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Fireknot farm 2016

Damn it feels good to work. No one around but the birds. I tried moving a wheel barrow up my little hill to the greenhouse. 3 tries of that and I realized I could just fill the 5 gals down by the soil and haul them up one at a time. So I've been doing that all day. I will be doing that all day tomorrow too.

I dont have the funds to ammend the soil at this time so I'm just rolling the dice. Wish I wasn't but thats what next year is for. I will be foliaring around the end of the month though so I hope that offers some balance.

5 gal x 75 pots = 450 gallons = ~ 2.25 yards

I will have to factor that subtraction in when I go to ammend and make my mounds at the end of next month.

I've been cutting the light 15 minutes a day and in 2 days they will be acclimated to 14 hours and I'll be planting them in my greenhouse---which, by the way, held up like a tank during this last bit of rain/snow we just had. I'm stoked. :joint:

When I'm done with that I'll finish the intelligent gardener. Which I suspect I'll have to read 2 or 3x.

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Sorry if I wasn't clear. I believe I just stated this. *looks at post again* yes, I did. I am. Just not right now.

_tessa said:
I will have to factor that subtraction in when I go to ammend and make my mounds at the end of next month
Now it's doubly clear for everyone.

I would if I could.

The consultant I was previously going to use sent me an email a few days ago saying they would get back to me in the morning, I never heard anything. I'm definitely not paying for the service.
 
I actually have a small bag of gypsum, but dont know if it would be worth ammending without the others. I might see how much it will cost to ammend the veg fully and see if I can pull it off.
 
29.6g gypsum [2,220g total]
24.21 ag lime [1,815.75g]
1.64g manganese sulfate [123g]
Per each 5 gal pot x 75^

12.15g copper sulfate, sprayed
31.05g zinc sulfate, sprayed
14.85g borax, sprayed
Onto 2.25 yards total.




This math was done by multiplying weights provided by leadsled by 2.25 then dividing by 75. I'm posting this here for my own notes and research tomorrow and if anyone sees any flaws in my logic please let me know. Thanks.
 

Chunkypigs

passing the gas
Veteran
29.6g gypsum [2,220g total]
24.21 ag lime [1,815.75g]
1.64g manganese sulfate [123g]

Per each 5 gal pot.

12.15g copper sulfate, sprayed
31.05g zinc sulfate, sprayed
14.85g borax, sprayed

This math was done by multiplying weights provided by leadsled by 2.25 then dividing by 75. I'm posting this here for my own notes and research tomorrow and if anyone sees any flaws in my logic please let me know. Thanks.

I see many flaws but my favorite is over one ounce of zinc per 5 gallons soil ???

You sure you want to start spraying those chemicals around homie, got some spare lungs in the closet?
 
Hey Chunk :)

First off...the last three will be ammended by spraying. This is outlined in the intelligent gardener. And yes, I have a respirator! The last 3 are for 2.25 yards total! 5 gal x 75 =450 gal = ~ 2.25 yards

Second...what other flaws do you see? I see none other than not having time to test before planting.

:joint:
 

Chunkypigs

passing the gas
Veteran
Hey Chunk :)

First off...the last three will be ammended by spraying. This is outlined in the intelligent gardener. And yes, I have a respirator! The last 3 are for 2.25 yards total! 5 gal x 75 =450 gal = ~ 2.25 yards

Second...what other flaws do you see? I see none other than not having time to test before planting.

Ok perhaps I read that the wrong way there but it looked like toxic amounts you were suggesting, careful breathing those airborne chemicals.
 

leadsled

Member
I just read that can be done by spraying....cool...
Yes correct. Everyone gave solid advice.


Double checking your math: I saw an error in your math for the recommendations for a 5 gallon pot!

One yard of soil is 202 gallons.
202 divided by 5 is 40.4
Amendments per 5 gallons of soil.

Here is the math, please do double check it. Use a calculator.
972 / 40.4 = 24 grams ag gypsum
807 / 40.4 = 20 grams ag lime
54.6 / 40.4 = Manganese Sulfate: 1.35 grams
5.4 / 40.4 = Copper Sulfate (blue): 0.133 grams
13.8 / 40.4 = Zinc Sulfate: 0.34 grams
6.6 / 40.4 = Borax: 0.16 grams


Nothing worse than getting ignored when you needed to transplant last week!!
Hope that helps if not please let me know.

202 gallons not 173 gallons per yard.
http://www.nrcs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/nrcs142p2_022760.pdf

Wrong:
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Correct:
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Lochinvar

Member
that above is for u. s. gl. 1 yard = 168.179 Imperial gls. not the same. im pretty sure ol tom was using u.s.gl ...for whatever thats worth. an english mile is different from our mile as well. go figure
 
Heh "google that shit" sometimes you just have a million too many things on your mind to remember the simplest of things, you guys kick ass :joint:
 

plantingplants

Active member
So I'm confused. The amendments are for your fresh cootz mix? Is it from RE and did you get the fish compost?

I was going to get some, maybe I should have them add the lime and gypsum there. Not sure if they have the others.
 
Whats up Plants, I still havent gotten off my ass yet and gotten to work, but I just ate breakfast and drank some booch and am going to hit the hill now!

My soil mix is posted on page 1 right? (Trying to stay organized here)
That should tell you what composts I used and in what ratios.
I cut Shcrews' mix in half.

I was told the cootz mix is 130/y, but mine was 160 w trucking, dont know if its cause I asked for custom amounts, I dont know, look into it, it might save you money.

Yeah you can probably base the mix off of logic it sounds like a viable option. They have everything. Take a look at the mix, its in a hyperlink, to better understand.
 

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