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HIMALAYAN GOLD [aka NEPALESE x NORTH INDIAN] and Red Devil
The aromas of this plant have been characterized as a sweet and spicy chocolate and a hint of pepper. With a THC content up to 15% and a CBD of 1.4%, the high hits down and then works its way up.
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acespicoli said:
This strain is is an IBL line of a 1988 G13-Hashplant
(Aka: Mr.Nice), mostly done by NDNguy and friends with the wishes that no one profit from the pure seedline.
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Purest Indica

The Seed Banks Northern Lights #1 Description​


Logo The Seed Bank
NL #1 is a true-breeding Afghani, with extreme Indica characteristics. These are short, stocky plants, with leathery, dark green, extremely broad leaves. The stems ere very strong, and it is easy to clone. As the seedlings generally tend to grow to one main stem, this is an excellent choice for the "Sea of Green" or "Small Plant" method. Resinous, potent, and sweet, not nasty and acrid like some Afghanis. Very vigorous end cold resistant, works well outdoors with a long season.

Indoor height at 100 days: 40-50 inches.
Indoor yield at 100 days: up to 1000 grams.
Flowering period at 12 hours of darkness: 50-55 days.
Outdoor height: 5-7 ft.
Outdoor yield: 1,5-2 Ibs.
Outdoor finishing date: October 15 at 45° N. latitude.
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Hate to tell you but the 88g13hp ndnguy did was not as described there.
I had his last ten f1 seeds in 06 and did the f2 gen.
Also sent him a bunch of the f4 gen in 2012.
Still doing them today.
I have a lot of pics going back over the years here are a few.
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acespicoli

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dogzter said:
Hate to tell you but the 88g13hp ndnguy did was not as described there.
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Its all good brother, I enjoy the journey :huggg:
Glad you mentioned that,
Nevil NL1 and NL2 descriptions didnt match

Never really got into the NL a couple friends were working with it well... 1-11
so no telling what they really had NL1 N2 N5 think it was the #5 crusty and sweet
Could have been a mixture Sensi NL
Wasn't really keen on the ones I tried in the early 90's
Wanted to give them a chance again 🤷‍♂️ especially #1,2?
The '79 afghan

ndn '88G13HP and MrNice ... agree
Did those '88 get up to 13 fingers?
 
dogzter

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acespicoli said:
Its all good brother, I enjoy the journey :huggg:
Glad you mentioned that,
Nevil NL1 and NL2 descriptions didnt match

Never really got into the NL a couple friends were working with it well... 1-11
so no telling what they really had NL1 N2 N5 think it was the #5 crusty and sweet
Could have been a mixture Sensi NL
Wasn't really keen on the ones I tried in the early 90's
Wanted to give them a chance again 🤷‍♂️ especially #1,2?
The '79 afghan

ndn '88G13HP and MrNice ... agree
Did those '88 get up to 13 fingers?
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They average 11 and 13 bladed leaves generally or very small 5 bladed seems to be the norm.
 
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You got some nice looking examples :love: , and we like alot of the same genetic interest
BigSur & G13 just to name a couple, nice collection :huggg:
Thank you for taking the time to share those examples
 
acespicoli

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The PH is a strain that requires selection I worked with a friend in the USA who I gave my best seeds to he selected down 2 elite selections really elite selections he reversed both selections with STS and pollinated a number of each clones.
This is some super strong indica that yields big !

A highly coveted true breeding strain from Humboldt County,
a pre-Soviet import from Aghanistan inbred by oldtimers for over two decades.

Pungent, rock hard nugs that hit hard, producing a strong body buzz that lasts for hours. High THC , hardy outdoor strain, makes great old school Afghani hash . Mother of Herijuana.

Inside Finish Time: 8-9 weeks / Outside Finish Time: mid October/
Variation: 2 / Odor Level: 2 / Mold Resistance: 6 /
Yield: 4 / Ease of Growth: 4 / Feed Level: 2.5 /
Stretch: 1.5x
Cannabis SpeciesIndica
Flowering Time55-65 days
THC22%
CBD LevelLow (<2%)
Feels LikeEuphoric, Relaxed, Uplifted
Yield Indoors (per m²)Up to 350g/m²
Yield OutdoorsUp to 400 gr
To TreatInflammation, Pain, Stress
TasteEarthy, Pine, Skunky
Plant SexFeminized
Flowering TypePhotoperiod
CultivateIndoor/Outdoor
SizeShort
Skill LevelEasy
 
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List details to follow:

THE SEMINAL SIX DUTCH MARIJUANA SEED COMPANIES

KEY: INITIAL CULTIVAR INTRODUCTIONS
Subsequent Cultivar Releases
Imported Landraces

1979
•Sacred Seeds established in California
•Lowland Seed Co. established

1980
•Sacred Seeds: SKUNK NO.1, AFGHANI NO. 1, HINDU KUSH,
AND ORIGINAL HAZE
1981–1983

•Lowland Seed Co.: Zukke Knolle, H 12, M 7, and Ewcc-
superseeds

1984
•Dr. Wiet Exotic Seed Co. established
•Sinsemilla Seed Co. established: HASH PLANT NO.1, Hungarian
RUDERALIS, Skunk No.1, Afghani No.1, Purple Skunk,
Mazar-i-Sharif Afghani, Gold Colombian, Indonesian, Indian,
JAMAICAN, Malawi, Oaxaca Mexican, Pokhara Nepalese,
Nigerian, Panama Red, South African, and Thai imported seed;
Skunk No.2, Oregon Indica, Dutch Oregon Indica, Early
Flowering Indica Sweet Smelling, Purple Variety; Oregon
Indica, Krazy Karol and Kashroc “stabilized” varieties; Kerala
South Indian sativa x Afghani indica, Thai x Mexican, Afghani x
Mexican, Indian x Mexican, Thai x Afghani, Nigerian x Afghani,
Jamaican x Afghani, and Afghani No.1/Skunk No.1 hybrids
1985
•Cultivator’s Choice: CALIFORNIA ORANGE, EARLY GIRL,

SOUTH AFRICAN or DURBAN POISON, Mazari Afghani, INDI-
SAT and Acapulco Gold “stabilized” varieties, and Durban

Poison x Skunk No.1 hybrid
•Super Sativa Seed Club established: CHITRAL INDICA [aka
Chitral], Manila Filipino, Nigerian, Durban [aka Durban
Poison], Primo Hollanditis, Oakland Indica, The Creeper and
Khyber Afghani, Afghani/Nepali, Purple Rain, Friesland Indica,
Gouda’s Glory, Amsterdam Delight and Mexican x Skunk No.1,
Durban x Thai, Durban x Brazilian, Durban x Chitral Indica,
Chitral Indica x Tuguegaro Filipino, Skunk No.1 x Basic 5,
Pakistan x Ruderalis, Kandahar Indica, Indica x Creeper,
Kandahar Indica x Michuacan, Nigerian x Kandahar Indica,
Khyber Afghani x Nigerian Afghani/Nepali x Northern Mexican,
Afghani/Nepali x Kerala, Afghani x Malawi, Tirah Nepali x
Thai, Khyber Afghani x Kerala, and Khyber Afghani x Creeper

hybrids
•Seed Bank: NORTHERN LIGHTS
1986
•Positronics: Skunk USA, Phillip’s delight, Dr. Wiet’s Own,
Afghaan, NOI (Nederlandse Oregon-Indica Old Ed’s variety) and
Paars Purple “stabilized” varieties, and Paars Purple x Nat. Seed
hybrid
•SSSC: WILLIAMS WONDER, Skunk No.1 and Afghani No. 1,
Early Bird, Victor Baarn, Royal Dutch, Lone Ranger, Beatrix
Choice “stabilized” varieties; Afghani No.1 x Skunk No.1 and
Creeper x Skunk No.1 hybrids
•Seed Bank: Early Girl, EARLY PEARL [aka Early Girl x
Pollyanna], Early Skunk, California Orange, Indisat and
South African D.P. 34 [aka Durban Poison] “stabilized”
varieties; Early Pearl x Mazar-i-Sharif, Northern Lights #9 x
Skunk No.1, Northern Lights #? x Afghani No.1 hybrids and
a Shady Lady-Ruderalis x Afghani No.1 hybrid
1987
•Dr. Wiet Exotic: Dr. Wiet x Skunk Mix, Skunk Mix, Dr. Wiet Mix,
Dr. Wiet Purple Mix, and Dr. Wiet Kwekers Mix
•Positronics: HOLLANDSCH HOOP [aka Holland’s Hope] and
First Girl [aka Early Girl]
•SSSC: Heavenly High, Hawaiian, Pakistani, and Hoosier, Hoot’n
Hollar introduced from the U.S.
•Dutch Passion established: AMSTEL GOLD, PURPLE STAR,
PURPLE WONDER, FOUR-WAY, and Skunk No. 1
•Seed Bank: Northern Lights #1 x ?, Northern Lights #5 x
Northern Lights #2?, Northern Lights #5 x Skunk No.1,
Northern Lights #1 x Skunk No.1/Afghani, Big Bud (Big Bud
x Skunk No.1?] and Pollypak hybrids; Big Bud x Big
Bud/Northern Lights and Hash Plant [aka Hash Plant x Hash
Plant/Northern Lights #1] back crosses and Ruderalis hybrids
1988
•Seed Bank: SHIVA Skunk [aka Northern Lights #5 x Skunk
No.1], G-13 x Northern Lights #2/?, Hash Plant x Northern

Lights/?, G-13 x Hash Plant/?, Swazi land, and South African
landrace seed; Big Skunk [aka Big Bud x Skunk No.1), Haze x
Northern Lights #1/?, Northern Lights #5 x Northern Lights
#2/?, and Hash Plant/Northern Lights #1/? x Swaziland
hybrids
1989
•SSSC: Super Indoor Indica, Super Indoor Sativa, Sonora Super
Sativa and Pluton 2 “stabilized” varieties, and Haze x South
African hybrid
•Seed Bank: HINDU KUSH, HAWAIIAN INDICA [aka Hawaiian
Indica No.7 x (Northern Lights/?)], Hash Plant, Early
Pearl/Skunk No.1/Northern Lights #5 x Haze, Silver Pearl
[aka Northern Lights #5 x (Early Pearl x Skunk No.1)],
Silver Haze [aka Silver Pearl x Haze], and Northern Lights
#2 x Skunk No.1 hybrids
1990
•Exotic Seed Co.: Four Way, Royal Dutch Skunk, Four and
More, Dr. Weed Indica, Dr. Weed Indica Purple, Indica
Northern Lights
•Seed Bank: Ruderalis Skunk and Super Skunk [aka Afghani
No.1 x Skunk No.1]
1991–1992
•Dr. Weed Seeds: Amstel Gold, Ruderalis, Dr. Weed Skunk
Ruderalis, Dr. Weed Skunk Northern Lights, Skunk Indica,
Twilicht, Nightqueen, Purple Nr 1, and Purple Star
•Dutch Passion seeds from Dr. Weed: Dutch Passion Indica,
Skunk No.1, Skunk Passion Four Way Skunk, Dutch Passion
Four and More, Hindu Kush, Early Girl, South African,
Haze/Skunk, Dutch Passion Northern Lights, and Big Bud
Skunk
•Sensi Seeds and Sensi Seed Bank: Shiva Shanti 1, Shiva Shanti
2, Sensi Skunk, and African Queen
1993–1994
•Kulu Trading: Skunk No.1, Durban Poison x Skunk No.1,
Afghani No.1 x Skunk No.1, Thai landrace x Skunk No.1,

California Orange x Skunk No.1, Hawaiian Indica No.7 x
Skunk No.1, Hindu Kush x Skunk No.1, Swaziland African
landrace x Skunk No.1 and Early Cal x Skunk No.1
•Dutch Passion: Master Kush, Chitral, and Oasis [aka Northern
Lights #2]
1995–1996
•Super Skunky established
•Sensi Seed Bank: Four Way, Jack Herer [aka (Northern Lights
#? x Skunk No.1) x Haze], California Indica, and Juicy Fruit
1997
•Super Skunky - Super Widow: Bud Bunnie, Magic Crystal,
Starlight, Stoney High, Pyramid, Widow Warrior, Super
Widow’s Dream, Star Chief, and Easy Rider [all hybrids with a
White Widow male]
•Sensi Seed Bank: Black Domina
1998
•Flying Dutchmen established
•Dutch Passion: BLUEBERRY [aka Original Blueberry], FLO,
Euforia [aka Skunk No.1], Buddha [aka (Haze x Oasis/Shiva)
x (Skunk No.1 x Oasis/Shiva)], Lambsbread/Skunk, Green
Spirit [aka (Big Bud x ?) x Skunk No.1], Smokey Bear,
Hempstar, White Cloud, and Mindbender
•Sensi Seed Bank: Jack Flash [aka Jack Herer x (Super Skunk x
Haze)]
1999–2000
•Flying Dutchmen: The Pure [aka Skunk No.1], Early Durban
[aka Durban Poison x Skunk No.1], California Sunrise [aka ?
x Skunk No.1], Kabul Baba [aka Afghani No.1 x Skunk No.1],
Thai-tanic [aka Thai landrace x Skunk No.1], Dutchman’s
Royal Orange [aka California Orange x Skunk No.1], Fuma
con Dios [aka ? x Skunk No.1], Pot of Gold [aka Hindu Kush x
Skunk No.1], The Real McCoy [aka Hawaiian Indica No.7 x
Skunk No.1], Swazi Safari [aka Swaziland African landrace x
Skunk No.1], Twister [aka ? x Skunk No.1], Early California
[aka Early Cal x Skunk No.1], The Original Haze [aka

Original Haze x Skunk No.1], and Pure Thai [aka Thai
landrace]
•Dutch Passion: Holland’s Hope, California Orange, Oasis [aka
(Northern Lights #2 x ?) x ?], Orange Bud [aka Skunk No.1],
Super Haze [aka Haze x Skunk No.1], Chitral [aka Pakistani
indica landrace x Skunk No.1], Amstel Gold, Purple Star,
Master Kush [aka Hindu Kush x Hindu Kush], Purple Passion
or Passion #1, Power Plant [aka Durban South Africa], Mazar
[aka Afghani No. 1 x Skunk No. 1], Blue Moonshine, Blue
Heaven, and Original Blue Velvet
•Sensi Seed Bank: MAPLE LEAF INDICA [from Afghanistan?],
Mr. Nice [aka G-13) x Hash Plant], Jamaican Pearl [aka
Jamaican x Early Pearl], Durban Marley’s Collie [aka
Jamaican x Maple Leaf Indica], and Skunk Kush [aka Hindu
Kush x Skunk No.1]
TABLE 1. The seminal six seed companies operated throughout the 1980s, and many of their

cultivars are still available today.

Among the earliest Dutch varieties were Holland’s Hope and
Amstel Gold, which were introduced in the early 1980s and are
still available today. Although these predominantly indica
cultivars are not very potent, they mature much earlier than most
varieties, as they were bred to grow outdoors in the Netherlands.
Both were bred from selections of imported Afghan hashish
landraces.
The following eight cultivars were brought
 
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SECOND GENERATION DUTCH MARIJUANA SEED

COMPANIES

Key: INITIAL CULTIVAR INTRODUCTIONS
Subsequent Cultivar Releases
Imported Landraces

1989
•Homegrown Fantaseeds established
1990–1991
1992
•Homegrown Fantaseeds: Haze 19 x Skunk [aka Haze x Skunk
No.1]
1993
•T. H. Seeds established
1994

•T. H. Seeds ORIGINAL BUBBLEGUM

•Serious Seeds established: CHRONIC, BUBBLE GUM, and AK-
47

•Sagarmatha Seeds established
•K. C. Brains established
1995
•T. H. Seeds S.A.G.E.
•Serious: KALI MIST [aka Haze hybrid)
•Greenhouse Seeds established: WHITE WIDOW [aka
Brazilian?/South Indian?]
•Seeds of Courage established: Soma Skunk Mix seed from the
U.S.
•Paradise Seeds established
1996
•Serious: White Russian [aka AK-47 x White Widow]
•Greenhouse: White Rhino [aka Afghani? x White Widow]
•Seeds of Courage: Soma Skunks #1, #5, #9, and #10; A+,
Wide, and V
1997
•T. H. Seeds: AKORN
•Greenhouse: Great White Shark or Peacemaker [aka Super
Skunk x White Widow and Super Silver Haze [aka (Northern
Lights #5 x Haze) x Skunk No.1]
•Seeds of Courage: Northern Lights #5 x Haze
•Paradise Seeds Sensi Star
1998
•Homegrown Fantaseeds: Viking, Outdoor Green, Holland’s
Hope, Purple High, B-52, K2, Homegrown Fantasy, Shiva, Top
44, Haze, Original Misty, Super Chrystal, and First Lady
•T. H. Seeds: CHOCOLATE CHUNK, STINKY PINKY,
MENDOCINO MADNESS, and HEAVY DUTY FRUITY [aka
indica hybrids from the U.S.]

•Greenhouse: El Niño [aka (Haze/Super Skunk) x White
Widow and Neville’s Haze [aka Haze/(Northern Lights
#5/Haze)]
•Paradise: Amsterdam Flame, Nebula [aka Haze hybrid?], Dutch
Dragon, and Durga Mata [aka Super Shiva)

•Sagarmatha: SPECIAL K, EARLY RISER, YUMBOLT,
WESTERN WINDS, STONEHEDGE [aka CAMBODIAN x
WESTERN WINDS], BLUE VELVET, Slyder [aka Afghani? x
(Northern Lights/?)], Flo [aka Flow], and Blueberry [aka
Original Blueberry]
•Seeds of Courage: Haze Heaven [aka (Northern Lights x Haze)
x AFGHANI/ HAWAIIAN] and Free Tibet, Big Kahuna, White
Light, White Willow, Afghan Delight, and Citrus Dreams
[aka all from the ’97 Soma Skunk series x
AFGHANI/HAWAIIAN]
•K. C. Brains: K.C. 33 [aka (early Dutch x Thai) x BRAZIL, Haze
Special [aka Haze], LÊDA UNO [aka (Brazil x K.C. 33) x K.C.
606], SWEET DREAMS [aka (Big Bud x Skunk No.1) x K.C.
606], MANGO [aka (K.C. Special Select x K.C. 33) x Afghani?],
MIND BENDER [aka (Double K.C. 2 x K.C. 33) x Afghani],
CRYSTAL PARADISE [aka (Big Bud x Skunk No.1) x Brasil],
SWISS-XT [aka Double K.C. 2 x Mr. Swiss], WHITE K.C. [aka
Real White Lady x K.C. 606], SPONTANICA [aka Secret Project
No.1 x K.C. 33], BRASIL x K.C. [aka Brazil x K.C. 606], T.N.R.
[aka Old Thai Dutch x Double K.C. 2], K.C. 36, Cyber Crystal,
Afghani Special [aka Afghani],California Special [aka Skunk],
and Northern Lights Special [aka Northern Lights]
1999–2000
•Homegrown Fantaseeds: Purple Power and Masterkush
•Sagarmatha: MATANUSKA TUNDRA [aka Matanuska
Thunderfuck hybrid?], FLOW [aka Flo x Matanuska Tundra],
BLUE THUNDER [aka Blueberry x Matanuska Tundra], Pole
Cat, Mongolian Indica, Peak 19, and Wonderberry [aka
(Bubblegum/Blueberry) x Williams Wonder]
•Greenhouse: HIMALAYAN GOLD [aka NEPALESE x NORTH

INDIAN] and Red Devil
•Paradise: Sweet Purple, Sheherezade [aka Afghani?], and
Belladonna [aka Super Skunk]
T.H. Seeds, Serious Seeds, Seeds of Courage, and K.C. Brains also continue to sell

many of the popular varieties they developed before 1999.

TABLE 2. Many second generation seed companies appeared during the 1990s, and most of

them continue to sell seeds.

Look here and in Table 1 to find the commercial source and origin of some of your favorite

varieties.

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acespicoli

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Jason King Cannabible one Big Bud is the PNW cutting and the other is "Dutch"
Shanti has reworked the Big Bud, was just chatting with them the other day.
Im still giving SB's a go regardless of the harsh review of the Dutch BB
You know Nevil hit the BB clone with what was it NL1 pollen?
Then on another run I think he bx the clone with first cross male.
Didnt hear the cast yet will check it out soon

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Strain: Big Bud
Breeder: Sensi Seeds
Location: Indoor; below 250 Watt
Photo made at: Flowering; Day No.54
Upload date: 02.02.2013
Picture from: TeamAmadeus
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Big Bud strain is a cross between Afghan x Northern Lights x Skunk #1 ?
Supposedly the Big Bud clone is a affie x skunk or a skunk selection ? 🤷‍♂️
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::::Cannabis Research::::

This is a collection of cannabis research. Please feel free to post cannabis related articles or other research.... :canabis: Lets get some reading material together... Plenty of time to pass this winter.... :smoke: A chemotaxonomic analysis of cannabinoid variation in Cannabis (Cannabaceae) --...
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acespicoli said:
Jason King Cannabible one Big Bud is the PNW cutting and the other is "Dutch"
Shanti has reworked the Big Bud, was just chatting with them the other day.
Im still giving SB's a go regardless of the harsh review of the Dutch BB
You know Nevil hit the BB clone with what was it NL1 pollen?
Then on another run I think he bx the clone with first cross male.
Didnt hear the cast yet will check it out soon

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Breeder: Sensi Seeds
Location: Indoor; below 250 Watt
Photo made at: Flowering; Day No.54
Upload date: 02.02.2013
Picture from: TeamAmadeus
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Big Bud strain is a cross between Afghan x Northern Lights x Skunk #1 ?
Supposedly the Big Bud clone is a affie x skunk or a skunk selection ? 🤷‍♂️
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Outdoor one SCBB plant yielded 12 LB
Wet dry ???
Of all the top yielders it deserves mention, other thing huge yielders are usually mids!
Which strains yield the best ?
 
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How to select males based on possible linked traits. Can traits be partially linked?

Some of the measured phenotype traits seem to be signs of a more mature, healthy plant, which would have more potential potency and terpene content.
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Results

Correlation analysis of morphological
traits with THC and CBD. Correlations of
THC and CBD with morphological traits are
plotted in Fig. 3.



The ratio of THC is
positively correlated with leaf width/length
ratio (0.77), width of central leaflet (0.55),
final height at the end of flowering stage
(0.54), inflorescence yield per plant (0.46),
leaf chlorophyll concentration (0.42), sick-
ness (Botrytis cinerea incidence) (0.41),
stem diameter at base at the end of the
flowering stage (0.33), and weight per in-
florescence (0.32) in decreasing correla-
tions.



The ratio of CBD is positively
correlated with the number of primary ser-
rations on the central leaflet (0.52), number
of leaflets (0.44), and length of central
leaflet averaged from each node (0.35).



The traits that were positively correlated
with THC were...
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