caterpillar710
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Can you send off for an AA 8.2 test and see what's going on and take an ergs reading if you have that meter ?
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Fireknot farm 2016
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Flyingteapot
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You should top dress more often. Teas are not a source of food for the plants, it's a source of biology. In flower i top dress and water it in with compost tea once a week. I am trying green trees this year and have been pretty happy with it. I also liquid feed which is not pure organic
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Thanks...I'm just now learning this about top dressing. I didn't realize I'd have to feed so much.
Analysis on each site will come post season. I'm also going to have leadsled work on calculations for each site. I'm too broke to do it right now. Maybe one site...but we're already almost done here. In the future I will be way more on point about analysis.
Analysis on each site will come post season. I'm also going to have leadsled work on calculations for each site. I'm too broke to do it right now. Maybe one site...but we're already almost done here. In the future I will be way more on point about analysis.
Green trees is good. Developed in butte county. They mill that stuff realllly fine so wear a mask when you disperse it, clouds of ferts lol.
The bulk (tote size) version of green trees is called Agpack and is not as coarsely ground.
The bulk (tote size) version of green trees is called Agpack and is not as coarsely ground.
The problem with the [email protected] is you won't know what inventory is there and how much unavailable calcium is there to take advantage of. This type test is really only for the bases.
Ergs... you mean conductivity.
I would suggest one with a soil probe with the attachment for measuring solutions as well. Most often conductivity is pushed heavily by nitrogen. Yes, potassium and sodium also increase conductivity, but not like N.
Get a complete soil analysis at Spectrum (M3, [email protected], Al, Na and total N's), it is cheap, fast and worth 100 times more than labs that want your circle to fit in their square. If you really want to learn, take the sample and send half to Logan so you can compare, you will see that most folks, without all the right information are going the wrong direction. Can't get there from here....
It took a while for me to convince these guys at Spectrum to do things the way that I know I can get results and that explain foliar results.
I remember that commercial when I was a kid, "Give it to Mikey, see if he likes it... " any one remember that commercial?
Flyingteapot
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Good to know for next year. I like the fine powder for top dress since it waters in super nice and there aren't cakes in certain spots. I'm over vermicrop since it got naught out, definitely been going down hill since. Amending with green trees would be the jam, has all the goodies.
caterpillar710
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Yeah... energy release per gram soil.. Curious in what he has not what's complexes because he says he thinks his plants don't have enough but they seem to be growing great.
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Im up there every day and can tell when they're running low visually which my basic tests confirm...hard to see from the pics...they were yellowing a bit before the guano...they greened up...now I see the same thing happening so more food it is.
Im curious too but priorities and good enoughs sometimes supercede idealisms.
Thx hup...stoked for SL...got 2 starting to stack hard
Im curious too but priorities and good enoughs sometimes supercede idealisms.
Thx hup...stoked for SL...got 2 starting to stack hard
ManitoidsGhost
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I find that it is possible to fertilize enough by augmenting compost teas... mine are nutritious enough to brew 250 gallons, then split to 500 gallons, n water with that.
My greenhouse requires 1000 gallons or so a watering...
Want to talk about Actively Aerated Compost Tea (AACT) augmented for veg or flower.
very inexpensive super nutrition is possible... also, apparently 1000 posts is possible... congrats again.!
My greenhouse requires 1000 gallons or so a watering...
Want to talk about Actively Aerated Compost Tea (AACT) augmented for veg or flower.
very inexpensive super nutrition is possible... also, apparently 1000 posts is possible... congrats again.!
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Im at about 1000 gallons right now too. I would rather be doing it your way than buying earth juice. Give me some material to read por favor. For next year.
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BAKED_BEANZ
right on , going back too your last pics ........... looks like we are about to get to the business end of the show .
can,t wait ,
can,t wait ,
Flyingteapot
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Greenhouse are quicker runs then full season. I am augmenting with the top dress I don't want to much manure and the like in my brew for the size batches I do. I do a consentrate of 1200 gallons to keep the right cfms and then add another 1300 gallon right before watering. I'd like to do more reading on the compost extracts which is what large scale ag does for their teas or is that
the same as aumentented teas?
the same as aumentented teas?
HillMizer
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Looking good! Further along than mine or just filling or just doing better.
Chemicals do work good for the end. If you have piece of mind with that product that helps. Farm supply stores sell mkp, map, triple phos and sul-po-mag cheap. $.50-$1 pound I think.
You're making good decisions whatever route you take.
Chemicals do work good for the end. If you have piece of mind with that product that helps. Farm supply stores sell mkp, map, triple phos and sul-po-mag cheap. $.50-$1 pound I think.
You're making good decisions whatever route you take.
Your gonna be able to afford whatever weed-wacker your little heart desires. No more pulling on your hands and knees! You definitely some gas and power tools in your corner for next year. You've worked really hard man. I'm proud of ya. Is lady gonna help you manicure? You guys gonna try and do a big portion of it yourselves?
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Thank you HillMizer, I was hoping you'd chime in with that. Those are new to me but am definitely going to research them. Seems extremely cost effective if you know what you're doing with them.
Seriously hope so oct! It's been a hell of a year. Yes we will be trimming. Only going to have a couple others on board this year. I have lots of fun ideas for next year...crossing my fingers I make it that far. I got a guy with a rosin press ready and waiting too...hell yea!
Our little veggie garden is crushing. We've had no problems starting seeds and growing in the modified cootz w/unadjusted 5.1 pH water. Hopefully next year we can just rowcrop the whole backyard in ammended native soil and companion plant a wider variety of crops.
Another 11 hour day in the garden tomorrow. Probably more like 12 if I get around to foliar.
Seriously hope so oct! It's been a hell of a year. Yes we will be trimming. Only going to have a couple others on board this year. I have lots of fun ideas for next year...crossing my fingers I make it that far. I got a guy with a rosin press ready and waiting too...hell yea!
Our little veggie garden is crushing. We've had no problems starting seeds and growing in the modified cootz w/unadjusted 5.1 pH water. Hopefully next year we can just rowcrop the whole backyard in ammended native soil and companion plant a wider variety of crops.
Another 11 hour day in the garden tomorrow. Probably more like 12 if I get around to foliar.
HillMizer
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You use them a lot like your other soil amendments. If you have a soil analysis and a weight you want to meet of P,K, .ca. or if you want a certain ratio or fertilizer you want to copy.
Metric is easiest. 1000 grams of 11-52-0 MAP contains 110 grams N 52 Grams P. If you mix 1 kilo of 11-52-0 MAP with 1000 grams MKP 0-52-34 you get 11-52-34. The math on that one easy because the 0s and 52
. There's pelleted versions and soluble versions. Soluble ones take care with. It's like using shooting powder, moab, beastie blooms.
I was topdressing MAP & super triple phos and watering in the MKP.
Metric is easiest. 1000 grams of 11-52-0 MAP contains 110 grams N 52 Grams P. If you mix 1 kilo of 11-52-0 MAP with 1000 grams MKP 0-52-34 you get 11-52-34. The math on that one easy because the 0s and 52
. There's pelleted versions and soluble versions. Soluble ones take care with. It's like using shooting powder, moab, beastie blooms.
I was topdressing MAP & super triple phos and watering in the MKP.[/QUOTE]
Hill,
actually that 52% is P2O5 (phosphate), not P (phosphorus). Only 43.6% of that 52% is actually P, or 22.6% P.
This why the 5-10-5 is really closer to a 5-5-4, (only 83% of the K20 is K).
. There's pelleted versions and soluble versions. Soluble ones take care with. It's like using shooting powder, moab, beastie blooms.
I was topdressing MAP & super triple phos and watering in the MKP.[/QUOTE]
Hill,
actually that 52% is P2O5 (phosphate), not P (phosphorus). Only 43.6% of that 52% is actually P, or 22.6% P.
This why the 5-10-5 is really closer to a 5-5-4, (only 83% of the K20 is K).
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. The K is actually potash(k2O) as well k. Potassium = k2O x .83. There's that too. And a 2x4 is no longer 2"x4".
