small but sad update on my cloner. bought the cap controller for it as those following the thread know and went 0/40 clones. first two runs i had at least 60-70% success rate. I attribute this to water temps. the cloner sat on the concrete floor this time and I think this variance hurt me. Also the pump never ran long enough to heat the water up. I had it on 15 on 15 off. i did clean it out between runs and just need to do some more experimenting with it. may go back to old timer and just be out the money for the cap or use it somewhere else. I need to really figure this out though because I was banking on those 40 clones. hurts now but will only lose 1-3 out of my 11 females unless a reveg works after flower. wish me luck for a reveg folks. peace and always smoke