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EBOLA

bombadil.360

Andinismo Hierbatero
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I've already started to save to get those Ebolaway seeds, the story sounds legit.

thanks CatataFish for all the hard work and for your generosity in bringing out those seeds to the community, yeah!

btw, I heard that pre-86', the Ebola virus was even more lethal, so those seeds should really do away with the current break-out.
I heard this from a mystic that lived on top of a huge cannabis plant in India, that plant is always putting out mature flowers every day, he's the wisest of all, he has entered into nirvana now though.
 

symbiote420

Member
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Calling BS to this whole ebola scare! Nothing more than another fake ass terrorist scheme drummed up by the powers that be.

Why haven't we seen any of the ebola "survivors" being interviewed on television? Sure we've seen some pics on the news but what about the actual people ...no news shows or anything! Seems like they would be the hottest topic on TV right now so why hasn't anyone of em cashed in on their 15 minutes of fame yet?

Especially the 1st "survivor"!!
 

Bulldog420

Active member
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Calling BS to this whole ebola scare! Nothing more than another fake ass terrorist scheme drummed up by the powers that be.

Why haven't we seen any of the ebola "survivors" being interviewed on television? Sure we've seen some pics on the news but what about the actual people ...no news shows or anything! Seems like they would be the hottest topic on TV right now so why hasn't anyone of em cashed in on their 15 minutes of fame yet?

Especially the 1st "survivor"!!

Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...r-talks-about-what-it-was-like-to-have-ebola/
 

Bulldog420

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Ebola damage is done people. Even if Ebola goes extinct for the next 100 years, the Dems have pushed any talk about the mid term elections to the back burner, Obama got to expand the federal government by appointing a czar, and the CDC now has Billions of dollars to play with. Maybe they will build another $500,000,000.00 dirt path again.........


The words that the powers that be live by.
"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." - Rahm Emanuel
 

resinryder

Rubbing my glands together
Veteran
Here's some links that you really need to read, although I doubt you will take the time, because you think it's a joke. I hope you don't have kids.
Once you've read those, get back to me. Until then, your assertions are just noise. It's a shame that people are so unaware of what's happening. Stick your head in the sand and ignore it if you must. I can't.

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What insults?
Nothing in my post was meant to be insulting.
It's just that you don't know much about the topic, so I thought you could use some educational information.
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"Here's some links that you really need to read, although I doubt you will take the time, because you think it's a joke. I hope you don't have kids."

" Until then, your assertions are just noise. It's a shame that people are so unaware of what's happening."

"What insults?
Nothing in my post was meant to be insulting."


Nothing insulting there is it? Hope you don't have kids? Why? Because I don't agree with you now I'm not fit to be a parent? Don't have the "smart" or "enlightened" gene to pass on?
Tell you what. Let's agree to disagree on the topic and part as friends eh?

But before we part ways I took your advice.

"Once you've read those, get back to me."

Ok I did. Surprise!!!! So I'm getting back to you.

BTW, the sections with the wording in bold type or that have bold type in there are from your provided link.

One of your referenced links states-
" Methane emission from livestock and other anthropogenic sources has contributed substantially to past warming; however, it is of much less significance for current and recent warming. This is because there has been relatively little increase in atmospheric methane concentration in recent years,"

Cow must have quit farting



Data of a USDA study indicate that about 0.9 percent of energy use in the United States is accounted for by raising food-producing livestock and poultry. In this context, energy use includes energy from fossil, nuclear, hydroelectric, biomass, geothermal, technological solar, and wind sources. (It excludes solar energy captured by photosynthesis, used in hay drying, etc.) The estimated energy use in agricultural production includes embodied energy in purchased inputs.
Intensification and other changes in the livestock industries influence energy use, emissions and other environmental effects of meat production. For example, in the US beef production system, practices prevailing in 2007 are estimated to have involved 8.6 percent less fossil fuel use, 16.3 percent less greenhouse gas emissions, 12.1 percent less water use and 33.0 percent less land use, per unit mass of beef produced, than in 1977


"0.9 percent of energy use in the United States is accounted for by raising food-producing livestock and poultry."

<1% of energy is used

"8.6 percent less fossil fuel use, 16.3 percent less greenhouse gas emissions, 12.1 percent less water use and 33.0 percent less land use, per unit mass of beef produced, than in 1977"

Everything in the link provided shows it's less than what you are claiming.


Also-Regarding the soybean commit you made
Much soy meal used as livestock feed is produced from material left after extraction of the soybean oil used in foods and in production of biodiesel, soaps and industrial fatty acids. Similarly, canola meal for livestock feed is produced from material left after oil extraction (for food and biodiesel) from canola seed

Soybeans seem to be used for feed AFTER they've been used for other useful purposes first.


Regarding that 50% water usage you're claiming-

"Irrigation water applied in production of livestock feed and forage has been estimated to account for about 9 percent of withdrawn freshwater use in the United States."

Also-

rainfed agriculture, which cannot deplete its water source, produces much of the livestock feed in North America. Corn (maize) is of particular interest, accounting for about 91.8 percent of the grain fed to US livestock and poultry in 2010 About 14 percent of US corn-for grain land is irrigated, accounting for about 17 percent of US corn-for-grain production, and about 13 percent of US irrigation water use,but only about 40 percent of US corn grain is fed to US livestock and poultry.

And here's the clincher=====

Together, these figures indicate that most production of grain used for US livestock and poultry feed does not deplete water resources and that irrigated production of grain for livestock feed accounts for a small fraction of US irrigation water use.



Kinda shoots that 50% number all to hell. As a matter of fact, this link you provided debunks nearly every thing you've posted regarding livestock, water used, grain use, and the numbers you've given.
Thanks for providing the links. I learned something.
Thank you for setting me straight. I do appreciate it. I got my head out of the sand and I just might feed my kids ribeyes tonight.
 

Storm Shadow

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Skinny Leaf

Well-known member
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http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/public_lands/grazing/index.html



OUR CAMPAIGN
Since our founding, the Center has led efforts to reform overgrazing on public lands in the West. Our work protecting endangered species has removed cattle from hundreds of vulnerable riparian areas in national forests in Arizona, New Mexico and California over the years; in 1999 and 2000 alone, we brought pressure and lawsuits resulting in cows and sheep being removed or restricted on more than 2.5 million acres of habitat for the desert tortoise, southwestern willow flycatcher and least Bell’s vireo in the vast California Desert Conservation Area. We’re now in court to increase the federal fee for livestock grazing on public lands to an amount that’s fiscally responsible and less ecologically harmful. Center legal action has compelled the Forest Service to do an environmental impact statement on the impacts of grazing on more than 13 endangered species; in the late 1990s, our work persuaded the Bureau of Land Management to remove cattle from all or part of 32 allotments along the middle Gila River and the Forest Service to remove cattle from 250 miles of streams on 52 allotments in the upper Gila.
The Center also played a leading role in the Coalition for Sonoran Desert Protection, including drafting of a report criticizing the proposed “Ranch Conservation” element of Pima County’s Sonoran Desert Conservation Plan and promoting alternative recommendations to stop grazing in critical habitat for imperiled species. In 2010, Center work helped stop domestic sheep grazing on 7,500 acres in and around the greater Yellowstone ecosystem to protect grizzly bears, lynx, wolves and bighorn; we also halted grazing on a quarter-million acres of Oregon’s Malheur National Forest to protect steelhead trout. In 2011, Center appeals stopped grazing on 33,000 acres of national forest land in Arizona.
The Center and allies sued the federal government to compel it to fix agency budget woes by reforming or eliminating the grazing program, which loses money just as rapidly and consistently as it destroys habitat. Unfortunately, in 2014 the Obama administration announced it would refuse to increase grazing fees to levels reflecting grazing’s true financial and environmental costs.
 

trichrider

Kiss My Ring
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NIH: ‘Vaccinate the Whole Country’ with Experimental Ebola Vaccine
by Christina Sarich
October 15th, 2014
Updated 10/15/2014 at 8:49 am

ebola hazard vaccine 2 263x164 NIH: ‘Vaccinate the Whole Country’ with Experimental Ebola VaccineDr. Anthony Fauci, director of the U.S. National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health, wants to vaccinate the whole country with an experimental Ebola vaccine in light of recently Ebola cases in the U.S. He recently told The Canadian Press in an interview:


Read more: http://naturalsociety.com/nih-united-states-experimental-ebola-vaccine/#ixzz3GnjQxtaz
Follow us: @naturalsociety on Twitter | NaturalSociety on Facebook
 

Grass Lands

Member
Veteran
"Here's some links that you really need to read, although I doubt you will take the time, because you think it's a joke. I hope you don't have kids."

" Until then, your assertions are just noise. It's a shame that people are so unaware of what's happening."

"What insults?
Nothing in my post was meant to be insulting."


Nothing insulting there is it? Hope you don't have kids? Why? Because I don't agree with you now I'm not fit to be a parent? Don't have the "smart" or "enlightened" gene to pass on?
Tell you what. Let's agree to disagree on the topic and part as friends eh?

But before we part ways I took your advice.

"Once you've read those, get back to me."

Ok I did. Surprise!!!! So I'm getting back to you.

BTW, the sections with the wording in bold type or that have bold type in there are from your provided link.

One of your referenced links states-
" Methane emission from livestock and other anthropogenic sources has contributed substantially to past warming; however, it is of much less significance for current and recent warming. This is because there has been relatively little increase in atmospheric methane concentration in recent years,"

Cow must have quit farting



Data of a USDA study indicate that about 0.9 percent of energy use in the United States is accounted for by raising food-producing livestock and poultry. In this context, energy use includes energy from fossil, nuclear, hydroelectric, biomass, geothermal, technological solar, and wind sources. (It excludes solar energy captured by photosynthesis, used in hay drying, etc.) The estimated energy use in agricultural production includes embodied energy in purchased inputs.
Intensification and other changes in the livestock industries influence energy use, emissions and other environmental effects of meat production. For example, in the US beef production system, practices prevailing in 2007 are estimated to have involved 8.6 percent less fossil fuel use, 16.3 percent less greenhouse gas emissions, 12.1 percent less water use and 33.0 percent less land use, per unit mass of beef produced, than in 1977


"0.9 percent of energy use in the United States is accounted for by raising food-producing livestock and poultry."

<1% of energy is used

"8.6 percent less fossil fuel use, 16.3 percent less greenhouse gas emissions, 12.1 percent less water use and 33.0 percent less land use, per unit mass of beef produced, than in 1977"

Everything in the link provided shows it's less than what you are claiming.


Also-Regarding the soybean commit you made
Much soy meal used as livestock feed is produced from material left after extraction of the soybean oil used in foods and in production of biodiesel, soaps and industrial fatty acids. Similarly, canola meal for livestock feed is produced from material left after oil extraction (for food and biodiesel) from canola seed

Soybeans seem to be used for feed AFTER they've been used for other useful purposes first.


Regarding that 50% water usage you're claiming-

"Irrigation water applied in production of livestock feed and forage has been estimated to account for about 9 percent of withdrawn freshwater use in the United States."

Also-

rainfed agriculture, which cannot deplete its water source, produces much of the livestock feed in North America. Corn (maize) is of particular interest, accounting for about 91.8 percent of the grain fed to US livestock and poultry in 2010 About 14 percent of US corn-for grain land is irrigated, accounting for about 17 percent of US corn-for-grain production, and about 13 percent of US irrigation water use,but only about 40 percent of US corn grain is fed to US livestock and poultry.

And here's the clincher=====

Together, these figures indicate that most production of grain used for US livestock and poultry feed does not deplete water resources and that irrigated production of grain for livestock feed accounts for a small fraction of US irrigation water use.



Kinda shoots that 50% number all to hell. As a matter of fact, this link you provided debunks nearly every thing you've posted regarding livestock, water used, grain use, and the numbers you've given.
Thanks for providing the links. I learned something.
Thank you for setting me straight. I do appreciate it. I got my head out of the sand and I just might feed my kids ribeyes tonight.


I live smack dab in the middle of the central valley and I can tell ya it aint the cows or dairy's using up the water...they are closing shop and moving the hell out of the state...
 

med_breeder

Active member
Some say chill
There are over 300,000,000 people in america yet only 3 people infected.

Once upon a time there were only 3 HIV+ people in america, now there are milllions

Reagan was bashed for not doing enough.

Where is the line between fear mongering and being prudent?

Ebola may not be the "one", but....


A human in one city can be anywhere in the world in 24 hours or less.

An infected person doesn't even have to fly, jut hanging out at LAX or Chicago's O'hare for

60 minutes is enough to change the world.

I am just one person who lives a healthy lifestyle. But stuff happens. Governments react. If they didn't go over board and a year from now there was over 1 million infected...

Government... darned if you do, darned if you don't.


That's why I work in the private sector.
 

gaiusmarius

me
Veteran
Little old Cuba sends 300 qualified doctors to go fight Ebola in Africa, the US sends 4000 soldiers with 4 hours of ebola training behind them, hm....
 

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