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DP Fem Orange Bud from seed, 220watt HPS/CFL
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waydee
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Yeah it came off without any hassle, cheers for the advice!
As for pictures, ask and ye shall receive
First one to break surface: maybe not very clear in picture but stem has a pronounced deep red/purple colour and is staying very short, good sign? I realise its no time to be discussing obvious phenotypes right now but its the first seedling of mine i've seen that looks like this
One that was holding on to its shell: stretched a little but nothing serious, is just starting to open up now - think she'll be fine
Group shot, note angle of picture isnt very good - made the lights look further from the pots than they actually are, just measured it and they're pretty much dead on 1" above the rim of the pot and thus around 2" from the soil surface.
edit: ooh, just did a search and found that a purple stem can be from any number of causes, from a common skunk (orange bud is a skunk strain isn't it?) trait to potassium deficiency to a result of stress... hope she hasnt got any problems, these two are my last hope
As for pictures, ask and ye shall receive
First one to break surface: maybe not very clear in picture but stem has a pronounced deep red/purple colour and is staying very short, good sign? I realise its no time to be discussing obvious phenotypes right now but its the first seedling of mine i've seen that looks like this
One that was holding on to its shell: stretched a little but nothing serious, is just starting to open up now - think she'll be fine
Group shot, note angle of picture isnt very good - made the lights look further from the pots than they actually are, just measured it and they're pretty much dead on 1" above the rim of the pot and thus around 2" from the soil surface.
edit: ooh, just did a search and found that a purple stem can be from any number of causes, from a common skunk (orange bud is a skunk strain isn't it?) trait to potassium deficiency to a result of stress... hope she hasnt got any problems, these two are my last hope
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waydee
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Well the stretchy one has taken the lead pictures dont really show it but the shorter one (first to sprout) is a much darker green shade than the stretchier one, still both are getting about their business of pushing out those first leaves just fine I think, its really great being able to see a real difference every day I check
pictures dont really show it but the shorter one (first to sprout) is a much darker green shade than the stretchier one, still both are getting about their business of pushing out those first leaves just fine I think, its really great being able to see a real difference every day I check 
NG2k
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yeh the taller one (with the shell on) will eventually turn dark green aswell, dont worry about em they're doing fine. btw.... those HPS arent on yet are they? mite just be the picture.... i picked up some all-mix today and while i was at the hydro-shop i was wondering whether they had an E40 fitting (for the larger bulbs, 150W+) because as i said im building my own 150W but fittings are something i cant find too easily. they had an old reflector complete with light fitting and bracket for £5. now that is a bargain! i just hope it fits.... :wink:
NG2k
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yeh i was chuffed to the core, the cheapest fitting i could find was £8 + P&P. a reflector, socket and bracket for a £5 was great. it was pure luck they had one.... ex-display model, corners need rivetting and its actually designed for a 400W HPS, so it needs trimming to fit the 150W i will use as at the mo its way to big for my cabinet.
good news tho, i spied a root on one of my clones so, they should be potted up tomoro if i get time. then starts the diary.....
good news tho, i spied a root on one of my clones so, they should be potted up tomoro if i get time. then starts the diary.....
waydee
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Just BioGrow and BioBloom, the soil directions say not to feed for the first 2 weeks, i guess thats due to the guano so i'll let them go another week and probably begin feeding BioGrow monday 29th, half strength every second watering for the first week then bring it up to 1ml/litre every second watering from then on.
Sound good?
Sound good?
waydee
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Decided that today would be the day to get the HPS's turned on, day 9 from planting and they're growing so fast - moved the shelf so the plants are around 8" from the lamps and turned on.... only one working, damnit - swapped bulbs around and determined i've got one bad bulb. Likely the floodlight units came with the cheapest bulbs available I prefer tubular bulbs since they free up an inch or so of space but I couldn't find any (i've had them before though) so just ordered the most reasonably priced SON-I 70watters I could find.
So one is under an HPS and 2 20watt CFLs (the slower one) and the taller faster one is still under a single CFL for the moment while my new bulbs arrive! hopefully the extra light for the slower one will help it catch up a bit... it only looks to be two or three days behind the other anyway and both are working on getting the second leaves out.
I prefer tubular bulbs since they free up an inch or so of space but I couldn't find any (i've had them before though) so just ordered the most reasonably priced SON-I 70watters I could find.So one is under an HPS and 2 20watt CFLs (the slower one) and the taller faster one is still under a single CFL for the moment while my new bulbs arrive! hopefully the extra light for the slower one will help it catch up a bit... it only looks to be two or three days behind the other anyway and both are working on getting the second leaves out.
NG2k
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well after 2 weeks i would feed them 1ml/L BioGrow every watering for a week..... and then go upto 1ml/L BG and 1ml/L BB for the week after that. you cant overfeed with bio-bizz so dont worry about overferting just over-watering, (be careful with how often you water them in these big pots). you can follow the bio-bizz chart if you want, just go on the basis that your soil is the all-mix, but you may want to add some extra BG every now and then, because i dont know how strong your soil is.
as for day 9 from planting, thats not a wise move, thats like saying a 3month old baby is 12months old from conception yet you wouldnt give it solid food then would you??? go from the days that they sprouted..... tough-luck that your bulb blew, have u tried using it again after a cool-down period? have your ballasts got their own ignitors or do you use internal igniting 70Ws?
get both sprouts under the same lamp otherwise the bigger one under the single CFl will bend towards the HPS a bit.
as for day 9 from planting, thats not a wise move, thats like saying a 3month old baby is 12months old from conception yet you wouldnt give it solid food then would you??? go from the days that they sprouted..... tough-luck that your bulb blew, have u tried using it again after a cool-down period? have your ballasts got their own ignitors or do you use internal igniting 70Ws?
get both sprouts under the same lamp otherwise the bigger one under the single CFl will bend towards the HPS a bit.
waydee
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got me confused ng, they've not received any nutes apart from what was already in the soil
also the way the cab is set up, the faster plant under the cfl doesnt get much light at all from the hps on the other side since the carbon filter is in the way and since its only an inch or so from the cfl its getting much stronger light from there and is growing straight upwards.
Its absolutely flying along infact, its putting the other one to shame! even under the increased lighting the small one is still lagging, the leaves look shorter and fatter however, I think it might just be in its nature to be the shorter slower slightly more stocky plant. I guess we'll see within a few weeks when they've pushed out a few nodes.
also yes its self igniting bulbs i need, made sure of that one
also the way the cab is set up, the faster plant under the cfl doesnt get much light at all from the hps on the other side since the carbon filter is in the way and since its only an inch or so from the cfl its getting much stronger light from there and is growing straight upwards.
Its absolutely flying along infact, its putting the other one to shame! even under the increased lighting the small one is still lagging, the leaves look shorter and fatter however, I think it might just be in its nature to be the shorter slower slightly more stocky plant. I guess we'll see within a few weeks when they've pushed out a few nodes.
also yes its self igniting bulbs i need, made sure of that one
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NG2k
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what i mean is after 2 weeks from sprouting i would feed them 1ml/L BioGrow every watering for a week..... and then go upto 1ml/L BG and 1ml/L BB every watering for the week after that..... then keep increasing BB every fortnight or so on. dont give the plants to much liquid too often, they shouldnt be in those large pots really, u may starve the roots of air.... just how i see it anyway.
the plant under the CFL will be flying along because it wont be getting enough light and is stretching to find it...... 20W even for a seedling is not enough. the one under the HPS will stay short and get bshy because HPS is a stronger type of light. short and bushy is what you want, not tall and skinny..... put them both under the HPS.
keep us posted
the plant under the CFL will be flying along because it wont be getting enough light and is stretching to find it...... 20W even for a seedling is not enough. the one under the HPS will stay short and get bshy because HPS is a stronger type of light. short and bushy is what you want, not tall and skinny..... put them both under the HPS.
keep us posted
waydee
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I know this man but the plant under the cfl isnt stretching - its only around an inch from the cfl, its simply pushing out leaves faster and the leaves it has put out are much bigger than the one under the hps/cfls... its like i've got a bit of a runt with the slower one, she's still working on second set of leaves while the other has them out and is starting on the third!
Feeding begins one week today, Monday 29th. Hopefully bulbs will arrive today and I can get the bigger stronger one under an hps as well, see how it likes that.
Feeding begins one week today, Monday 29th. Hopefully bulbs will arrive today and I can get the bigger stronger one under an hps as well, see how it likes that.
