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ELITE CLONES TO S1 FOR THE MASSES

jamesbrow

Member
Just thinking while faded on some gangster. Why isnt some one making s1's of the elite clone that most will never have access to? i read that s1 really aint the same as the clone but it should be but it might not be the same as the plant.

so what i'm saying is this s1 the elites so dudes like me can buy the beans real cheap and say we got this strain or that strain and the holders of the elites can say"well he got an s1 not the real deal" then we all could be happy.

just my thoughts
jb
 

Elevator Man

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I don't think there's really that much difference between 'elite' clones, and 'non-elite' clones. I was given a Cheese X Yumboldt clone a few months ago, which I'll be harvesting this week, and it is a truly amazing plant, which I'll definitely be keeping, and passing on to others - just over seven weeks in soil. But when I got it, I was struggling to fit it in, and nearly gave it away. Even so, even if I had, there'll always be another around the corner.

None of them are...pssst...'elites', it's more just a case of 'fancy trying this one out?' But they're easily as good as any of the 'elites'. I've smoked stuff here in my home town that was as strong as any of the kushes, and just as tasty.

Really, there's so many potentially great strains out there, getting hung up on the few that aren't easily available isn't worth the time. Better still, make your own 'elite' cut...that's what I'm working on...:)
 
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Guest

well s1's dont always replicate their mom but dont worry some good stable lines are in the works.
 

jamesbrow

Member
they are still selling orgnkids here so people said they were bad but they still paid dearly here on auction if not mistaken people want these strains and some people want to play the game "I GOT THIS YOU DON'T" Then thinking that would stop all the bs too
 
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Guest

tryn to make the buzz without all the hype. justwant to give what people want. but the right way .. tested replicates of the moms.
 
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Guest

there is probably more s1 seeds out there than we realize. i know thats what greenthumb did with og. and it turned good even though mine hermied. and belive me it wasent cheap. Swerve has the right idea but if you dont live in cali or know someone with his gear your still shit out of luck. i still wont your stuff swearve .
 
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GhostToker

Because if everyone can claim to have seeds of the elites (even if its not the same as the clone only) then people cant charge 600+/oz anymore... just follow the money
 
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Guest

I have a pack of Chemdawg S1, just got'em on like Friday. I don't expect True Chem, but I do expect great things. I mean, if the stories about Chem, OG, and Diesel are true, then somewhere in these S1's lay the SFV OG cut.

You may not get a "true representation" of the clone, but you're still going to get some bomb ass genetics.
 

Grat3fulh3ad

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Because for trait inheritance purposes, S1's are exactly the same as f2s... With all the phenotypic variation typical of an f2 generation... Wait on Mr.X....
 

dc105

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We are working on that at the moment! I think there is a need out there for fem'd elite cuts! We're working on some purple kush and a few others!
 
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Guest

I don't know what method you guys use to self, but how about selfing only a enough plants to pollen the other clones. That way, you could possibly cut down the hermie percentage in the resulting seed. Is this something that's already done?
 
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Guest

IMHO, I prefer the "Outcross way" to spread "the elite" seeds , more easier ....than selfing ...

btw, elites are full of hype , elites are in your own seeds , so pop them and you'll find the next new elites :lurk:

take care

pa
 
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Some of these "Elite" cuts are not easy to grow. Or, are low yielders... I have seen versions of the same cuts that I have and there are a lot of differences.

There is that to take into account.
 

bravo

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honestly 600 an oz and they still charge 100 a pack. i want to say who ever these commies selling the beans are, what they do with the money? bigger rooms, more clones ect.? i will tell u all this, they are really afraid of making a pp1 of the cut, plain and simple. sure it takes years to master a how to isolate a certain trait while maintaining the rest, good luck to that i say. besides that i don't see any need for s1's except if u don't plan on letting a clone out for their own agendas.
i like how clones get out and every starts to argue how it's not the real deal. i have seen how people sent out copy cats just to see who plan on back stabbing, surprise i have the real photo copy right here and a lot more beans to make another specimen preventing it from degrading. it's an insane world in a place where the money is big for it's illegal actions. with that i say enjoy the world of cannibus. when and if u buy the s1's enjoy it and spread them out or trade! if u don;'t state it's an s1's u just ruin it for the rest of the folks around the community. one bad apple spoils the whole barrel, not to mention the world is full of spoiled goods, bravo

*personally s1's is a short cut after all u all want to look for males. i think their all afraid of folks making their own seed superior to theirs! enjoy the highs n lows, bravo
 
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cannigrow

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lots of people make s1s of elites. that's where many ogs, and bubbas came from...I've got an s1 of Elvis and Chem sister going now...shit there's tons of em.

All I ask is that people are explicit in saying what they have is an S1, not the real clone. That might save us a lot of confusion down the road.
 
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jamesbrow

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GhostToker said:
Because if everyone can claim to have seeds of the elites (even if its not the same as the clone only) then people cant charge 600+/oz anymore... just follow the money

yeah i used to sell abusive og and ecsd years ago for $600-800an oz I paid dearly for the cuts but I got them from the source so its all good. personally I like long flowering sativas or thais and you really cant compare those to these "elites that we argue about" entirely diff highs imo. in my area people pay top dollar for purple weed pretty colors sell
 

jamesbrow

Member
Grat3fulh3ad said:
Because for trait inheritance purposes, S1's are exactly the same as f2s... With all the phenotypic variation typical of an f2 generation... Wait on Mr.X....


isnt f2'2 where you really find that special plant because of the variations
 

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