a lot and that is a huge advantage as desavantadge..
caiothank you for the tip of the darkness. Maybe i will use it later on..
Thanks both of you guys :good:
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
Day 12

Day 12

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So everything looks good on my auto amnesia side
But the pic with the bluish spectrum is after i switched the 13w 27k sil above her by one 9w 65k. I know that this spectrum makes them squatier but they also prefer this colour in this stage, and aftrr the change i see in the older girls after the change of lights i want to try and see how she reacts, the lux readings are 1.5~2k less, around 7k.
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
Olders

Olders

So the reason i switched the light on my youngin was because after the first half of day of my girls, the leafs look way better. At naked eye they dont feel so dry, they arent so curled now and the neew growth seems better.
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Some straping
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The new growth in the smaller one seems better
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In the bigger girl you cant see in the pics but all of the serration tips of the bigger leafs are white, funny white tips all over, they look like tiny little lights kkkk
Peace
 

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