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David Grusch - Real Deal UFOs In Gov Possession?

mexweed

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that Michio Kaku video is titled poorly it doesn't say anything about it being a Hollywood script, Michio is actually all for it and says that because there are claims that the government has an intact ship and potentially a pilot from it that the proof of burden is on the government now, he questions the existence of evidence that proves it's not human such as a DNA sample, and the newscaster's panties are clearly soaked for him
 

igrowone

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here's the first date I've seen for the begining of an investigation of the original topic
the current debate out there is a kind of 50-50 split
50 percent of some rather credible people think there's something to the claims






Luna: Lawmakers aim to have ‘bipartisan’ UFO hearing in July
UFO whistleblower spoke out earlier this month about nonhuman spacecraft
David Grusch says the U.S. government has recovered this craft for decades
Some lawmakers now want to investigate UFOs further
Joe Khalil

Updated: JUN 21, 2023 / 05:05 PM CDT


(NewsNation) — A Republican representative says lawmakers are planning a hearing on UFOs, which will tentatively be held sometime toward the end of July.

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna of Florida told NewsNation on Wednesday the hearing is likely going to be bipartisan-led and in her home state.

This hearing comes after David Grusch, a former member of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, spoke to journalist Ross Coulthart about his time in Congress’ Unidentified Aerial Phenomena task force, which was recently renamed the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, or AARO.
 

Shua1991

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Never trust a word any outward facing intelligence officer spews. They're only Interested in disinformation.

This entire thing is to drum up support for a new cold war with China in outer space.

If they claim to be ex-cia or any fed Intelligence agency, there is no such thing, unless they're found dead in a river(Google dead cia found in river) or "drowned" out at sea.
 

igrowone

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Never trust a word any outward facing intelligence officer spews. They're only Interested in disinformation.

This entire thing is to drum up support for a new cold war with China in outer space.

If they claim to be ex-cia or any fed Intelligence agency, there is no such thing, unless they're found dead in a river(Google dead cia found in river) or "drowned" out at sea.
could be a setup, been mulling that over
but I don't see how that would work
there is going to be huge skepticism and suspicion going into the hearing
a big reveal needs to happen or this guy's credibility is going away quick
 

William76

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He sez himself,he will only discuss what he's been told he's allowed to tell us , he obviously still works for the guv,this is obviously sanctioned,by who and why?,dave grulsh and the las vegas incident at the same time,seems scripted,no?,76
 

igrowone

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He sez himself,he will only discuss what he's been told he's allowed to tell us , he obviously still works for the guv,this is obviously sanctioned,by who and why?,dave grulsh and the las vegas incident at the same time,seems scripted,no?,76
agree completely, which makes it quite mysterious
who the hell is writing this script?
sounds like 2 factions in the military and this guy is running point
 

igrowone

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the Aurora incident was 1 of a number of what were called mystery airships that were being reported in the late 1800's
most were probably like UFO reports of today - hoaxes, mis-identification, and excitement sightings
people were getting caught up in the excitement and seeing what others were claiming to see
but a few were mysterious and not easily explained, which is pretty close to what we're experiencing today
 

mexweed

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Vegas seems like maybe the #1 spot for private/hobby development of flight craft be it manned or remote/drone type, and what are the chances someone has started experimenting with autonomous/AI type robots manning the crafts, I would say like Utah or Montana too but there's a lot more money and looney entrepreneur types in Vegas
 

William76

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Yea,u hundred years ago we were just getting started with avionics,bound to be airship sightings mistaken for ufos too sometimes,76
 
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Shua1991

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could be a setup, been mulling that over
but I don't see how that would work
there is going to be huge skepticism and suspicion going into the hearing
a big reveal needs to happen or this guy's credibility is going away quick
They never provide evidence, it's just religious indoctrination for people prone to magical thinking.


"Ufology" is the definition of a "cargo cult". Now who's responsible for the cargo?
 

Shua1991

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Vegas seems like maybe the #1 spot for private/hobby development of flight craft be it manned or remote/drone type, and what are the chances someone has started experimenting with autonomous/AI type robots manning the crafts, I would say like Utah or Montana too but there's a lot more money and looney entrepreneur types in Vegas
Drones have existed since ww2, spy drones were used by the soviets over nuclear test facilities, the lack of soviet patent system meant there were plenty of "science/inventions" that were unknown to americans/the west because the chokehold the patent process has in our mode of production.


Usa shoots down spy drone, discovers lightweight alloys that are "stealth" and odd electrical devices they'd never seen before(military never seized these patents, just copied them and sold them to private industry), hence the crash retrieval programs lasting until today.


There are no "aliens"
 
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mexweed

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the Skinwalker Ranch is still a thing too in Utah, the government in the form of DoD budget allocated $22 million for it, apparently some DIA guy had a "supernatural" experience there, but really who knows what kind of stuff they were researching or experimenting with there as far as potentially disrupting or targeting certain brain frequencies, the cattle mutilations could be the result of a long range stealth laser of some sort, it seems like a place where the government is able to experiment with stuff without being directly involved and without having to get any kind of congressional approval beyond funding and could have a degree of plausible deniability if it came down to it

the idea of there being life forms out there in a distant galaxy is fairly probable, but what is far less probable is that they are some sort of hyper advanced inter/parallel dimension traveling beings that are actually capable of reaching us
 
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Shua1991

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the Skinwalker Ranch is still a thing too in Utah, the government in the form of DoD budget allocated $22 million for it, apparently some DIA guy had a "supernatural" experience there, but really who knows what kind of stuff they were researching or experimenting with there as far as potentially disrupting or targeting certain brain frequencies, the cattle mutilations could be the result of a long range stealth laser of some sort, it seems like a place where the government is able to experiment with stuff without being directly involved and without having to get any kind of congressional approval beyond funding and could have a degree of plausible deniability if it came down to it

the idea of there being life forms out there in a distant galaxy is fairly probable, but what is far less probable is that they are some sort of hyper advanced inter/parallel dimension traveling beings that are actually capable of reaching us
Cattle mutilations= feds

I met someone years ago who said the whole mutilation deal was 2 parts, 1 part psyop and 1 part testing innards for cancers.

The cows slaughtered for this second purpose were studied for signs of cancer caused by nuclear and chemical waste in the food/water supply.

Skinwalker ranch to me seemed like targeted harassment tbh
 

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