Defoliation: Hi-Yield Technique?

[buddin_904]

^ yes do it again now if they look like they need it, thats what it sounds like from your post.....

 

[TanzanianMagic]

Hi KOG

Hi KOG

Maybe they need more P.

I am a great admirer of your videos.

I'm in the process of giving them as much P as they can handle. I'm growing outdoors, and this summer has been rainy, so some days they'll grow fast.

 

[ShroomDr]

quick question.
...defoliated from 6" high.
...they have at least a 10 to 15 more branches then i ever had
...look great.

...havent touched them for almost a week and a half and there just bushier then hell.

Youve came so far, dont stop now. You want the budsites to get as direct light as possible. Just keep it up, remove fan leaves, not growth tips.

 

[Bob-Hope]

If those aren't in flower yet they should have been some time ago...

^^^^^should i be worried by this quote or is it just in reference to the size they may end up...

unfortunately there still in veg and will remain so for a further 11days,atm they piggy back the plants in 12/12 and then get 4 more hours of light under a floro,i cannot afford financially to run 2x400 grow rooms,also heat becomes an issue as well,

they will get 1 more round of defoil in around 5 days time,then will be left to grow for 5 days in a wilma system,and then they will go into flower,i intend to leave them alone for the fist 10/12 days of 12/12,at this point i intend to remove a few leaf,bend/twist most of the branches,and install some form of netting.
Bob.

 

[Natagonnaworrie]

^^ Definitely stunted growth a little. they were chuggin along very well until the defol and i haven't noticed very much growth / bud production since (just under a week).

time will tell. just saying..

 

[k33ftr33z]

quick question. I have read your whole thread and have 70 girls 1 week into flower , defoliated from 6" high. I love the way they look they have at least a 10 to 15 more branches then i ever had before and look great. question is like i said there a week into flower and i havent touched them for almost a week and a half and there just bushier then hell. So leave them alone? or trim off just a few? not a defoliation but a minor trimmiing? and after the wait do you ony trim one more time? not sure what you meant by a" subsequent leaf out for a week or so" can you explain a little. thx
did you mean "in"a week

Just like the others said, continue to defoliate as needed, whenever you cannot see the under canopy. And do not nip off growing tips. That will make them intolerably branchy.

 

[k33ftr33z]

^^^^^should i be worried by this quote or is it just in reference to the size they may end up...

unfortunately there still in veg and will remain so for a further 11days,atm they piggy back the plants in 12/12 and then get 4 more hours of light under a floro,i cannot afford financially to run 2x400 grow rooms,also heat becomes an issue as well,

they will get 1 more round of defoil in around 5 days time,then will be left to grow for 5 days in a wilma system,and then they will go into flower,i intend to leave them alone for the fist 10/12 days of 12/12,at this point i intend to remove a few leaf,bend/twist most of the branches,and install some form of netting.
Bob.

Well, judging by your other results I'll leave the veg-prep to you. Whatever you're doing is working. Still a great example of intensive prep to produce many budsites. My worry is just as you said, size and branchiness can be overwhelming so I seek a balance for manageability sake. You're doing fine, carry on.

 

[k33ftr33z]

^^ Definitely stunted growth a little. they were chuggin along very well until the defol and i haven't noticed very much growth / bud production since (just under a week).

time will tell. just saying..

The vertical growth and crowding in this case may not benefit from defoliating. Still the lower development looks decent and I doubt it would be such if this many stalks were left leafy. I would use fewer plants in this given space and try to get them branched and spread. It's a tough call when you may desire several different strains and have just so much space. I see several single stalk plants. Nothing wrong with that. I just use this technique to create branches and sites from fewer plants.

 

[darrmann]

Just like the others said, continue to defoliate as needed, whenever you cannot see the under canopy. And do not nip off growing tips. That will make them intolerably branchy.

Do i do a normal defolation or just slightl?.Is doing this going to hurt the growth in this stage? 1 week flower

 

[2-COOH]

Do i do a normal defolation or just slightl?.Is doing this going to hurt the growth in this stage? 1 week flower

try stripping it completely bare. It shouldnt hurt the growth in 1 week flower, but as said and repeated a few times, the best bet is to do this technique from a vegetative state so you might be half way there
Any pics?

 

[pearlemae]

30 days in flower, 30 days since last defoliation,66 days since planting.I will say that while it's easy when its only a few plants. I defoliated 20 5 footers last week in 5 hrs. My hand was hurtin.

 

[GoozMan]

This is my first grow, three weeks into veg from clones, looking great. I read this thread a few days ago and immediately started picking leaves, nothing major, and then noticed that the plants were getting bushier, and I would trim more, and they would get even bushier... very impressive. I'm close to switching into flower, this morning I trained everything a little more,



and tonight I see they've filled out nicely, a little too nicely.



Moisture everywhere from leaves resting on one another. So I did a hardcore defoliation.



We'll see how things turn out! I'm feeling hopeful.

 

[darrmann]

try stripping it completely bare. It shouldnt hurt the growth in 1 week flower, but as said and repeated a few times, the best bet is to do this technique from a vegetative state so you might be half way there
Any pics?

oh they have been defoliated the whole time, the point is its nott good to do unless you start in veg. You must not have seen my earlier post on top of this page. im really not to worried my partner freaked tho lol. he haS BARELY BUT 1 TIME SEEN THEM STRIPPED IN VEG. sorry didnt mean to yell .

 

[darrmann]

try stripping it completely bare. It shouldnt hurt the growth in 1 week flower, but as said and repeated a few times, the best bet is to do this technique from a vegetative state so you might be half way there
Any pics?

look Im not trying to be a jerk but you shouldnt tell people what you did me. If i hadnt known about starting in veg i could possibly be screwed. the whole post has emphasized not to start this in flower. be careful what you say is my point. its not a good thing to totally strip your plant in flower. If you dont have the branches that you form by doing this in veg you could be screwed.

 

[darrmann]

This is my first grow, three weeks into veg from clones, looking great. I read this thread a few days ago and immediately started picking leaves, nothing major, and then noticed that the plants were getting bushier, and I would trim more, and they would get even bushier... very impressive. I'm close to switching into flower, this morning I trained everything a little more,



and tonight I see they've filled out nicely, a little too nicely.



Moisture everywhere from leaves resting on one another. So I did a hardcore defoliation.



We'll see how things turn out! I'm feeling hopeful.

very nice thats just how there supposed to look in veg

 

[medmaker420]

Has anyone tested defoliation with a sog style quick grow or would that be counterproductive?

Just wondering because I will have either 30-40 girls in a 4x4 with a 600 and want as much light penetration as possible with the least branching possible..

Any thoughts?

 

[Relentless]

This is my first grow, three weeks into veg from clones, looking great. I read this thread a few days ago and immediately started picking leaves, nothing major, and then noticed that the plants were getting bushier, and I would trim more, and they would get even bushier... very impressive. I'm close to switching into flower, this morning I trained everything a little more,



and tonight I see they've filled out nicely, a little too nicely.



Moisture everywhere from leaves resting on one another. So I did a hardcore defoliation.



We'll see how things turn out! I'm feeling hopeful.

wow, thats extreme! please keep this thread updated with your pics!

 

[Bob-Hope]

@darrmann-- id be a little cautious about removing leaf just yet, if i was in your position, id wait till around day 12/14 at the earliest,it wont do them any harm to keep there leaf for a few more days.ill be aiming for around day 16/18 with mine.
Bob

 

[darrmann]

@darrmann-- id be a little cautious about removing leaf just yet, if i was in your position, id wait till around day 12/14 at the earliest,it wont do them any harm to keep there leaf for a few more days.ill be aiming for around day 16/18 with mine.
Bob

thats what I thought ,thanks for your input bob

 

[darrmann]

Has anyone tested defoliation with a sog style quick grow or would that be counterproductive?

Just wondering because I will have either 30-40 girls in a 4x4 with a 600 and want as much light penetration as possible with the least branching possible..

Any thoughts?

im not sure about the sog but unless you wrote it wrong you said 'with the least branching possible" well thats what this technique does it make it massivly bushy. So if you dont want massive branchiness dont do this.