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Defoliation: Hi-Yield Technique?
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Do the pics look wrong to you?
BTW... I said "more THAN what" not "more of what".
The reply "more beer" is a silly answer to "more than what"
watch:
More than what?
more beer.
see how silly that is?
bud, obviously... but...... More bud than what?
than he imagined he'd have gotten otherwise?
Than he'd been getting?
Than he'd have gotten culling the lowers?
Let's see something quantifiable, eh... No I don't accept "trust me it works" when I've seen otherwise and know better.
beer
what a useless reply "more beer"
No I actually got more than every other grow in the same tent, with the same plants. I have tried every method under the sun, and in a few days I will prove to you and everyone else how much more BUD I have this round. BTW I culled the lowers and only defoliated in Flower.
And to top it off, I think everyone will be really impressed since I also dropped my Smart Pots down a size to 1 Gal. That was the only change, besides defoliating. So I increased my yield, by alot, with half the Coco. Using a smaller Smart Pot is surely not the reason for the increase yield. Using a 400 watt HPS in a small tent has never given me these results.
And to Gr3atfulH3ad: I have Casey Jones and find no need to defoliate due to its structure. Fat ass buds and no wasted material every time... even if I don't cull the lowers.
and to slowandeasy... some strains show a vigorous response to restricted root growth space
And to you...Smart Pots trim the roots, so they are not restricted. And I have been growing the same strains for a very long time, I know how they grow.
I always cull my lowers, and the plant defoliates itself as it needs to in flower, though as I've stated already, I do tuck fans below any branch they shade. I also LST my canopy so that not much light hits the floor.
Over the years of trying many different techniques (back when I started, you'd read to put nails through the stem, and all sort of craziness) the way I do things now works best for me.
Never seen any benefit from removing healthy leaves, and I have played around with doing so, before I decided on tucking instead.
I do cull my lowers, but if your light does not penetrate far enough...you will still have worthless material. Less light equals less bud, no matter what you say.
Ding Ding Ding, you hit the nail on the H3ad! What works for you...works for you! There should be no argument. What kind of lights do you use? If I were to guess you have 1000 watters, The bigger the light, the more penetration. For people with small spaces and small lights, a different method maybe more effective for them.
"if your light does not penetrate far enough" is not a situation I allow to occur. If the branch is close enough to the light to make a good bud, it is not shaded, due to tucked fan leaves. If the branch is not close enough to the light to make good bud, it is culled. My entire floor is shaded by cannabis plant.
I don't understand how you figure I have less light.
so it doesn't work then?
or does it?
lol
or does it?
lol
I was saying I have less light than you. A 400 watt HPS will not penetrate as far as a 600 or 1000. So for those of us with a smaller lights are already behind in penetration vs a bigger light. When I do not defoliate, no matter what...the bottom of my tent is very shaded by all of the foliage. Once I defoliate, the bottom of my tent GLOWS. This is getting light to places never seen before, tucking would not do shit in a small tent....I have tried it many times.
So your hair isn't down to your knees because you trim it. The growth of your hair is restricted.
If the smart pots trim the roots, then they are DEFINITELY restricting the growth of your roots.
Smaller smart pot, more restricted roots.
DUH.
You can't go around trying to find scientifically substantial data when you change multiple variables. Everything has to be controlled as much as possible to be the same except for the variable being tested.
Scale it up and it could work for bigger spaces as well. But that's common sense so better to ignore it.
why would you want more light hitting the floor?
I want something that photosynthesizes blocking light from everything that doesn't.
Light is seen differently by human than plants. Light which seems shaded or blocked is actually just the light the plant is absorbing. It doesn't matter if its absorbed at the top or the bottom as long as the plant gets it.
The light reaching the actual bottom of your grow is really wasted, diffused, inefficient light.
Think about the Amazon jungle, where the tree canopy blocks almost all direct lighting. There are still plants and animals that thrive because light rays penetrate much deeper than we see with our eyes.
I know you did, which is a lot more than most of the other people who do not believe it works. You can spit all the knowledge in the world about what a plant is supposed to do and how it works. I know the same info as you. People used to think the world was flat, until someone had the balls to prove everyone wrong.
By doing this I had ZERO negative effects and all POSITIVE. Plucking the leaves did nothing....except increase my yield!
did I say that it could not work, or that it might mot be the best way to accomplish a thing which could be accomplished many ways?
As far as it being common sense... not all things in the model scale equally or even proportionately, so it is not as common sense as one who does not take everything into consideration might imagine it to be.
Under a bank of 1000s, the plants are getting light from so many directions nothing is really shaded. Where is the potential benefit of a leaf massacre?
That has to be the dumbest thing I have read in a long time! Have you even ever grown before?
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