Deep Stoner Thoughts

[PDX Dopesmoker]

almost.

Sounds like you've been to at least one Diesel convention.

That was what everybody talked about, the one I went to in SF.

10 guys with Mercedes diesels, and the Subject du Jour was how to pre-heat the diesel before it was injected, or just to keep it in liquid form in the fuel tank.

I (used to) think it would be damn cool to run a car on Smokeless powder.

UNTIL ==>

You have to deal with the fact that the fuel tank is full of Nitro-glycerin and/or Nitro-Cellulose. It has its own oxygen supply, so one little spark in the fuel tank ...

I know a guy who was an early adopter of the biodiesel Mercedes sedan conversion trend about 15 or so years ago. His was a white 380 SEL and I wanted to paint a cornfield on the front of his car with the cornstalks blowing back in the breeze and painted in a style that mimicked conventional hotrod flames, but he wouldn't let me.

 

[St. Phatty]

WHAT'S UP STONER BROTHERS and Sisters !!

I know a guy who was an early adopter of the biodiesel Mercedes sedan conversion trend about 15 or so years ago. His was a white 380 SEL and I wanted to paint a cornfield on the front of his car with the cornstalks blowing back in the breeze and painted in a style that mimicked conventional hotrod flames, but he wouldn't let me.

I think about how to decorate my truck.

Took a picture of an AR with a 24 inch bull barrel, as hood ornament.

Figure I should not drive around like that, but it might make a good picture for an ad.


I think that early 1980's Mercedes body style & mechanical parts is just beautiful.

I think they should forget about their 1990, 2000, and 2010 econobox styles and just resurrect or re-build the tooling from the 1980's.

They have the 280CE as a great example of a gas powered coupe, they got a station wagon, and they can lighten the design up a lot by replacing steel body parts with aluminum.

The interior on those is nice, totally bespoke, like a Rolls Royce, without the pretense.

I used to get nasty-grams from Craigslist because I had about 20 browser windows open to all the old Merc's & comparable BMW's. Then I got a virus and I guess my browser mis-behaved or something.

I like the 2000-ish 5 series Beemer's too. I've seen nice ones, 2005 or later with the tan leather interior, for as low as $2450.

 

[Hermanthegerman]

 

[Hermanthegerman]

Hey! St.Phatty, whats up deep stoner collegue!

 

[St. Phatty]

Hey! St.Phatty, whats up deep stoner collegue!

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I wrote 2 Haiku's -


back to the North Pole

Stoners Mixing Metaphors

OK to say that ?


Sh.t 4 Health care, it's

Destroying America

Hope you're AOK


Plus there's a German translation just for you Herman, in the "what's up today" old stoner's thread.

 

[Hermanthegerman]

There´s always this 6-7 hour gap between us

 

[Hermanthegerman]

Hello St.Phatty, I don´t know if you know it, but you wrote "are you AOK". The AOK is in Germany the "Allgemeine Ortskrankenkasse". It is a health insurance and they want that you are OK.

 

[St. Phatty]

Anybody know how many watts those painfully bright LED's on a smart-phone are ?

Wonder what the color temp is on those lights.

Sort of a philosophical sexist question to ask. Are men biologically better equipped to shake the rain drop moisture off a Cannabis plant ?

Or do women shake their business when they pee, like men sometimes do ?

 

[Hermanthegerman]

 

[Hermanthegerman]

 

[St. Phatty]

OK, a joke for the Trump supporters in the crowd -

There is a Lottery game where the pay-out in the lower tranches exceeds $1 output, per $ input.

It's called Socialism.

 

[gladysvjubb]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxyOhFBoxSY

 

[Hermanthegerman]

Francoise Hardy.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Yes please!

I'll take two.....

 

[Water-]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5531363/

The Name of Cannabis: A Short Guide for Nonbotanists

Abstract
The genus Cannabis (Family Cannabaceae) is probably indigenous to wet habitats of Asiatic continent. The long coexistence between mankind and Cannabis led to an early domestication of the plant, which soon showed an amazing spectrum of possible utilizations, as a source of textile fibers, as well as narcotic and psychoactive compounds. Nowadays, the specie(s) belonging to the genus Cannabis are represented by myriads of cultivated varieties, often with unstable taxonomic foundations. The nomenclature of Cannabis has been the object of numerous nomenclatural treatments. Linnaeus in Species Plantarum (1753) described a single species of hemp, Cannabis sativa, whereas Lamarck (1785) proposed two species of Cannabis: C. sativa, the species largely cultivated in Western Continent, and Cannabis indica, a wild species growing in India and neighboring countries. The dilemma about the existence of the species C. indica considered distinct from C. sativa continues up to present days. Due to their prevalent economic interest, the nomenclatural treatment is particularly important as far as it concerns the cultivated varieties of Cannabis. In this context, we propose to avoid the distinction between sativa and indica, suggesting a bimodal approach: when a cultivar has been correctly established. It could be advisable to apply a nomenclature system based on the International Code of Nomenclature for Cultivated Plants (ICNCP): it is not necessary to use the species epithets, sativa or indica, and a combination of the genus name and a cultivar epithet in any language and bounded by single quotation marks define an exclusive name for each Cannabis cultivar. In contrast, Cannabis varieties named with vernacular names by medical patients and recreational users, and lacking an adequate description as required by ICNCP, should be named as Cannabis strain, followed by their popularized name and without single quotation marks, having in mind that their names have no taxonomical validity.


The existence of cultivated and wild entities of hemp dates back to Dioscorides and passing from the physicians and botanists of the Renaissance (the German botanist Leonardt Fuchs was the first to adopt the term sativa, for indicating the domesticated hemp20) survived until the 18th Century, when Linnaeus in Species Plantarum8 described a single species of hemp, Cannabis sativa. Later, Jean-Baptiste Lamarck9 proposed two species of Cannabis: C. sativa, the species largely cultivated in the western continents, and Cannabis indica, a wild species growing in India.21 The taxonomic treatment of Lamarck was rejected about 50 years later by J. Lindley,22 who restricted Cannabis to C. sativa, following Linnaeus' classification, and the concept of Cannabis as a monospecific genus was confirmed in the following century. Only in the second decade of 1900's a new species, Cannabis ruderalis,23 was erected, whereas the reinstatement of the species C. indica was more recently suggested by Schultes et al.24 In more recent times, genomic DNA studies to classify C. sativa have been carried out using Cannabis varieties of different geographical origin. The results seem to suggest that a polytypic concept of Cannabis cannot be ruled out.25 In addition, chemotaxonomical markers are a promising tool to identify different Cannabis accessions and to screen hybrids, taking into account that all Cannabis varieties intercross successfully and produce fertile hybrids.26

A biphasic approach, combining morphological and chemical characters (fruit morphology and Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol [THC] content) was adopted by Small and Cronquist,1 who recognized the following four Cannabis taxa (all belonging to the single species C. sativa) that “coexist dynamically by means of natural and artificial selection”:

1. Cannabis sativa L. subsp. sativa var. sativa;
2. Cannabis sativa L. subsp. sativa var. spontanea Vavilov;
3. Cannabis sativa L. subsp. indica Small & Cronquist var. indica (Lam) Wehmer;
4. Cannabis sativa L. subsp. indica Small & Cronquist var. kafiristanica (Vavilov) Small & Cronquist.
According to the authors, both varietates belonging to the subspecies sativa are common in North America, Europe, and Asia and show a limited intoxicant potential. In contrast, the varietates of the subspecies indica have high intoxicant potential and grow mainly in the Asiatic Continent.

Recently, Small2 has proposed two possible classification of Cannabis, one based on ICP, which confirms his previous taxonomical treatment, and a new classification system for domesticated Cannabis, which is based on ICNCP and recognizes six groups of cultivars as follows:

1. Group of the non-narcotic plants, domesticated for stem fiber and/or oil seed in Western Asia and Europe. Low THC and high cannabidiol (CBD);
2. Group of the non-narcotic plants domesticated in East Asia, mainly China. Low to moderate THC, high CBD;
3. Group of the narcotic plants domesticated in South Central Asia. High cannabinoids, mostly THC;
4. Group of the narcotic plants domesticated in South Asia (Afghanistan and neighboring Countries), contains both THC and CBD.
In addition, there are also at least two stabilized hybrid groups with intermediate characters between the four groups (Table 5).



This recent systematic treatment calls attention to the still existing practical difficulties of applying the International Code of Nomenclature to the genus Cannabis. Small2 is careful in the application of the code, and this cautious attitude is the consequence of the perplexity about considering Cannabis exclusively as a cultivated plant. The studies of last two decades suggest that Cannabis, as other crops, exists in the so called crop–weed complexes, which are formed by cultivated forms and weedy forms escaped from cultivations and growing in the wild. These latter can establish new characters and are newly under the pressures of natural selection. Thus, it seems difficult to circumscribe Cannabis solely as a cultivated plant. In our opinion, an application of the taxon system to the genus Cannabis together with the sativa/indica distinction should be avoided, as recently suggested.28 Due to the prevalent economic interest of the cultivated varieties of Cannabis, a simplified nomenclature system based on ICNCP should be applied. According to ICNCP, it is not mandatory to use the species epithets, sativa or indica, and a combination of the genus name and a cultivar epithet, in any language and bounded by single quotation marks (i.e., Cannabis ‘fibranova’, to cite a cultivar largely cultivated for fiber production), defines an exclusive name for each Cannabis cultivar.

However, due to its numerous medical and recreational usages, hundreds of Cannabis cultivated varieties have been developed and named with vernacular names by medical patients and recreational users. Few of these can be treated as real Cannabis cultivars, having been regularly named and registered according to the ICNCP, but many others, particularly marijuana strains, lack an adequate description and a standard. For this reason, their names cannot be accepted as cultivar epithets. Any strain that has not been formally described as a cultivar, for example, the so called Sour diesel, or Granddaddy Purple, should be named as follows: Cannabis strain Sour diesel, or strain Granddaddy Purple, with their popularized name without single quotation marks, having in mind that their names have no taxonomical validity.

 

[Hermanthegerman]

I think, stronger than hate is the most importend.

 

[St. Phatty]

I admit, I'm a pyromaniac who is also safety-obsessed.

 

[Hermanthegerman]

The Vietnam memorial wall in DC is 150 meter, for 58000 dead GIs. If you build a memorial wall for all fallen, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Laotians, British and Australian, Canadian the wall would be 13 Kilometers.

As I saw on TV today. Just interesting.

 

[St. Phatty]

The Vietnam memorial wall in DC is 150 meter, for 58000 dead GIs. If you build a memorial wall for all fallen, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Laotians, British and Australian, Canadian the wall would be 13 Kilometers.

As I saw on TV today. Just interesting.

Israel's Holocaust of the Palestinians has taken at least 1 million civilian lives.

America's Terror War has also taken at least 1 million civilian lives.

Together Israel & the US have forced 100+ Million to migrate because their homes in the Mid-East were rendered un-liveable.

Love American Style.

 

[Hermanthegerman]

I didn´t wanted to write about Americas wars. I just found the numbers interesting.

How long would be the wall for the second world war?