Dankwolfs rks breeding project and breeding info discussion

[troutman]

I don't know of any breeder that set out to breed any smell that wasn't already present to some degree. They stumble upon them like a motherfucker but purposely create? Gotta be the hardest thing to do if it's even possible. If they did we would surly know their name. So I personally don't think there was a "skunk strain" being grown in '78 that was bred by anybody. but if there was, Sams gotta be a good bet?. Besides if these other breeders accidentally bred it out till it was gone, what are the chances they were capable of creating it in the first place.

Same with Afghani. Lots of people grew afghani. First to breed it or get seeds to the market adds the #1 to differentiate it from all the afghani being grown and traded from imported seed etc.ect.

A few weeks ago I was at a fur trapping place and looked at a bottle of Skunk odor.
I must have picked up the bottle 3 times before I left that store.

I knew if I opened it inside my place I would be screwed.

Most people are too lazy to breed and hope somebody will bring it to them.
Like, how many people in this thread area actually bred something using a
Landrace? Exactly, not many I bet.

This #1 thing is just a marketing thing no doubt.

If I made a Skunk#0 does that mean it came before the Skunk#1?

It either smells like a skunk or it doesn't.

Maybe put the right combination of Landraces in a seed breeding blender and voila Skunk.

Or you can use diluted Dutch stock and wonder why you can't get full strength.

Nothing comes easy.

 

[Dankwolf]

Pretty harsh response when tagging/quoting me and telling me to not take it personally.

Have you talked to people who were smoking Skunk before '78?
Skunk is different from Sk#1
Those who had pre-Sam Skunk say Sk#1 is a Skunk x (?) cross.
And GC have you noticed the BOEL Skunk that is coming onto market now in crosses?
Not much 'mystery' to pre-Sk#1 Skunk.
Lol, if Sk#1 was a new line, where is Haze #1, Cali-o#1, etc.

Postive energy, your way

The rks I seek was called skunk weed prior to skunk #1 or at least to The Best of my knowledge but my blood family could have lied to me .

 

[Dankwolf]

It's 2017, we are living in a time with some of the best weed in history and more variety then anyone could really fathom, why are you guys so hung up on a strain most have never grown or smoked from 40 years ago? If it was any good it would still be around.

Lol it was the best no joke .
It's been around in the past 10 years .
If you never had it then you will never I understand.

 

[Dankwolf]

I bet if you were to smoke some skunk from 40 years ago, you'd take one puff be like this shit sucks give me some OG.

I have not tried an og that could even be considered compition for the rks I have enjoyed many time's

Please don't waist your breath trying to explain why you think I have not had real og lol. Og is ok at best sorry .

 

[resin_lung]

If I made a Skunk#0 does that mean it came before the Skunk#1?

haha surprised no ones claimed that!! That would be hilarious!

Sorry Sam....Stan the Stankman bred skunk#0

Seriously though, what should he have named it?

Not an exact quote but Sam said that in the beginning, skunk#1 was dominated by rks.

The beginning is when things get named.

you begin counting with 1

0 = nothing

So his line smelled like a skunk in the beginning and if "first" and "#1" are interchangeable. What should he have named it?

To me #1 is the same as OG. #1Kush just don't sound as gangster!

 

[resin_lung]

Og is ok at best sorry .

Not even ok. But ok at best!

Not your cup of tee..... I don't say nada

Not as good as..... not a peep

You've had better...... Who am I to say

But ok at best?

Maybe it was just a figure of speech?

 

[Cannavore]

there's a reason OG still commands highest market prices... cause it's more than just ok, lol.

 

[resin_lung]

there's a reason OG still commands highest market prices... cause it's more than just ok, lol.

I agree but market prices are dependent on all kinds of things.

I really think and I'm not sure but t I think you'll agree(based on some posts I've read) , if one was the last man on earth it would be better than just ok. No hype, No sheep. Just a man and a bong, walking the earth....naked as a jay bird!

Can you imagine..... I wouldn't even squat to take a dump! Haha just shit as I walk!!!! Hahaha
Oh yeah......OGKush!

 

[Elmer Bud]

G `day RL

A- there were seeds in America that smelled like a skunk.

B- A bunch of people had access to it. Sam may have collected some from the place the hash came from or somewhere else that had similar smelling weed himself or he got it from the same place as everybody else, either way, what are the chances Sam missed the boat on these seeds?

C- It was gonna be called skunkweed or if you were fuckin cool...just skunk. No matter what. To call it anything else would be stupid.

A dude named XXXX, XXXX aka Sam .
Is quoted several times in RC Clarkes book hashish re Afghanistan in the early 70s .

Sam was in Afghanistan in 71 ?

Yes I was,
-SamS

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[resin_lung]

I'm not sure of the year exactly but pretty sure he was there. I saw a pic with Sam and his better half (I'm pretty sure it's his wife). Both were In full hippie clothes and that would place them right at about that time. But I'm not sure he wasn't there more than once. They must have looked like they were from outer space to the locals! I think Sams was throwing up a gang sign in the pic.lol maybe it was peace sign.

 

[SilverHazer]

I've read that Critical is related to skunk and pretty smelly. Might be a good place to start if you can get the clone, or if stinky examples are easy to find, from seed.

Edit: Mr. Nice makes a CriticalxSkunk, and according to one grow report in the Mr Nice sub forum, "it smells like the critter." "Took on a fruity note later on, but still stunk up the backyard real good."

 

[Tonygreen]

From anectdotal reports the RKS smells should appear in veg easily eh?

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

A lot of plants smelly skunky in veg and end up turning out way different.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

What year?
I introduced Skunk #1 in 1976, a long time ago.
I am not saying nothing was called Skunk Weed pre Skunk #1, but Skunk #1 went everywhere in large amounts, because the seeds were available in large amounts, other "skunk" Cannabis may have been made and sold, but unless lots of seeds were made they will not have the market presence that Skunk #1 had back then, remember no clones in 1976, so seeds were needed and Skunk #1 was easy to grow and maintain by seed as Skunk #1 was almost true breeding and could be grown outdoors in most of Calif. Everyone said it was to stinky growing, they did not want to attract problems.
-SamS

The rks I seek was called skunk weed prior to skunk #1 or at least to The Best of my knowledge but my blood family could have lied to me .

 

[Mate Dave]

Did you use stabilising selection as a breeding tool then Sam amongst the various techniques like GC to get the Plants with the right levels. As you say they stank because of the Terpenes you were testing for.. Because of the lack of clones what was the route to make more seeds or what is known as White label past pre basic & Breedes seeds or did this happen in Holland? How did you increase the genetic load.. What was the forward move in holland? To make it sweet?


Second thing; what were the terpene/s that you were getting in analysis on GC to make the RKS & how did you remove it, what Terpene caused it? Mercaptan?

 

[III%]

A lot of plants smelly skunky in veg and end up turning out way different.

This is true, I have seen it many times myself. Most notably with med man's rks, super skunky in veg, ended up like garlic.

 

[III%]

I like sativas too...Any other favorites that you've grown besides grinspoon? What are the genetics in grinspoon anyway? My memory escapes me.

HB.

No one knows the genetics of grinspoon. It is honestly the best sativa I have found in years. It looks pure sat, with crazy resin, my special pheno finishes in 70 days. I'll post pics in a grinspoon thread later.

I think it has since been discontinued by barneys, however they said they are in the process of remakinh it but don't know when it will be available.

 

[troutman]

Skunk#1 seeds available from Breeders Retail have potential for RKS,
but certainly not guaranteed.

Ancient Skunk #1 flopped so far.

I am very sorry and embarrassed to tell you all that after running a series of germination tests on the batch of Ancient Skunk #1 seeds we obtained from Sam, we now know the seeds are in fact spoiled and do not germinate sufficiently to sell on to you with any conscience.

Sam has also agreed to go back to his cold storage lair buried deep in a Scandinavian mountain and get more of the Ancient Sk#1 seeds from a different storage barrel, and see if we can locate the seeds that had a higher germination rate.

I wonder if this lair is going to be like when Geraldo Rivera thought he found Al Capone's vault.

I would like to see pics of this lair as I'm sure other would. I may have to build a cave also one day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P84OKTUx6LY

Honestly, I don't know why Chimera didn't test the seeds himself and try to grow one out at least before advertising them.

 

[bigherb]

No one knows the genetics of grinspoon. It is honestly the best sativa I have found in years. It looks pure sat, with crazy resin, my special pheno finishes in 70 days. I'll post pics in a grinspoon thread later.

I think it has since been discontinued by barneys, however they said they are in the process of remakinh it but don't know when it will be available.

It's quaze , if I recall the breeder/ finder had a handle here under Quasar .If I recall correctly, It was thought to be a Mexican type or pheno of nevilles haze .

There are threads here you can search


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[III%]

It's quaze , if I recall the breeder/ finder had a handle here under Quasar .If I recall correctly, It was thought to be a Mexican type or pheno of nevilles haze .

There are threads here you can search


1luvbigherb

I've read all of those threads, there is no proof to what it actually is.

The other rumor is it is reeferman Panamanian something or other.

To me it isn't outright haze it also has nothing in common with other central American sativas I have grown.

Central American sativas seem to have a similar smell and taste.

The pheno I keep actually does not look like quaze, it's not the pearl pheno.

I've grown a few so far, I had one very odd idica pheno that went in the trash, a few different sativa types, the one i keep and then there is the pearl pheno which is not very common but used to sell the seeds.

It could be quaze but there is no way to prove. My most recent run has a slight frankiscense smell to it, I smashed it to ssh and I'm growing a few of those right now.