Well that was nice of you, MWG! Was that for sharing my experience? Blow a blunt, take it easy! We can't all have the same experiences and besides, I was growing a completely different strain to you!
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Dr Greenthumb Seeds Iranian Diesel
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Well that was nice of you, MWG! Was that for sharing my experience? Blow a blunt, take it easy! We can't all have the same experiences and besides, I was growing a completely different strain to you!
Because his seeds are just like other breeders ... hit or miss. Sometimes good results, sometimes crappy ... face the truth.
The problem with Dr GT is that he charges up to $100 per f***ing seed then acts like a total dick when someone calls him out for getting screwed and glued with crappy results.
It's pretty simple, get a clue.
Never had a bad plant from DGT. I agree he is overpriced but his results speak for themselves. Being upfront I used to journal for DGT under a different name and place so I received most of my seeds for free. I've run his C99, Chemdawg, Sour 13, Iranian Chemdawg, G13, OhZone, ECSD, Jazz, and his original Bubba. I have never had a bad plant or hermie from him unlike "other" so called breeders. The OhZone (Chemo x Ghost OG) is highly recommended. I still have beans tucked away and will get back into them someday. He's a love or hate type person as these threads always show and doesn't have the best customer relations if you call him as was touched on earlier. I would say stick with his S1's or elite crosses and you shouldn't go wrong.
Peace,
KF
Peace,
KF
I'm glad for you, KF but my experience is truly quite the opposite as is that of plenty of others here in my zone, though I accept that there could be some good material amongst his selections.
But I certainly won't be risking my bucks on his stuff ever again! There's simply way too many good operators out there to choose from these days, seed co.s who are offering highly reliable, top-shelf product at affordable prices. I can't be wasting time as much as anything else because time is money (and a whole lot more)!
I notice it's a relatively small number of people who ever venture to try the Doc's gens, so I guess if the 'word of mouth' theory has a lot of truth to it, the popularity of his product would be speaking for itself, loud and clear. Rather, I find it's a tiny, tiny few people who venture there and I see none of them coming back with dynamic reports, to put it mildly.
Good luck to all those who have success with his gens; power to you!
billy
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The only person I know that likes to order Dr Green thumb seeds is an old rich fella that doesn't really know how to grow. The kind of guy that feels that since it is expensive it must be the best.
That being said I have seen some decent g13 from DGT. Very stable huge producer that smelled like blue berry pancakes.
That being said I have seen some decent g13 from DGT. Very stable huge producer that smelled like blue berry pancakes.
Harpo
Active member
I hate to post but I have a dog in the fight.
I grew out DGT's Acapulco Gold and Malawi.
Honest to God, the first time I got high was on Acapulco Gold back in 1972. There was a lot of it in Chicago.
It gives one, a distinctive floating disembodied high. DGT's AG was spot on. Buds turned gold at maturity.
I continue to enjoy the bright energy of the Malawi. I grow some out every year. Sadly I lost the AG.
These are untamed sativas. Difficult to grow indoors.
I haven't tried DGT's recent offerings, but I'm well satisfied.
I grew out DGT's Acapulco Gold and Malawi.
Honest to God, the first time I got high was on Acapulco Gold back in 1972. There was a lot of it in Chicago.
It gives one, a distinctive floating disembodied high. DGT's AG was spot on. Buds turned gold at maturity.
I continue to enjoy the bright energy of the Malawi. I grow some out every year. Sadly I lost the AG.
These are untamed sativas. Difficult to grow indoors.
I haven't tried DGT's recent offerings, but I'm well satisfied.
One of mine had a very nice Grape Champagne flavor and would easily yield a lb per plant in a tent, and another had very subtle fruity smell along with a burnt rubber taste. I was the first person to run his G13 in a journal and it did not disappoint but drew a lot of trolls as something as controversial as G13 is. In the end DGT was exonerated as it finally came out that he bought the cut from Jim Ortega and then Neville admitted it in the Mr. Nice forums that he had passed on the original cut to Ortega aka Dogless. Once again I am upfront and telling you I didn't pay for the seeds and wouldn't at the price he charges for the G13 though he does include an extra seed in every pack. Steve Tuck even trolled the journal but was put in his place, just where the shady motherfucker deserved.
Peace,
KF
And isn't that nice, that he includes an extra seed in every pack! How sweet is the man for doing that?!!
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BAKED_BEANZ
my thoughts are you start reading bad posts about breeders, its time to steer clear. and not being the first site i,ve heard customer service is bad ,was the nail in the coffin for me to not trial his gear.
I find that is the time to investigate the problems and right them if possible. So many breeders outside of IC get shamed in the eyes of our members as it all starts from one fuckboy giving a bad review.
I've been on here for a while and have noticed a snowball effect in which one person will give a bad review of a seed company and others reference that idea or mishap as there own and things escalate very quickly. To the point where we have people that have not even purchased or grown beans of a seed company, yet feel the need to off-put others based on what they read.
BT
I dunno .... most, not all, but most grower comments and experiences tend to be true IMO. (including the positive commenters on this thread I'm sure).
There are no large scale breeders/seed sellers, no matter how good, who don't have a contingent of growers who don't get great results with their stuff ... that's just the nature of the genetic crapshoot involved in popping seeds (especially from a small sample of seeds like drgt sells.)
Where Dr. GT really gets roasted is in how he handles customer service/communications when things don't turn right. Given his exorbitant prices, sandpaper personality and my personal experience with him, I'd say it's well deserved.
greenthumbskunk
New member
I have gotten some seeds from Dr Greenthumb before and have talked to him on several occasions. I have to admit that he is an asshole and acts like he could care less about your business. One of the strains that I bought from him was the Iranian Auto. Not a cross but the real thing.
I still have some seeds left over and am planning on running it again as it was a good yielder and some strong smoke.
One thing that he told me was that it would grow under 24 hrs of light and that it did. It never went into flower. I put one of the plants in a room where it got 22/2 light cycle and it went into flower. You can take cuttings off the plant as well.
I agree with 100 a seed is higher than a cats back but its your choice of not to buy. I see some posts about his seed that is 20 a piece being high but I see that all the time at the seed banks. I'd like to get a few more seeds off him of various breeds that he has.
If you guys spent 25k on a plant you would be charging big bucks for the seed as well.
I still have some seeds left over and am planning on running it again as it was a good yielder and some strong smoke.
One thing that he told me was that it would grow under 24 hrs of light and that it did. It never went into flower. I put one of the plants in a room where it got 22/2 light cycle and it went into flower. You can take cuttings off the plant as well.
I agree with 100 a seed is higher than a cats back but its your choice of not to buy. I see some posts about his seed that is 20 a piece being high but I see that all the time at the seed banks. I'd like to get a few more seeds off him of various breeds that he has.
If you guys spent 25k on a plant you would be charging big bucks for the seed as well.
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BAKED_BEANZ
i,m not sure its the price or the quality that steer people away. its comments like he is an asshole from a actual customer. seems to be repetitive comment . but hay its his business or can run it like he wants. but being a proclaimed asshole doesn't fill the bank account or give your business a good rep.
kinda getting of topic though sorry..... i do enjoy seeing pics of his gear regardless. nice seeing whats out there.
kinda getting of topic though sorry..... i do enjoy seeing pics of his gear regardless. nice seeing whats out there.
MostWantedGens
Active member
I think DR GT is the best kept secret! 
I ordered from him Iranian Chemdawg and Iranian Bubba Kush for this season, I hope they will arrive soon. I plan to sow them in March.
I ordered from him Iranian Chemdawg and Iranian Bubba Kush for this season, I hope they will arrive soon. I plan to sow them in March.
I think DR GT is the best kept secret!
And it's probably better it remains a LOST secret, FOREVER!
My partner corrected me, it was 9 packs of his Iranian(Endless Sky) we purchased (pardon me, I thought it was 7). It was grown extra well, I'm a long term pro and it went before some of the most experienced people in the business here in the Nimbin district of NSW, Australia....
And absolutely NO ONE was impressed by it AT ALL, on a number of accounts...
1. It's bag appeal was about 4/10, [fine, loose, stringy, really weird looking, little resin]
2. It's smell was about 4/10, [faintly floral]
3. It's flavour was about 3/10 [musty floral taste similar to mold].....AND...
4. It's potency was about 6/10. [mild and lifeless]
It was an awful lot of money (9 x US$225 = US$2,025) to have spent to find out that his most hyped strain or as the Doc calls it, "our most popular strain",is nothing but rubbish. Seriously, RUBBISH! And I kid you not as I certainly have no vested interests in denigrating his image here on ICMAG.
The logic is, if his Iranian is, as he claims it is, his "most popular strain", I shouldn't think there's much need to look further into his gens, hey Doc?! If his hallmark strain, his benchmark standard can be so pathetic...what would you conclude?
As an ICMAG Donor, I regularly give away free quality genetics for absolutely no gain whatsoever other than to put a smile on the many faces that I never get to see. At the end of the day, it's a bit of a thankless task but one that gives me deep personal satisfaction.
And hey, I'm not trying to dampen anyone's dream here, I'm simply sharing my experience with anyone who may be wise enough to learn from another's mistake, to hopefully save them from the same dilemma. I was burnt, SERIOUSLY BURNT!
Looking back, it was threads like this one that led me in, hook, line and sinker. I'm sorry there's a need to speak up, to take the shine off the fool's gold!
Have a dank day!
billy
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When did you say you grew those out? As I said before he apparently lost one or both of the parents of the Endless Sky. There's no doubt its rep as a hard hitter was earned about 6-8 years ago. If you look at " favorite" or "best" strains post from that time its always mentioned a few times. Shame its no longer around like that.
Gidday Smokey,
Did mine around 3 years ago. Yes, I have no doubt the Doc grabs himself good genetics to begin with, who wouldn't?! It's not like they aren't out there in abundance...
And so it's only fair to say you'll find good genes amongst his stuff but it appears his credentials as a breeding operator are far from professional. And of all people, the Doc ought to be first to know where his stuff is lacking and oughtn't to be perpetuating bogus claims. He capitalises on the gullible, the trusting and naïve and newbies to the game.
What was once good about Endless Sky has now moved on to become a myth! To perpetuate the myth in knowledge of it being a myth, reeks of greed for $$$$$$!
As I say, if you stumble on something good from amongst his lines, all that much more power to you!
billy
Did mine around 3 years ago. Yes, I have no doubt the Doc grabs himself good genetics to begin with, who wouldn't?! It's not like they aren't out there in abundance...
And so it's only fair to say you'll find good genes amongst his stuff but it appears his credentials as a breeding operator are far from professional. And of all people, the Doc ought to be first to know where his stuff is lacking and oughtn't to be perpetuating bogus claims. He capitalises on the gullible, the trusting and naïve and newbies to the game.
What was once good about Endless Sky has now moved on to become a myth! To perpetuate the myth in knowledge of it being a myth, reeks of greed for $$$$$$!
As I say, if you stumble on something good from amongst his lines, all that much more power to you!
billy
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