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dr. greenthumb

fatburt

Member
dr g is a lying douche bag!

chemdawg,biggybuds,ogman....go to any forum and the only subject they will talk about is greenthumb,defending him,and lip anyone who has any issues with greenthumb.

do a google search...
 

oldsod

New member
Dr. Gruber posts grow journals, with photos and comments EVERY WEEK of the grow with a smoke report and lab analysis at the end and has been doing that for years. Anyone who doubts it can readily Google Dr. Gruber and see for themselves. Now, you can argue with that all you want but I'll put that kind of REAL reporting up against your mouthing off and hate any time.
 

oldsod

New member
Dr. Gruber posts grow journals, with photos and comments EVERY WEEK of the grow with a smoke report and lab analysis at the end and has been doing that for years. Anyone who doubts it can readily Google Dr. Gruber and see for themselves. Now, you can argue with that all you want but I'll put that kind of REAL reporting up against your mouthing off and hate any time.

Sorry, you actually have to Google "Dr. Gruber G13", or "Dr. Gruber Bubba OG" "Dr. Gruber Sour Diesel" etc.
 

BadRabbit

Active member
I believe there are 3 seeds in the Bubba packs.

Once again though, it seems he has legit cuts, so for anyone who simply wants legit s1' I don't see the issue. Sorry if you didn't get anything good out of 6.

Personally I would have never jumped on anything he does that isn't an S1, tons of great breeders working more stable lines.[/NoQUOTE]

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Thanks NEGT.... the Bubba OG IS an S1 .... that's why my confidence was so high. We all have packs that don't turn out. But at that price?!?

If you look at his site on that link he lists the Bubba at $200 for 2 seeds then puts in quotes that he generously includes 4 seeds in the pack. Woohoo!

While that pricing display makes absolutely no sense, I don't think there's any argument that his prices are generally stratospheric.


best,
rabbit
 

BadRabbit

Active member
Sorry, you actually have to Google "Dr. Gruber G13", or "Dr. Gruber Bubba OG" "Dr. Gruber Sour Diesel" etc.

And why then does Gruber feel compelled to cross post his promotional posts on his Bubba OG grow from 3 years ago to every single pot forum, US and Europe?

I don't know ANY single legitimate grower who does that.

I do know several hack breeders and their shills who do though ... including you and Gruber.

Just the facts you phony.
 

BadRabbit

Active member
dr g is a lying douche bag!

chemdawg,biggybuds,ogman....go to any forum and the only subject they will talk about is greenthumb,defending him,and lip anyone who has any issues with greenthumb.

do a google search...


The idiot even uses the same langauge .... exactly the same words and phrases to defend himself and attach others as "oldsod" does here.

Anyone he calls him out is called a "hater" and claims "facts" are on his side.

The words are the same, the abrasive small-minded childish personality is the same ... and it sounds exactly like that DUMBASS on the other end of the phone at Dr. Greenthumb seeds.
 
I tried three of the Docs strains. The ECSD, Bubba OG and the G-13. Here are the pros and the cons of hie strains.

Pro: All the strains were vigorous and easy to grow. All were heavy yielders, 4.5z to 7z in a
five gallon pot. The G-13 put out 8 - 9 ozs. They all clone easily.

Cons: The ECSD S1 the phenos were all different. There was one female that was a true representation of the ECSD. Good flavor and potency went 13 weeks. The rest of the phenos were completely different with no potency. Could not give it away.

The Bubba Og had two phenos the Bubba type and the OG type. The Bubba phenos were better than the OG phenos. They all had average potency, nothing impressive.They were all non keepers because I developed a tolerance after a couple times of use.

The G-13 was a hugh yielder! Very impressive, got 8 - 9 zs each from the 2 plants.
The buds smelled spicy with fruity aroma, nice frost and sour taste but had zero potency.

One thing that the three strains have in common were it had the same sour taste.
I suspect he is using the same plant to produce the seeds. I think he is using this one plant because it adds heavy yield and strong vigor.

All 3 strains cost $550, and no keepers. Will I buy any more seeds from him?
Nope. Because there are better seeds at lower price else where.
The only reason I purchased the seeds was to satisfy my curiosity and to hopefully find something good.

I paid the $550 to satisfy my curiosity so you don't have to.
 

BadRabbit

Active member
Thanks for sharing ... and I'm glad I figured it out after only one purchase - I experienced the same notable vigor to the plants ... all germed, vegged beautifully and cuts rooted easily. The end results were entirely non-impressive.

His "my seeds are so good I charge huge money" marketing scam is extraordinary really, but ultimately he should sell seeds at normal, fair pricing and perhaps he wouldn't get so many people ticked off at him.
 
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oldsod

New member
I don't think people here need your immature hyper-posting about one bad experience with Bubba OG where you yourself said you burned your plants. Maybe if you used a decent sized pot, proper Ph and didn't burn the shit out of your plants you'd have had a better result. Rookie mistakes. Get over it already. All the reports I've read say the Bubba OG is amazing and I thought it was too. Again, I'd urge people reading this to Google "Dr.Gruber Bubba OG" for a week by week grow journal, with photos a smoke report and a lab analysis and you can make up your own mind.
 

BadRabbit

Active member
I don't think people here need your immature hyper-posting about one bad experience with Bubba OG where you yourself said you burned your plants. Maybe if you used a decent sized pot, proper Ph and didn't burn the shit out of your plants you'd have had a better result. Rookie mistakes. Get over it already. All the reports I've read say the Bubba OG is amazing and I thought it was too. Again, I'd urge people reading this to Google "Dr.Gruber Bubba OG" for a week by week grow journal, with photos a smoke report and a lab analysis and you can make up your own mind.

BS.

NOT a rookie ... 20 years of indoor growing experience.

Grow in all hydro, rockwool with GH nutrients and run 3 to 4 rooms under sun systems MH and HPS bulbs, kept fresh, and have completed literally hundreds of grows and strains.

You're a thinly veiled hack, a liar and fake. And there you go again ... anybody who calls you out is a hater and you call them names.

Bite me pipsqueak.

And quit urging people to read your fake shill posts that you've spewed across the web greenthumb ... you're a scam and a pox on the industry.
 

thegambler

Active member
Some of you may know me as a "known" Dr. G hater, and I had a small war with him for over 2 years on many of the sites we all visit. I also posted early in this read. I also go by the name "sshz" on other sites. I have grown his Endless Sky, Bubba OG, G13 and a few others- if you search google you'll easily find some of my grows. Dr. Gruber is not Dr G- but he does get free seeds from him and posts his many 1-2 plant grows on many sites. I've had some interactions with him and he is a nice, decent guy. He has some serious health issues and can get sharp with people, but if you're decent towards him, he'll be decent with you. I can't say that of Dr. Greenthumb.

Lastly, ECSD is the only thing I would recommend (or buy) from GreenThumb. It's the only thing really special in his line of seeds.
 

BadRabbit

Active member
Some of you may know me as a "known" Dr. G hater, and I had a small war with him for over 2 years on many of the sites we all visit. I also posted early in this read. I also go by the name "sshz" on other sites. I have grown his Endless Sky, Bubba OG, G13 and a few others- if you search google you'll easily find some of my grows. Dr. Gruber is not Dr G- but he does get free seeds from him and posts his many 1-2 plant grows on many sites. I've had some interactions with him and he is a nice, decent guy. He has some serious health issues and can get sharp with people, but if you're decent towards him, he'll be decent with you. I can't say that of Dr. Greenthumb.

Lastly, ECSD is the only thing I would recommend (or buy) from GreenThumb. It's the only thing really special in his line of seeds.



Fair enough ... my only question then is why does Dr. Gruber post the same grow across dozens of sites across pot forums everywhere in the U.S. and Europe?

I suppose the answer is self evident in the "free seeds" issue ....
 

thegambler

Active member
Yes, Dr. Gruber is out of Michigan and is well known in the "medical marijuana" scene there...his agreement with Dr. Greenthumb is he'll post his grows (good or bad) and give an honest opinion on numerous sites.

Why does he do it.....I think it's more about a sense of loyalty to Dr. GT then anything. Again, he's got serious medical issues- and I'm guessing he has nothing else to do, nor can he do much else.

Really the only thing that bothers me about it all is he'll often wait the entire grow (and see how it turns out) before posting. Then he'll rapid fire the grow posts- like a whole grow posted in a few weeks.
 

OakyJoe

TC Nursery est 2020
Veteran
He's a good breeder, and the iranian auto is great. I grew it a few years ago and it performed awesomely at 44 deg latitude.

The iranian crosses are also great. The Iranian chemdawg has been the staple of my garden. It's the only strain I've kept. Every other strain has gone by the wayside.

Honestly it's become kind of a staple around my way and it's the only strain that people consistently ask me for, due to the amazing and pungent chemdawg funk. Believe it or not there's been an extensive waiting list for the "IC" quite a number of times during the drying/curing period.

Here she is @ 9-10 weeks, right before the chop.

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Yes indeed his Iran Genetics a something special! wonder if bodhi and Dr. G got those same Iran Genetics.... or at least the same genpool....
 

thegambler

Active member
AS Dr. Gruber released his independent potency test in his grow, it showed GreenThumbs Bubba had only around a 16% THC mark, quite low by many standards. He recommended it to me and I grew it out once- 22 plants. It was plain old lousy, I still have around 5 oz. left over. Doesn't even get me high anymore. Dr. Gruber and Dr. GreenThumb are not the same people. Gruber lives in Michigan and is well documented up there, along with some serious health issues and conditions. GreenThumb is in Canada, unable to sell his seed business and moving forward with some new releases. Greenthumb gives seeds to Gruber to document his grow, which is pretty normal these days. Gruber does have some growing skill and has been a GreenThumb lover for years, but they are not the same person.
 

cityboy

New member
Well I know I have been searching for the clone of ecsd the one that they call chaco cut, at any rate a while back this guy I met duped me out of a bunch of money I mean a ridiculous amount that I won't even recall, for the so called cut, me being naive at the time and really wanting that special something fell into the trap.

Well recently I been doing some research on a good ecsd line and could find nothing in stock but dr greenthumb. I remember I had bought the rare dankness sour d og, but had to tear down due to a security scare. Now that line is discontinued. But that strain was a polyhybrid.

After hearing mixed reviews and seeing a couple grows, I thought what the hell. Received them yesterday. I really hope to find something special. Can't wait to put these in the ground
 

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