@blazeoneup - They get better the round after seed too, so, there is a lot that needs to be ran here a second time to have any real opinion. I appreciate the kind words - these next couple of weeks are the most fun. I think the room will likely be empty by 77 days. But yeah, definitely found some nice plants. There are still 3 phenos of Mochiesel yet to be flowered. 
@unclefishsticks - they certainly are more mobile in terms of setup and take down and you don't have to worry about the bulbs getting messed up. The 2 year replacement of a CMH is part of what sold me on them over using traditional HID. The LED offer and even great life span in that regard.
@Safe Gardener - Thanks for the kind words. Home stretch now - plants are starting to hit senescence it would seem.
@chuckyoufarley - Karma G breeds the fire for sure. Very telling seeing as I'm messing with new lights and new genes under an "odd" spectrum - the plants are still coming out fire. Hard to mess these genetics up.
@Lester Beans - Correct. Soil is amended and then watered in. Plants are put in place 2-3 days later. Nothing but water only from that point forward. This is the third round in this mix - all seems well so far. I'm seeing a bit of calcium deficiency as these finish, so maybe I need more available calcium for chem/diesel lines. It's clear the London Loud #2 wants to be bigger than it currently is. Thanks for the good vibes.
@genetic freaked - Not hiding #2 - it's just starting to be worth looking at. She is maturing slower than her siblings. Looked leafier at first, but is filling out and frosting up nicely now. The Mochiesel #9 is the big surprise for me. I was expecting another sort of genetic cookie hybrid and this is anything but that. The resin field density is present for sure, but these are very short stalked, very small trich heads - more indica stalks with sativa type glands. The flowers are stacked and toss small leaflets like a kush but are forming large calyxes a bit more like a diesel. It's really a pretty plant with so much to like about her. It's a Sour Doughy Cookie Kush - don't know what else to call it. Can't wait to watch her finish up myself! If she smokes, I'm going to mono crop her without question.
Her flower structure and stack really reminds me of the one Brotherhood OG #4 from years ago. LOVED the way that plant grew but never got to run it a second time. This Mochiesel #9 isn't getting away from me. I think she'll be the plant that gives me 2# per cycle in this rig.
@Nickman - they aren't as big as CMH flowers - but I'm am impressed given there is only 400w of power in use. I don't see much more than 10-12" max canopy depth with these lights as far as true cola production - the quality certainly seems to be there.
I have the other half of the room to show yet - if you remember, I planted another round of 16 clones that was 3 weeks behind the first set. I've kept both lights at an even height - which the second half of the room, the lights are about 28" above the canopy. The difference in flowers is quite telling, but not in anyway disappointing. It sort of goes back to what I've said in the past - it is possible to have flowers that are too dense, and in doing so, you reduce resin field density. If you have a pheno that can fill in the gaps in a slightly less dense floral cluster with resin and trichs, you will have a more potent flower, albeit, not as hefty on a scale.
I'll be able to show the difference in this rather easily, because there are cuts of London Loud #2 in both halves of the room. Can't wait to run the Mochiesel #9 under CMH.
@Dr. Watt - Thanks for tuning in! The Sour D Bx2 male Karma G used certainly brings the Sour Diesel traits to the forefront of these crosses. Either in flower structure or in terp profiles. Oddly, the Mochiesel, is the most "sour" smelling plant in the room currently.
@Chili_Berkster - Thanks for the good vibes, brother. They are all turning out to be lookers in one way or another, that is for sure. Good looking plants for a seed run. This soil bed feels like cheating a little bit. Even with the other changes, the soil staying a constant really gives me confidence in it's performance going into each round.
In the end, it's going to be 100% about how they smoke. The Loud's are all quiet similar with just nuanced differences.
@moses wellfleet - Thanks for the affirmation. I hoped it would live up to such a grand title.
@FlaDankster - Thanks for the kind words!
@MarsHydroLED - Thanks! Let's hope I can get the same sort of results when it comes time to try your EpiStar 160 in the same space!! Glad you are tuned in.
@Heady Blunts - Hey, F.A.M. - nothing but respect to you. These lights are certainly good enough to let me identify winning phenos from seed runs without any real skepticism involved. That Mochiesel #9 is a true keeper if she manages to smoke as good as she looks. I don't think that will be a problem.
Her trichs are turning cloudy. Some clear left, some at half transition. Not a single amber to be seen yet though. She really does seem to want a full 70-77 days.
@Mattbho - Thanks for the good vibes! They seem to be producing a quality flower. I see no reason to retire them and let them collect dust. They give me reason to expand flowering space if nothing else. I'm still going to run some CMH in another space. I don't have a dimmer, but I can raise the lights a bit more. I'd suggest you go the extra mile and do the full mix I've posted in this thread and at the end of the soil sticky. I'm loving the results it produces.
Much love and good vibes to everyone following along. It's time for the home stretch on these testers. Even before the smoke test - if you want some quality phenotypes from seed, I can say without question, go snag some of Karma Genetics latest Sour D Bx2 crosses. Winners to be found.
dank.Frank
@unclefishsticks - they certainly are more mobile in terms of setup and take down and you don't have to worry about the bulbs getting messed up. The 2 year replacement of a CMH is part of what sold me on them over using traditional HID. The LED offer and even great life span in that regard.
@Safe Gardener - Thanks for the kind words. Home stretch now - plants are starting to hit senescence it would seem.
@chuckyoufarley - Karma G breeds the fire for sure. Very telling seeing as I'm messing with new lights and new genes under an "odd" spectrum - the plants are still coming out fire. Hard to mess these genetics up.
@Lester Beans - Correct. Soil is amended and then watered in. Plants are put in place 2-3 days later. Nothing but water only from that point forward. This is the third round in this mix - all seems well so far. I'm seeing a bit of calcium deficiency as these finish, so maybe I need more available calcium for chem/diesel lines. It's clear the London Loud #2 wants to be bigger than it currently is. Thanks for the good vibes.
@genetic freaked - Not hiding #2 - it's just starting to be worth looking at. She is maturing slower than her siblings. Looked leafier at first, but is filling out and frosting up nicely now. The Mochiesel #9 is the big surprise for me. I was expecting another sort of genetic cookie hybrid and this is anything but that. The resin field density is present for sure, but these are very short stalked, very small trich heads - more indica stalks with sativa type glands. The flowers are stacked and toss small leaflets like a kush but are forming large calyxes a bit more like a diesel. It's really a pretty plant with so much to like about her. It's a Sour Doughy Cookie Kush - don't know what else to call it. Can't wait to watch her finish up myself! If she smokes, I'm going to mono crop her without question.
Her flower structure and stack really reminds me of the one Brotherhood OG #4 from years ago. LOVED the way that plant grew but never got to run it a second time. This Mochiesel #9 isn't getting away from me. I think she'll be the plant that gives me 2# per cycle in this rig.
@Nickman - they aren't as big as CMH flowers - but I'm am impressed given there is only 400w of power in use. I don't see much more than 10-12" max canopy depth with these lights as far as true cola production - the quality certainly seems to be there.
I have the other half of the room to show yet - if you remember, I planted another round of 16 clones that was 3 weeks behind the first set. I've kept both lights at an even height - which the second half of the room, the lights are about 28" above the canopy. The difference in flowers is quite telling, but not in anyway disappointing. It sort of goes back to what I've said in the past - it is possible to have flowers that are too dense, and in doing so, you reduce resin field density. If you have a pheno that can fill in the gaps in a slightly less dense floral cluster with resin and trichs, you will have a more potent flower, albeit, not as hefty on a scale.
I'll be able to show the difference in this rather easily, because there are cuts of London Loud #2 in both halves of the room. Can't wait to run the Mochiesel #9 under CMH.
@Dr. Watt - Thanks for tuning in! The Sour D Bx2 male Karma G used certainly brings the Sour Diesel traits to the forefront of these crosses. Either in flower structure or in terp profiles. Oddly, the Mochiesel, is the most "sour" smelling plant in the room currently.
@Chili_Berkster - Thanks for the good vibes, brother. They are all turning out to be lookers in one way or another, that is for sure. Good looking plants for a seed run. This soil bed feels like cheating a little bit. Even with the other changes, the soil staying a constant really gives me confidence in it's performance going into each round.
In the end, it's going to be 100% about how they smoke. The Loud's are all quiet similar with just nuanced differences.
@moses wellfleet - Thanks for the affirmation. I hoped it would live up to such a grand title.
@FlaDankster - Thanks for the kind words!
@MarsHydroLED - Thanks! Let's hope I can get the same sort of results when it comes time to try your EpiStar 160 in the same space!! Glad you are tuned in.
@Heady Blunts - Hey, F.A.M. - nothing but respect to you. These lights are certainly good enough to let me identify winning phenos from seed runs without any real skepticism involved. That Mochiesel #9 is a true keeper if she manages to smoke as good as she looks. I don't think that will be a problem.
Her trichs are turning cloudy. Some clear left, some at half transition. Not a single amber to be seen yet though. She really does seem to want a full 70-77 days.
@Mattbho - Thanks for the good vibes! They seem to be producing a quality flower. I see no reason to retire them and let them collect dust. They give me reason to expand flowering space if nothing else. I'm still going to run some CMH in another space. I don't have a dimmer, but I can raise the lights a bit more. I'd suggest you go the extra mile and do the full mix I've posted in this thread and at the end of the soil sticky. I'm loving the results it produces.
Much love and good vibes to everyone following along. It's time for the home stretch on these testers. Even before the smoke test - if you want some quality phenotypes from seed, I can say without question, go snag some of Karma Genetics latest Sour D Bx2 crosses. Winners to be found.
dank.Frank
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