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Deep State: Exposed

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Political sophistication is a construct in the field of political psychology. It concerns the extent to which a person has knowledge of political activity, assimilates information and forms political views. One of the earliest uses of the term was by Robert C. Luskin in his paper Explaining Political Sophistication (1990).

Luskin writes "Terminology varies, but the name on which the literature seems to be settling on is political sophistication" [1]

"A person is politically sophisticated to the extent to which his or her political cognitions are numerous, cut a wide substantive swath, and are highly organised, or "constrained"[1]

Political sophistication has important implications for democratic theory. Luskin wrote in 1987 "that by anything approaching elite standards, the American public is extremely unsophisticated about politics and has not become appreciably more so over the last two and a half decades" adding that "other publics, abroad, are similarly unsophisticated." This low political sophistication he argues is damaging to the "democratic ideal" as "the less sophisticated the public, the less alert to its interests, the less active in pursuit of them" and crucially "the less resistant to manipulation from above" [1]

Research in the field of political sophistication has focused on identifying the contributing factors to differing levels across public masses. Luskin investigated the effects of:

exposure - what political information they receive
motivation - their interest in learning about politics
intelligence - their ability to assimilate and organise such information
 

White Beard

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Interesting piece...I have a very different understanding of sophistication.

I learned it from my daughter: as she grew, she became familiar with words like gay and lesbian, and had a definition, but she didn’t really understand it well enough to wonder about it. She’s always been bright and well-read, and is comfortable talking intelligently with grown-ups, but her typical level of insight wasn’t there. I began to notice other things where she showed a similarly superficial grasp, even though they’re things she discusses with her friends all the time.

Historically ‘sophisticated’ was used interchangeably to identify the posh cocktail-party set (a notoriously shallow bunch even then), and those who ‘spoke above their knowledge’.

Still, an interesting article: definitions aside, I want to see what he’s put together
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Yes - indeed, an interesting piece - and holds truth in the fact that most people can't seem to differentiate between say communism and socialism - or conservativism and fascism - or liberalism and anarchism - let alone getting any sense out of what a crypto-agorist is.
 
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Storm Shadow

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Epstein is going to dry snitch on so many people ... even his big Homie Trump who Im sure he's got some gnarly dirt on.. beauty pageants and The Lolita Express..... hhhhmmmmm


Drop the Hammer Perv... beg for your life...in the USA we treat Child Abusers with the upmost respect .. 6 feet under
 

Amynamous

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You waited 2 years rubbing yourself waiting for Drumpfs arrest and that bombshell mueller report. Now crying after 2 months... #LearnToCope

Your statement doesn’t describe me, but why should it?

Have you read the Mueller report? I have read most of it. Have you? You should. I would be happy to buy you a copy if you’re unable to download it.
 

White Beard

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Yes - indeed, an interesting piece - and holds truth in the fact that most people can't seem to differentiate between say communism and socialism - or conservativism and fascism - or liberalism and anarchism - let alone getting any sense out what a crypto-agorist is.

Echoes of the Dunning-Kruger effect....
 

Thcvhunter

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Anyone watched the fall of the Soviet Union?

Gorbachev being arrested, the drama with Yeltsin.

If the fall of the Soviet Union has shown us anything, its has shown the truth of Factions within each government.

America’s government also exists within factions.

For example, CIA vs FBI.
FBI is a law enforcement agency.
CIA is the opposite, they enforce no laws and even operate in ways that constantly break laws. CIA is about as gangster as it gets. FBI views the CIA as lawless, and the CIA sees the FBI as a bunch of Brown Shirts (the Jews who policed other Jews within the concentration camps).
Yet both are parts of our government.

Lets look at our relations with Russia.
We had a faction of our government who established peace and positive business relations between the two countries.
Then Obama and Hillary worked to get us at war with Russia. We were closer at war with Russia during that Presidency than we were under Kennedy, Johnson, or Reagan.

So, one cannot paint the government with broad strokes - there’s a lot more subtleties at play.

As far as those who pull the puppet strings of our government...yes, they exist. I call them globalists. They mostly live in Montana and Wyoming. Seattle and Silicon Valley are other hotspots of globalists.

The people of the Desert Religions pulling the strings is another whole chapter.
But I will say this, you know shit’s fucked up when Israel and Saudi Arabia are allies against the rest of the world.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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I have a conspiracy theory that has crossed my mind, which involves collusion between all the monotheistic Abrahamic religions - the Catholics/Christians - the Judeans and Islam who realize that the more educated and thinking world has gradually figured out what nonsense their deities actually are, and gradually are forsaking them in droves (so many churches have closed - many converted into mosques) - so to counter that they are funding and encouraging millions of people from kinda backward third world countries to emigrate to the west - people that have been indoctrinated from birth into these religions - and cannot question or leave their religion on pain of death for apostasy -


Its much easier to control a society that dares not to question authority -


Anyone watched the fall of the Soviet Union?

Gorbachev being arrested, the drama with Yeltsin.

If the fall of the Soviet Union has shown us anything, its has shown the truth of Factions within each government.

America’s government also exists within factions.

For example, CIA vs FBI.
FBI is a law enforcement agency.
CIA is the opposite, they enforce no laws and even operate in ways that constantly break laws. CIA is about as gangster as it gets. FBI views the CIA as lawless, and the CIA sees the FBI as a bunch of Brown Shirts (the Jews who policed other Jews within the concentration camps).
Yet both are parts of our government.

Lets look at our relations with Russia.
We had a faction of our government who established peace and positive business relations between the two countries.
Then Obama and Hillary worked to get us at war with Russia. We were closer at war with Russia during that Presidency than we were under Kennedy, Johnson, or Reagan.

So, one cannot paint the government with broad strokes - there’s a lot more subtleties at play.

As far as those who pull the puppet strings of our government...yes, they exist. I call them globalists. They mostly live in Montana and Wyoming. Seattle and Silicon Valley are other hotspots of globalists.

The people of the Desert Religions pulling the strings is another whole chapter.
But I will say this, you know shit’s fucked up when Israel and Saudi Arabia are allies against the rest of the world.
 

White Beard

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Anyone watched the fall of the Soviet Union?

Gorbachev being arrested, the drama with Yeltsin.

FBI views the CIA as lawless, and the CIA sees the FBI as a bunch of Brown Shirts (the Jews who policed other Jews within the concentration camps).

I DID watch the fall of the Soviet Union, but I don’t remember Gorbachev being arrested.

And you’re wrong about the Brown Shirts: they were the SA, uniformed bully units led by Ernst Rohm, sort of the original Proud Boys, who would break windows and otherwise vandalize Jewish property, and they would fight pitched street battles against trade-unionists, socialists, and communists.

After they became a liability to the Nazis, Hitler had them all killed, including Rohm.

There were Jews in the camps who were pressed into policing other captive, true - sure they were called something...
 

minds_I

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I have a conspiracy theory that has crossed my mind, which involves collusion between all the monotheistic Abrahamic religions - the Catholics/Christians - the Judeans and Islam who realize that the more educated and thinking world has gradually figured out what nonsense their deities actually are, and gradually are forsaking them in droves (so many churches have closed - many converted into mosques) -

so to counter that they are funding and encouraging millions of people from kinda backward third world countries to emigrate to the west - people that have been indoctrinated from birth into these religions - and cannot question or leave their religion on pain of death for apostasy -


Its much easier to control a society that dares not to question authority -


Hello all,

I would agree with your first premise...totally.

As to your second premise, would that not run counter to the fervor on the right about the situation on the border? Seems in congruent.

As to your third premise....well history bears that out right? Both religious and dictatorial agents have used that to their advantage in one form or another.


I ask people I know or talk to about the border, that is we speak of it. I like to ask....what would it take for you to pick and travel 2000 miles of dangerous paths with uncertainty at the end? Being a corn fed white american, I know not of such dire conditions (There but for the grace of God.... right?) and so....lets just say the empathy I see is mostly positive but I do know some folks who are less so.

minds_I


Addendum:

Congressional Democrats subpoena Trump organization.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/08/politics/trump-organization-subpoena/index.html
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Take into account that their is much social engineering going on by the MSM and other news services - to make this all look like a humanitarian matter - rather than a population replacement matter.


The Christians/Catholics combine with the Judeans to unsettle the areas that these millions of people are setting out to find a better life from - by creating proxy wars and economic disasters within these beleaguered nations - so enticing and inviting them to flee to the west - whether because of economic reasons - or because they have to flee due to invasions/wars - so suddenly you have millions of economic migrants and millions of refugees that need to find safe haven to settle within - most all of which are indoctrinated believers in Islam or Catholicism - with a fear of some god - Most are at a very low educational level - and interbeeding amongst them has been going on for many generations - so the average intelligence isn't exactly high - making them easy to lead with superstitious medieval neo-religious doctrine - which is what they cling to as part of their 'cultural identity' when they eventually arrive in the modern and socially advanced western world...as replacements for the difficult, intelligent and educated citizens that ultimately pay via their taxes to be replaced -


I honestly believe that the three Abrahamic religions have colluded to bring this about - and it kinda confirms it when you hear of the Israeli's and the Saudi's and the USA and the UK and other western nations getting along with each other oh so well - as all of this transpires - this mass exodus of people from these relatively backward nations didn't just happen - it was no accident -





Hello all,

I would agree with your first premise...totally.

As to your second premise, would that not run counter to the fervor on the right about the situation on the border? Seems in congruent.

As to your third premise....well history bears that out right? Both religious and dictatorial agents have used that to their advantage in one form or another.


I ask people I know or talk to about the border, that is we speak of it. I like to ask....what would it take for you to pick and travel 2000 miles of dangerous paths with uncertainty at the end? Being a corn fed white american, I know not of such dire conditions (There but for the grace of God.... right?) and so....lets just say the empathy I see is mostly positive but I do know some folks who are less so.

minds_I


Addendum:

Congressional Democrats subpoena Trump organization.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/08/politics/trump-organization-subpoena/index.html
 
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TychoMonolyth

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Take into account that their is much social engineering going on by the MSM and other news services - to make this all look like a humanitarian matter - rather than a population replacement matter.


The Christians/Catholics combine with the Judeans to unsettle the areas that these millions of people are setting out to find a better life from - by creating proxy wars and economic disasters within these beleaguered nations - so enticing and inviting them to flee to the west - whether because of economic reasons - or because they have to flee due to invasions/wars - so suddenly you have millions of economic migrants and millions of refugees that need to find safe haven to settle within - most all of which are indoctrinated believers in Islam or Catholicism - with a fear of some god - Most are at a very low educational level - and interbeeding amongst them has been going on for many generations - so the average intelligence isn't exactly high - making them easy to lead with superstitious medieval neo-religious doctrine - which is what they cling to as part of their 'cultural identity' when they eventually arrive in the modern and socially advanced western world...as replacements for the difficult, intelligent and educated citizens that ultimately pay via their taxes to be replaced -


I honestly believe that the three Abrahamic religions have colluded to bring this about - and it kinda confirms it when you hear of the Israeli's and the Saudi's and the USA and the UK and other western nations getting along with each other oh so well - as all of this transpires - this mass exodus of people from these relatively backward nations didn't just happen - it was no accident -

Agreed.

The House of Saud was created by Roosevelt(the west?) with the promise of protection in return for their oil. Keep them addicted to the money and let them bury 1/3 the muslim population (Shiite).

It could also be an end run for population. Without an expanding population your economy can't grow. The countries that are bleeding people are going to get much poorer. Those with increasing populations will get much richer via a huge increase in GDP in a couple generations. It's the long game. ("Want to side with our enemies? No problem. We'll take your future.")
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Yes - this mass exodus, particularly from the middle east looks to be engineered partly - or indeed wholely by the apartied government in Tel Aviv and their cohorts in Washington, Mecca and the Vatican - with the aim of a large land grab as its ultimate result - as has been done in Israel since one of the Rothschilds was 'gifted' Palestine back in the 1920's - and they still own most of Israel -

This is all part of what some might call 'The Deep State' - which exists in secret - and has the ultimate controlling powers over just about all of us - simply due to the fact that they can control just about all finance - industry - the most powerful military and of course the media - where they can even get whole swathes of modern and educated westerners to go along with their plans - to the point of forcing them and coercing them to agree and even support their wicked aims - by utilizing their own compassion and charitable nature against them - controlling what you can say, or not say - and general scapegoating of anyone that has sussed them out, and speaks out against their well thought out, and implemented plans.


Agreed.

The House of Saud was created by Roosevelt(the west?) with the promise of protection in return for their oil. Keep them addicted to the money and let them bury 1/3 the muslim population (Shiite).

It could also be an end run for population. Without an expanding population your economy can't grow. The countries that are bleeding people are going to get much poorer. Those with increasing populations will get much richer via a huge increase in GDP in a couple generations. It's the long game. ("Want to side with our enemies? No problem. We'll take your future.")
 

TychoMonolyth

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Yes - this mass exodus, particularly from the middle east looks to be engineered partly - or indeed wholely by the apartied government in Tel Aviv and their cohorts in Washington, Mecca and the Vatican - with the aim of a large land grab as its ultimate result - as has been done in Israel since one of the Rothschilds was 'gifted' Palestine back in the 1920's - and they still own most of Israel -

This is all part of what some might call 'The Deep State' - which exists in secret - and has the ultimate controlling powers over just about all of us - simply due to the fact that they can control just about all finance - industry - the most powerful military and of course the media - where they can even get whole swathes of modern and educated westerners to go along with their plans - to the point of forcing them and coercing them to agree and even support their wicked aims - by utilizing their own compassion and charitable nature against them - controlling what you can say, or not say - and general scapegoating of anyone that has sussed them out, and speaks out against their well thought out, and implemented plans.
Chomsky called it Manufacturing Consent by the powers that be.
 

White Beard

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Honestly, I think the “replacement theory” business is just another paranoid distraction. Yes, I’ve read several things about the Kalergi plan, but I don’t see *it* being implemented as such.

It makes more sense to me to conclude that cramming brown populations into dom-White regions by supporting unbearable conditions in the source nations would provide perfect ‘justification’ for imposing authoritarian changes on society...which of course would further enrich and empower the ruling class
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Yes - straight out of the Josef Goebbels guide for the avid propogandist :

'There was no point in seeking to convert the intellectuals. For intellectuals would never be converted and would anyway always yield to the stronger, and this will always be "the man in the street."

Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect. Truth was unimportant and entirely subordinate to tactics and psychology.


A lie told once remains a lie but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth'' Josef Goebbels

Chomsky called it Manufacturing Consent by the powers that be.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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you know - everyone has a different take on what's been going on - the end result of which could easily be very inflammatory - populations have always been nomadic - and gone where the grass is greener over history for whatever reasons - I'm an old traveller myself - so have lived the freedom of the open road - and I would never want to take that away from anyone and say 'You have to stay in this place - or that place' - but mass migrations do have their problems and consequences, not only among the travellers -


From what I see around me - many of those replaced are voluntary replacements - people voluntarily move out of the area or country - because they feel like strangers in their own land - if it gets saturated by mass migrations - of so many, and such radically different cultures from their own - then nothing much seems familiar any more - and the old will always yern for 'the olden days' - and being around people of their own culture, sharing a language - and a past.
 
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White Beard

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Absolutely.

Movements of peoples in response to deteriorating conditions is as old as humanity itself and will still be when humanity breathes its last. Such movements are so massive that they would quickly escape any efforts to corral them, or even guide them...as we’ve seen.

This crisis, the waste crisis, the water crisis, the inequality crisis, our political crisis, the climate crisis - ALL are the result of pretending that making money is a good unto itself, and that hoarding money is a sound character trait, that money is more important than the consequences and the blow-back of making and hoarding it.

We don’t need to multiply entities to make sense of what’s going on.
 
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