E.T. evidence thread

[ksac]

"The stems are heated and bent over without breaking... The size and complexity of many of them are astounding, and they are created sometimes within minutes, without a single trace of human activity, perfect sacred geometry, and often contain very advanced, coded information."

Can you provide a source so I don't have to look for this one?

 

[Crazy Composer]

Also in the last video, listen to the astronaut telling Houston that they "still have the alien spacecraft under observance".

 

[Crazy Composer]

search crop circles in youtube. You'll have hours of very hard to explain away footage and information.

 

[Crazy Composer]

ABC news? Are you kidding me? These news agencies are owned by people who want you to know nothing. Is it any surprise that they'd spew lies? Tackle the stuff you aren't talking about, the stuff even you must be wondering how it's possible.

 

[ksac]

ABC news? Are you kidding me? These news agencies are owned by people who want you to know nothing. Is it any surprise that they'd spew lies? Tackle the stuff you aren't talking about, the stuff even you must be wondering how it's possible.

Was that your best argument against it? A conspiracy theory?

 

[Crazy Composer]

Yeah, god forbid someone lie to us! Right!? hehehe Imagine that... They NEVER lie.

 

[MarquisBlack]

(Ref: Fox and the Alien Autopsy video.)

 

[ksac]

Yeah, god forbid someone lie to us! Right!? hehehe Imagine that... They NEVER lie.

You mean like these people making money writing books about UFOs and all the "evidence" out there?

Also, I can't find the type of crop circles you wrote of. Still, crop circles don't prove extraterrestrials, you still have to prove that they exist to make the crop circles, or at least come up with a hypothesis on why they do it.

 

[I N Hail]

Yeah really our government would never LIE to us huh.

And pot is the gateway drug ,makes white women want to sleep with black men
and will make your d**k shrink...O they would never lie ....LMAO

They have so much to cover up ,,and why because they cant control it, so they say it don't exist ,,,And there is their control.

INH

 

[ksac]

I don't think anyone is arguing that the government never lies.

That's was pretty random really.

 

[I N Hail]

Well it does seem that peeps want to believe every thing they (Gov) say about
the nonexistence of other life out there,And leave it at that.

When there is ALOT of people that have giving testimony to the fact they do.
and with photos and vid's to back up their stories.

 

[ksac]

Well it does seem that peeps want to believe every thing they (Gov) say about
the nonexistence of other life out there,And leave it at that.

When there is ALOT of people that have giving testimony to the fact they do.
and with photos and vid's to back up their stories.

What?! The government is not an authority on alien visitation or the existence of other life forms. Where did you hear that? Is it because the government controls NASA? There are other very bright scientist out there that aren't a part of the government, but if you want to talk about NASA you almost always have to reference someone working for the government.

A lot of the testimony brought up on this thread was by former government officials.

Let me get this straight... everything the government says is a lie. Actually I could disprove that very easily.

The reason I don't there is a government conspiracy involved in this subject matter is not because I don't think they would do it. It is because I think there is nothing for them to cover up. Hard to cover up something that doesn't exist to cover up.

 

[ksac]

I know you guys have a real strong distrust for the government. I don't exactly trust them either, but you guys need to let it go if you want to debate the existence of extraterrestrials that come to our planet. Bad government does not equal aliens. It's not evidence for aliens unless you prove there is an alien and then prove the government is covering it up, but then you already proved aliens have visited us and you're just doing extra credit by tackling the conspiracy theory (unless you happen to do both at once).

 

[I N Hail]

Never said everything the gov. says is a lie ,,,Nope never said that!!!

No extra credit's needed here,,NONE

But i do know what happened to myself and no one can convince me other wise.

I do have a hard time seeing witch way you are going though.

 

[Crazy Composer]

Here's a fact... Millions of formerly skeptical people have stopped being skeptical over the last few years. But it's hard to find ANY former believers who have recently become skeptics. Anyone see a trend here? Yes, according to the insatiable skeptics, there are millions and millions, if not billions of fools on the planet. Thing is, these fools became fools by trusting their family and friends' experiences, trusting their own eyes, and trusting their own cross referencing they have done to make sure they are not believing in some simple fantasy with ZERO evidence. Notice I didn't mention they gained any beliefs from governments? I consider trusting a government truly insane. Governments sign treaties with Native Americans, then commit genocide. The media stands by and spins stories to make the nastiest stuff a government does... go away. Big media and government are separate wings of the same organization. These are facts.

You simply cannot change the minds of people who KNOW what they have seen, KNOW to believe their parents, brothers and sisters, trusted friends, etc. Another fact is that once someone comes out in public, among peers, as an active skeptic, it is very hard to convince them that they should seriously consider the possibility that they have been terribly, completely wrong the whole time.

These facts mean this kind of conversation, where people who KNOW what they've seen will butt heads with people who have seen nothing at all, and refuse to believe others... unless the "others" are skeptics as well. This ends up being the same exact situation as we see in the differences between liberals and conservatives. Pointless.

 

[Crazy Composer]

Astronaut speaking truth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5upFvipUAXs

 

[Crazy Composer]

Edgar, the liar, exposing reality... again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlOZtfy0MwY&feature=related

 

[Crazy Composer]

Astronaut Gordon Cooper telling the truth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVfy...77594CFC&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=13

 

[whiskeytango420]

Of COURSE there is no government conspiracy!
And nothing to show how it could be faked either huh...


http://www.cooliris.com/tab/#url=js...id=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE

(and no Area 51, White Sands, iron mountain....)

good vibes

 

[I N Hail]

Yes i agree CC there is alot more ppl now that have had their own situations who atleast
would except the possibility we're not alone.

Hell 25 yrs ago i guess i was one.(skeptic) but that passed, Cause i began to Open my mind to the fact that there was just to many people who have came forth and told their stories.Along with ALL the pic's /vids out there sure some are fake but even if just 1%
of the stories are true,,,,then ya know.......
I mean how could some one like an astronaut fake a video taking in space then get it out to the public,it just seems kinda far fetched that they would even try.These are the ones (vids/pics) that hold alot of credit in my book.

INH