Captain Red Eye
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does money exist?
does math exist?
do the words "time travel" exist?
seems social contract only "exists" as long as we agree it does, like money (fiat currency, for the pedantic, yes 'fed' dollas)
Does money exist?
I'd need to know more about how you define "money", but I'd say it exists. I'll spare you the reasons why, this time. Besides, you already swung and missed once, when you alluded to federal reserve debt notes as money. rather than as a fiat currency.
Does math exist?
Yes math exists, it's an abstract thing, but refers to an easily observable concept. It has established and verifiable rules that are usually consistent and demonstrable, unless...it's government. They're not very good at math and don't follow the rules. Math cheaters.
Glad you brought math up, let's use math to prove something.
For example, let's say you nor I have any right to do X .
That nonexistent right would be expressed as zero, as in "zero right" to do something.
By using math / logic we know we can't take our individual zero right to do X and add them both together and come up with a positive sum. Even if thousands of other people all having the same zero right to do X as us, add all their "zero right" with our zero right, we would still come up with zero, as in "zero right" to do X.
If you as an individual don't have a right to force people to pay for your ideas if the other person is a disinterested peaceful person, you can't delegate that nonexistent right to other people claiming to be "society" or "government". Nor could you delegate it even if they're lying that they have an invisible "social contract" in their pocket which they can't show you or provide evidence you as an equal individual agreed to. It would be mathematically impossible.
Government doesn't care. They declare they can make 0+0+0 equal a positive sum. They're lying and they suck at math. Maybe that's why they're trillions in debt ?
Do the words time travel exist?
Yes, you wrote them and I wrote them. Words came into existence through something called language, where people made sounds which were associated with things, later as language became more abstract words were assigned to concepts.
The important thing about words, if they are used honestly, they don't mean one thing if you or I perform a given action, but the meaning shifts if another entity does the exact same action. Words to have meaning are affixed to an action or concept.
Who would call murder "collateral damage" ? Who would call an unsigned, not agreed to concept a "contract" when there is no actual mutual agreement? Who would call forcing a person into a relationship they don't want to be part of, "protecting" them? Hmmm.
Social contract exists if we agree it does?
Yes, contracts in order to be a contract, require the involved individuals to agree to something or agree to a set of terms. Failing to achieve agreement, means there is no contract.
If I claim I have a contract which obligates you to do X and I claim it's a contract which binds you, but you never saw it, signed it or agreed to it, it would not be a contract.
Even a government court hearing a dispute between us would not consider that we have a contract . They'd laugh at you. Then they train you to use terms like "social contract" as arguments and rationalizations for their own contradictory behaviors. That's not very nice.
It's almost like they're cheating in matters of actual money, meanings of words, math, and things which create contracts, when these things are applied to them. Well, not really "almost", it's the modus operandi.
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