firetech89
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Looks really really good. I'm in! Do you have charcoal filters or Oni? Would help with the odor.
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doob
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Thanks. I have carbon filters with 4" systemair fans run off a variac controller. I usually use Rhino filters, I have brought a cheap pair to test, so far them seem ok. The UK cheese would get through any filters a bit, and when you open the door and work with the product it would stink out the street where i am for sure!!
doob
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Been feeding 1.5ml/l A&B, 4ml/l Rhizo 6.0-6.2pH @ 19-20degC for 3 days. Ambient temps have been a high of 7degC, but these are still going well on the seedling mat.
I have now split them into the 2 tents. Forgot to mention that the lights are on 24/0. The C99 are now under a 250w Omega propar metal halide, decent spectrum
The other tent setup the same, on a box with tube heater beneath and seedling mat.
C99 on Day 20. These need potting up for better growth but I am trying to hold out as I don't want to flip these for 2 weeks.
Dragon Fruit Day 13. First time I have used these red cups, I much prefer the plant pots all though I like the higher sides for watering. DF#12 has recovered well so all 12 DF are looking good, as are the 2x RP Tangies.
doob
I have now split them into the 2 tents. Forgot to mention that the lights are on 24/0. The C99 are now under a 250w Omega propar metal halide, decent spectrum
The other tent setup the same, on a box with tube heater beneath and seedling mat.
C99 on Day 20. These need potting up for better growth but I am trying to hold out as I don't want to flip these for 2 weeks.
Dragon Fruit Day 13. First time I have used these red cups, I much prefer the plant pots all though I like the higher sides for watering. DF#12 has recovered well so all 12 DF are looking good, as are the 2x RP Tangies.
doob
JohnKimble
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Your place has a modern and clean feel to it. I like it.
doob
Member
Thank you
I am always cleaning everything with 99.9% IPA diluted with deionised water maybe 1:10. So far that has kept any nasties out, touch wood!
firetech89
Active member
Those girls look all nice and strong and healthy.
doob
Member
Yeah they are doing quite well considering tent temps have been as low as 14-16degC! The seedling mats working very well for me out here.
Here is how i feed to waste, on a plastic milk crate which fits perfectly in this tray.
C99
DF
Both fed again, DF being done daily now as well. Same ml/ph as before.
Just dropped the light down a bit, so the metal halide is 18 inches from the canopy of the C99. The bulb is still in the same reflector, both tents have the Sun Mate PowerPlant the entire grow, i have plug adapters so can use both CFL and MH/HPS. The small circulation fans i use are Garden Highpro 8 Inch.
Leaf temp a comfortable 21degC
doob
firetech89
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I wish I could have set up some type of d2w. Every time I need to flush I use a piece of tube and mouth siphon the water from the drain pan to a bucket. A thought I'm having is to apply a coat or two of resin to my cabs bottom and a few inches up the wall to waterproof it and notch my door and install a drain tube. Still debating it the good old mouth siphon works if you don't mind the taste of nute water lol
chronosync
Well-known member
Damn you don't wanna do that! ? What tastes worse GH nova or Earth Juice?
Get another drain pan or mop bucket and swap em out or something.
A flood table or concrete mixing tray would be the best if it fits where you need it.
Looking spot on sir!
I notice your having to move the plants in and out in order to feed to waste.
Will you be using the same method when you hit flower? or do you have intentions to go automated.
I use to do something similar, however i found it a ball ache during the flowering stage having to move them in and out, i got over this problem by placing 4 x 1.2 square garland trays in there (using 2.4 square tent) after feeding the girls i would be left with roughly 3/4 inch of waste in each tray this would be then sucked up using a pondovac which would take roughly 5 min per tray....
I would like to go automated, but most set ups i have looked at do not fit my space especially the reservoir, its quite tight for space as the tent practically takes up the entire bedroom space.
Any ways onwards and upwards mate, and all the best with the rest of the show.
I notice your having to move the plants in and out in order to feed to waste.
Will you be using the same method when you hit flower? or do you have intentions to go automated.
I use to do something similar, however i found it a ball ache during the flowering stage having to move them in and out, i got over this problem by placing 4 x 1.2 square garland trays in there (using 2.4 square tent) after feeding the girls i would be left with roughly 3/4 inch of waste in each tray this would be then sucked up using a pondovac which would take roughly 5 min per tray....
I would like to go automated, but most set ups i have looked at do not fit my space especially the reservoir, its quite tight for space as the tent practically takes up the entire bedroom space.
Any ways onwards and upwards mate, and all the best with the rest of the show.
doob
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Thanks
Thank you!
I ran blumats for 3 grows previously, didn't like them AT ALL (will post pics of the setup later). I hate not having full control and guessing, all plants were always setup differently and at different levels of moisture, forever messing around with them. I got more hassle and the same/less yield in my plants using this method. I am an engineer by trade, I tried every calculated combination to make them work and finally gave up
I don't want to use pumps because of where it is located, so hand watering all the way. There are other reasons why I prefer this method. 1/ I like pulling them out inspecting them as things go undetected under the HPS, I have had issues when I left them in which should of been picked up and resolved much earlier. 2/ I defoliate a lot, so it is obviously much easier to get them out. 3/ As they crammed in a small space under such a small penetrating bulb, I like spinning them around and moving their positions so each angle of the plant gets light. 4/ I usually only have 4 plants per tent so it isn't exactly hard work, takes 5 mins to feed and check them over.
I was tempted to get flood tables, but I need to make sure each plant is the same canopy height in flower so pots will be raised up. It would also mean keeping the reservoir the correct EC, pH and temperature, which is MUCH more hassle than the way I have it set up. During flower I add 2 pipettes of pH down to the mix and that's it until the bucket is gone. I don't even use meters in flower at all, so its so easy I doubt I will ever change my ways. I like things to be bang on, but also as easy as possible
Yes, it seems the blumats are a hit and miss. I did a bit of reading up on them initially and personally did not take to the concept of them, i think they would be fine for tomatoes / chillies etc if you had to go of for a few days.
Having 4 plants to take in and out is fine, i would have 4-5 per tray which makes the task at hand that little bit more awkward, especially on a daily basis once they hit flower mode.
Its a bit of a squeeze in there, and i can only access them from 2 sides of the tent....
I like the infrared thermometer you have, (hand bit of kit) especially for leaf temps as you mentioned. Have one on my wish list. No need to change your ways either, as it looks like you are on top of every thing, creatures of habit we are mate...
Having 4 plants to take in and out is fine, i would have 4-5 per tray which makes the task at hand that little bit more awkward, especially on a daily basis once they hit flower mode.
Its a bit of a squeeze in there, and i can only access them from 2 sides of the tent....
I like the infrared thermometer you have, (hand bit of kit) especially for leaf temps as you mentioned. Have one on my wish list. No need to change your ways either, as it looks like you are on top of every thing, creatures of habit we are mate...
JohnKimble
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I use a thermometer gun too to scan the top of the canopy to see if lights are too close and making the leafs temps go past 80F, its better then guessing.
Seems the ones i am looking at on line vary in price from 50-300,
What did you guys pay?
Regarding canopy level, after the initial stretch 21-28 days i like to get the lights as high as the tent allows, "over lap the Lumens so to speak"
This is a very interesting topic on it, "calculating with micromoles, Lumens for humans"
Go to the last paragraph which goes in to detail, hope you dont mind me putting up the link doobs..
http://www.gavita-holland.com/index.php/item/lumens-are-for-humans.html
JohnKimble
Member
I think I paid something like 20 dollars for mine on amazon. Micromole meters are like co2 meters, their pretty pricey. No cheap chinese ones out there yet..
doob
Member
I got mine from fleabay for £7, works fine. I have expensive fluke ones for my job and it works as good!
Post away! Interesting little link, I moved from a lumii euro open reflector to the closed ones as I got better results in the head to head. I only buy decent spectrum lamps, I use a dual spec hps for flower. Buy bulbs which are for growing plants rule of thumb, I have tried standard cfl, led, hps, mh and none worked as good.
The only change I can see coming to my grooms now is white full spectrum LED's. But that's a way off yet. It would be nice to have side lighting as well, I imagine once I go LED I can have more light penetration from above, additional side lighting and all for same electricity watts, and potentially a slightly improved yield. Only issue is usually I need the heat from the inefficient HPS haha
Post away! Interesting little link, I moved from a lumii euro open reflector to the closed ones as I got better results in the head to head. I only buy decent spectrum lamps, I use a dual spec hps for flower. Buy bulbs which are for growing plants rule of thumb, I have tried standard cfl, led, hps, mh and none worked as good.
The only change I can see coming to my grooms now is white full spectrum LED's. But that's a way off yet. It would be nice to have side lighting as well, I imagine once I go LED I can have more light penetration from above, additional side lighting and all for same electricity watts, and potentially a slightly improved yield. Only issue is usually I need the heat from the inefficient HPS haha
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doob
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Time to pot up the C99, i cant leave it any longer. It is drying out too much between feedings, roots are still nice.
Normally i pot up into 6.5 litre square pots, this time i am experimenting with 2x different 3 litre round pots.
C99 potted in the shorter wider pots
All fed 1.5ml/l A&B 2ml/l Rhizo (only 2ml because I am running low), pH 6.0 @ 19degC.
I have lowered the metal halide on the C99 to 13-14 inches above canopy level.
doob
Normally i pot up into 6.5 litre square pots, this time i am experimenting with 2x different 3 litre round pots.
C99 potted in the shorter wider pots
All fed 1.5ml/l A&B 2ml/l Rhizo (only 2ml because I am running low), pH 6.0 @ 19degC.
I have lowered the metal halide on the C99 to 13-14 inches above canopy level.
doob
