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Fermented plant extracts
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TACOE
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Ive been busy as all hell apprenticing at a local og veggie farm. It is kinda depressing being too tired to surf ic. But I'm learning alot and getting experience. * Anyway. Lots of flowers in bloom and my em has just been sitting around (along with the bokashi bucket I purchased with it). Soo. I gathered me some:
Nettle greens (do they flower?)
Comfrey blooms*+ vetch blooms (similar looking and both beautiful
Clover flowers
And some yarrow blooms
Made some fpe and dried a bunch
When u guys do comfrey, are you using greens or flowers?
Anybody tried vetch blooms?
Nettle greens (do they flower?)
Comfrey blooms*+ vetch blooms (similar looking and both beautiful
Clover flowers
And some yarrow blooms
Made some fpe and dried a bunch
When u guys do comfrey, are you using greens or flowers?
Anybody tried vetch blooms?
i've got a yarrow flower FPE brewing right now! cheers!
Im sure this has been asked before, infact Ive seen it, but is this nettle? I was out in a field picking interesting things and from my fuzzy memory this seemed like nettle, had the fuzz needles etc, but didnt sting me..... could somebody give me a quick ID please before I go making potions with unknown weeds?There were so many different pics on google images of 'stinging nettle' it was confusing the hell out of me.
It might be wood nettle, which is similar to stinging nettle, except it has alternate leaves instead of opposite, and doesn't really sting but can.
contributing to Jay's post
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Looking for a solution to my potassium deficient soil
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Looking for a solution to my potassium deficient soil
comfrey~the wonder plant
choped & fermented to a plant extract
once screend & diluted,to a some what tea color drench or foliar spray,this fermentd plant extract simply does wonders for fruits, flwers & them potatoes seem to enjoy a splash or two.
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mugenbao
I had a heck of a time sourcing comfrey (Bocking 14), so I thought this post from CC was worth repeating for others searching in the future...
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Krshna
hey charlie, thanks for the guess but from pics i see on google its not that either. it probably would have helped if i snapped a picture of the plant instead of just grabbing 4 or 5 tops, but i didnt have my camera with me. i still have no idea what it is, but its been fermenting in a 2L bottle for about 4 days now and it smell like spicy oranges. it smell good, really good lol. even my wife thinks so! i keep opening the bottle every morning expecting it to smell horrible and it just smells like oranges!? i dont know what to do with it honestly, never used a fpe... i mean how bad could it be? guess i'll just have to try it out, just not sure if i want to try it weak, or if i should let it go for a week or 2 more and dilute it. anybody with some exp on diluting these things have any advice? right now its a murky greenish color liquid, but still pretty translucent, like tea.
Smells like oranges? Looks like lemon balm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Melissa_officinalis01.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Melissa_officinalis01.jpg
not lemon balm, where was this plant growing? how big? annual or perennial?
you would not be holding it if it was nettle.
not sure why you just don't use any of the dozens of known FPE plants, specially your first time. there are far more than just nettle. some plants have allelopathic effects( meaning it has chemicals that make other plants grow like shit) when you try random ass plants you can get this effect sometimes( i have been there done that)
i recommend beginners ONLY use plants that they are 200% sure are the plant they seek, even if you have to get seed and grow it yourself. its not that hard really.
all other plant material is better suited for the compost pile, which is a FAR better soil conditioner/ "fertilizer" than any fpe could ever hope to be.
keep it simple, don't complicate it or youll have problems.
you would not be holding it if it was nettle.
not sure why you just don't use any of the dozens of known FPE plants, specially your first time. there are far more than just nettle. some plants have allelopathic effects( meaning it has chemicals that make other plants grow like shit) when you try random ass plants you can get this effect sometimes( i have been there done that)
i recommend beginners ONLY use plants that they are 200% sure are the plant they seek, even if you have to get seed and grow it yourself. its not that hard really.
all other plant material is better suited for the compost pile, which is a FAR better soil conditioner/ "fertilizer" than any fpe could ever hope to be.
keep it simple, don't complicate it or youll have problems.
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Krshna
lol thanks jay, i have a few not so important plants im gonna test it on, if they get messed up no big deal.
h.h. thanks for the suggestion, leaves look similar, but they didnt really smell at all when i picked them, and the plant structure looked quite a bit different. again, that picture is probably pretty crappy to id from, when i took it i was fairly certain i would get a 'yep thats nettle' response.
cheers, thanks guys!
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Krshna
jay, it was growing in a field among variety of very tall grass and other plants (and nettle now that i looked at a bunch more pics). annual plant, single stalk plant, maybe 2 or 3 feet tall.. had little 'preflowers' at every leaf node that looked just like pot, with the 2 orange hairs and all.
i wasnt out lookin for stuff for fpe when i found these, i was collecting weeds for mulch, and thought for sure this was nettle so i grabbed a bunch (wasnt looking for random fpe plants), and threw it in some water while i waited for an id on here. i wasnt even going to use it except for the fact that it has developed an interesting orange smell, so i thought it might be something of interest? i dont know. but youre right, i should find some proven plants for fpe, but this was just an accidental goof of a fpe.
interesting note about the alleopathic effect, but i have a couple tester plants so all is well if its a bad one.
I always try to keep a few tester plants for when I find something interesting, then
I will use it in moderation. At least at first.
Product is plentiful in these parts and there enough reputable growers if I fall short, I always end up with a little karma returning.
I understand playing it safe, especially in the non medical states, but baring threats to human safety, we need to reach out past the known.
I will use it in moderation. At least at first.
Product is plentiful in these parts and there enough reputable growers if I fall short, I always end up with a little karma returning.
I understand playing it safe, especially in the non medical states, but baring threats to human safety, we need to reach out past the known.
I think there is a big difference between reaching out past the known and not knowing what you are doing.
There is only so much to learn in books. Much is ignored and much has been forgotten.
Nature, while having a strict set of rules, is very haphazard in it's operation.
Casual observations like neighboring plants help in determining what is a viable option. Alas, one will never know what they are doing without making the mistakes along the way that lead to actual experience.
Nature, while having a strict set of rules, is very haphazard in it's operation.
Casual observations like neighboring plants help in determining what is a viable option. Alas, one will never know what they are doing without making the mistakes along the way that lead to actual experience.
redneck shogun
Member
Honestly a picture really never does a plant justice. I had the hardest time identifying stinging nettle until I started growing it in my yard but now I can spot it from a distance.
i find ID from pix difficult as well
i would have waited for the plant to bloom, blooms are one of the easiest way to tell annual plants. that and just ask people you know, chances are someone knows at least one common name for the plant. which will help you find the true Latin name a lot easier.
damn straight!
damn straight!
