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Deep State: Exposed

Hempy McNoodle

Well-known member
DUDE, you live in a FREE country, you are dancing around on the internet researching whatever the f*** you feel like, buying whatever food you like to eat, visiting whatever friends you want to visit, basically doing whatever you want to.... ALL DAY EVERY DAY.

And you worry abpout wearing a piece of paper over your nose.... you have no perspective of what situation you are in.... Orwellian nightmare :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

You are straight delusional.... you have ZERO self awareness.

Is the world perfect- HELL NO.... can things be improved HELL YES.

People like you ARE THE PROBLEM.

I hope one day you can wake up from your perma stoned haze and realize how out of touch with reality you really are.

Mandatory vaccinations are not a part of any free society.
 

Hempy McNoodle

Well-known member
Nope not american.... but we have delsuional people (Q dingdongs) who are free as a bird who think they are being controlled by the government too.

If you've got the freedom to research and do whatever you want 24/7, you are not being controlled.

Is the 'deep state' American? I thought it was an international web of pedophiles that are pulling all of our strings?

Censorship is not freedom. What the hell is freedom to you? The ability to choose what restaurant to eat at? That isn't all there is to being free.
 
M

member 505892

Mandatory vaccinations are not a part of any free society.

Sometimes in a free society you don't get your own way.... in a GENERALLY free society you cannot get your own way all the time.

Freedom is like a venn diagram, sometimes freedom for society overlaps and overrides personal freedoms.... you can't have everything all of the time, it's just the way it goes.

What YOU consider as freedom may actually be pivelege that only comes from other peoples thankless work, their sacrificing of freedom.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS TOTAL FREEDOM.
 
M

member 505892

Censorship is not freedom. What the hell is freedom to you? The ability to choose what restaurant to eat at? That isn't all there is to being free.

Should child porn be censored? Or is that just freedom?

I know, it's a slippery slope but people have to draw lines somewhere.

Trump abused power and privelege and got told to GTFOH, shit happens.

What if Trump (or any leader) told everyone that nukes were coming and no one was going to survive, so people should make their final choices and go out how you want to go out. Which caused mass suicides, murders, looting etc. etc.
And then nothing happened?

He didn't do that but he did continually push disinformation, and Twitter didn't want to be a part of it, that's their prerogative.

They gave him free reign to spill endless lies for years and eventually cut him.... big deal.... he abused his privelege.

They could have cut him earlier but they were in a moral tight spot, cut him and look like 'deep state' censorship to some people or let him say whatever he wants (truth be damned) and they look like they have zero responsibility/ accountability.

VENN DIAGRAM.
 
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Hempy McNoodle

Well-known member
Should child porn be censored? Or is that just freedom?

I know, it's a slippery slope but people have to draw lines somewhere.

Trump abused power and privelege and got told to GTFOH, shit happens.

What if Trump (or any leader) told everyone that nukes were coming and no one was going to survive, so people should make their final choices and go out how you want to go out. Which caused mass suicides, murders, looting etc. etc.
And then nothing happened?

He didn't do that but he did continually push disinformation, and Twitter didn't want to be a part of it, that's their prerogative.

They gave him free reign to spill endless lies for years and eventually cut him.... big deal.... he abused his privelege.

They could have cut him earlier but they were in a moral tight spot, cut him and look like 'deep state' censorship to some people or let him say whatever he wants (truth be damned) and they look like they have zero responsibility/ accountability.

VENN DIAGRAM.

What disinformation did Trump push?
 
M

member 505892


You really are dude.... i know you think you're clever but that question 'what disinformation did he push?' is so ridiculous it deserves no response.

I can't say every single tweet or every single speech he pushed misinformation because i'm sure there were SOME but the vast majority are just verifiable tripe, and if you aren't bright enough to be able to parse the bullshit yourself, it's going to take a lot more than me pulling up that bullshit and pointing it out to you.

I'm actually embarrassed for you.
 

White Beard

Active member
What disinformation did Trump push?
We already played this game.

Yes...we have played this game before...but since they can’t ever seem to remember anything that *isn’t* disinformation, I don’t know if answering Hempy is worth anything, since EVERYTHING *he* post is “disinformation” at best & he can’t see that.... It’s simpler, honestly, to say Trump’s a blatant, constant liar, but since folks like Hempy don’t seem to know what that means, here are large swaths of things Trump’s repeatedly deceived others about while in office or while running for office:

Everything he’s said about his brain, his genius, his skills, his training, his dick, his hands, his health, his fitness, his “way with women”, his ‘abilities’...about HIMSELF... *disinformation*

His single-minded blame of an ally (Ukraine) in support of an adversary (Russia/Putin)... *disinformation*

His constant attacks on everyone not him, not his fan, not his party... *disinformation*

His employment of Stephen Miller, Steve Bannon, John Bolton, Sidney Powell, Giuliani...for the purpose of *disinformation*

Everything he’s said about the job he did in office... *disinformation*
Everything he said about his Cabinet appointments... *disinformation*
His ENDLESS fluffing of Putin... *disinformation*
Virtually EVERY WORD about the coronavirus... *disinformation*
Every statement said on-air to Fox ‘personalities’... *disinformation*
Everything I ever saw him post to Twitter... *disinformation*
Every interview he gave on-air... *disinformation*

Lying and disinformation are related: disinformation is to deceive broadly where lying is to evade narrowly, but deliberate deception is the point of each, and deliberate deception is Trump’s principal weapon.

Hope this helps you straighten things out for yourself
 

imiubu

Well-known member
We already played this game.
Actually... no, we did not. And... it is not a game IMHO.

All that has ever been posted is conjecture and msm talking points. Not one person has posted up 1 single reliable source as to Donald's intentional dispensing of false information.

When one decides to remove all the main stream media 'sources' from their repertoire of mis/ dis information... one will find those claims baseless and in many instances... entirely incorrect.

There is a web site that actually lists all that Trump has accomplished while in office (previous President's too!). I've not once seen those referenced here... by either 'side'.

Personally, all this hooey about Trump is no different than what has occurred with each new/ old President. Folks who do not actually know WTF is going on, spreading gossip as if it's truth/ fact.

I've experienced this happening with each and every successive election cycle.

Reminds me of a game we played as children... "telephone line". First person whispers 'the story' in the next person ear and on down the line it goes. The last person repeats aloud what they were told. Never does that final telling match the original, nor does each person hear then repeat what the last has spoken in their ear WFW.
Folks will unconsciously put their own 'spin' to what they have heard.
Eye witnesses are also the most unreliable sources for the same reason, oddly enough.

It's all hogwash.

SMH at the parrots who refuse to entertain the possibility that they have been lied to in order to uphold the current list of farces that are occurring.

I suppose it's easier to believe lies than to allow oneself to realize they've been duped.

Happens all the time w/ gov't(s).

Hmmm... cannabis comes to mind for 1 single example.
 

h.h.

Active member
Veteran
Yes...we have played this game before...but since they can’t ever seem to remember anything that *isn’t* disinformation, I don’t know if answering Hempy is worth anything, since EVERYTHING *he* post is “disinformation” at best & he can’t see that.... It’s simpler, honestly, to say Trump’s a blatant, constant liar, but since folks like Hempy don’t seem to know what that means, here are large swaths of things Trump’s repeatedly deceived others about while in office or while running for office:

Everything he’s said about his brain, his genius, his skills, his training, his dick, his hands, his health, his fitness, his “way with women”, his ‘abilities’...about HIMSELF... *disinformation*

His single-minded blame of an ally (Ukraine) in support of an adversary (Russia/Putin)... *disinformation*

His constant attacks on everyone not him, not his fan, not his party... *disinformation*

His employment of Stephen Miller, Steve Bannon, John Bolton, Sidney Powell, Giuliani...for the purpose of *disinformation*

Everything he’s said about the job he did in office... *disinformation*
Everything he said about his Cabinet appointments... *disinformation*
His ENDLESS fluffing of Putin... *disinformation*
Virtually EVERY WORD about the coronavirus... *disinformation*
Every statement said on-air to Fox ‘personalities’... *disinformation*
Everything I ever saw him post to Twitter... *disinformation*
Every interview he gave on-air... *disinformation*

Lying and disinformation are related: disinformation is to deceive broadly where lying is to evade narrowly, but deliberate deception is the point of each, and deliberate deception is Trump’s principal weapon.

Hope this helps you straighten things out for yourself

Some folks believe that their goals are noble enough to spread lies and disinformation. The ends justify the means. I just block them.
Otherwise they’ll just try to spin you around and round in their circle game.
Will it go round in circles.

Or George Benson maybe?

https://youtu.be/j9W0g3NGSj4
 

audiohi

Well-known member
Veteran
The most telling lie: It didn't rain on his inauguration

The most dangerous lie: The coronavirus was under control

The most alarming lie saga: Sharpiegate

The most ridiculous subject of a lie: The Boy Scouts
"the head of the Boy Scouts" had called him to say that his bizarrely political address to the Scouts' National Jamboree was "the greatest speech that was ever made to them,"​


The ugliest smear lie: Rep. Ilhan Omar supports al Qaeda

The most boring serial lie: The trade deficit with China used to be $500 billion

The most traditional big lie: Trump didn't know about the payment to Stormy Daniels

The biggest lie by omission: Trump ended family separation

The most shameless campaign lie: Biden will destroy protections for pre-existing conditions

The lie he fled: He got Veterans Choice

The Crazy Uncle lie award: Windmill noise causes cancer

The most hucksterish lie: That plan was coming in two weeks

The most depressing lie: Trump won the election

My personal favorite lie: Trump was once named Michigan's Man of the Year
 

h.h.

Active member
Veteran
The most telling lie: It didn't rain on his inauguration

The most dangerous lie: The coronavirus was under control

The most alarming lie saga: Sharpiegate

The most ridiculous subject of a lie: The Boy Scouts
"the head of the Boy Scouts" had called him to say that his bizarrely political address to the Scouts' National Jamboree was "the greatest speech that was ever made to them,"​


The ugliest smear lie: Rep. Ilhan Omar supports al Qaeda

The most boring serial lie: The trade deficit with China used to be $500 billion

The most traditional big lie: Trump didn't know about the payment to Stormy Daniels

The biggest lie by omission: Trump ended family separation

The most shameless campaign lie: Biden will destroy protections for pre-existing conditions

The lie he fled: He got Veterans Choice

The Crazy Uncle lie award: Windmill noise causes cancer

The most hucksterish lie: That plan was coming in two weeks

The most depressing lie: Trump won the election

My personal favorite lie: Trump was once named Michigan's Man of the Year

Biggest lie to proud boys:
. We’re going to walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them,
 

Microbeman

The Logical Gardener
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Actually... no, we did not. And... it is not a game IMHO.

All that has ever been posted is conjecture and msm talking points. Not one person has posted up 1 single reliable source as to Donald's intentional dispensing of false information.

When one decides to remove all the main stream media 'sources' from their repertoire of mis/ dis information... one will find those claims baseless and in many instances... entirely incorrect.

There is a web site that actually lists all that Trump has accomplished while in office (previous President's too!). I've not once seen those referenced here... by either 'side'.

Personally, all this hooey about Trump is no different than what has occurred with each new/ old President. Folks who do not actually know WTF is going on, spreading gossip as if it's truth/ fact.

I've experienced this happening with each and every successive election cycle.

Reminds me of a game we played as children... "telephone line". First person whispers 'the story' in the next person ear and on down the line it goes. The last person repeats aloud what they were told. Never does that final telling match the original, nor does each person hear then repeat what the last has spoken in their ear WFW.
Folks will unconsciously put their own 'spin' to what they have heard.
Eye witnesses are also the most unreliable sources for the same reason, oddly enough.

It's all hogwash.

SMH at the parrots who refuse to entertain the possibility that they have been lied to in order to uphold the current list of farces that are occurring.

I suppose it's easier to believe lies than to allow oneself to realize they've been duped.

Happens all the time w/ gov't(s).

Hmmm... cannabis comes to mind for 1 single example.

Not addressed to you so you do not know what you are talking about.
 

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