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Crippy - Pre86 OG KUSH
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There is no way on earth to see broad mites with the naked eye. 40x magnification MINIMUM to even begin to see them. 60x to see they actually have legs and move. 100x to see the dimples on their eggs and the mites moving the eggs with their mouths...
They are the WORST pest I've ever personally encountered...I dropped EVERY plant I had. Keeper moms, breeding fathers, rare seed sorts...everything. Shut down for 6 weeks...bleaching twice a week...and super heating the room by leaving the 1ks on with no cooling.
I tried the HARSHEST pesticides I could get my hands on...and the plants died before the mites did.
They are a curse I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
dank.Frank
They are the WORST pest I've ever personally encountered...I dropped EVERY plant I had. Keeper moms, breeding fathers, rare seed sorts...everything. Shut down for 6 weeks...bleaching twice a week...and super heating the room by leaving the 1ks on with no cooling.
I tried the HARSHEST pesticides I could get my hands on...and the plants died before the mites did.
They are a curse I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
dank.Frank
its true that everything from verigation to physically damaged pistils on out to overwatered overfed clawing leaves get the bm diagnosis. its not always correct and yes bad growing ccan make your plants look shitty in ways that cold be wrongly mistaken for bms.
happens alot. sunburnt plants gettig hosed with avid in mid flower due to grower ignorance and panic.
however that doesnt mean that there isnt bms. they are a big deal out here.if you get them youre going to get past the confusion stage and move right into the hope and fear paranoia stage wasting hours staring at miteless plants seeing droplets of water pool and evaporate as if the plant had lungs thinking "is that a mite"
youll see sessile capitate trichomes and give yourself a migrane looking for the bm egg pattern.
when you look for them they are hard to see. and knowing that will make you look harder.and theres no comfort in not finding any, it only drives you further into the scope for longer leaving feeling like you failed to find what you know is there. youll lose your mind.
it will make you mad.
happens alot. sunburnt plants gettig hosed with avid in mid flower due to grower ignorance and panic.
however that doesnt mean that there isnt bms. they are a big deal out here.if you get them youre going to get past the confusion stage and move right into the hope and fear paranoia stage wasting hours staring at miteless plants seeing droplets of water pool and evaporate as if the plant had lungs thinking "is that a mite"
youll see sessile capitate trichomes and give yourself a migrane looking for the bm egg pattern.
when you look for them they are hard to see. and knowing that will make you look harder.and theres no comfort in not finding any, it only drives you further into the scope for longer leaving feeling like you failed to find what you know is there. youll lose your mind.
it will make you mad.
Broad mite damage on a plant that was otherwise perfectly healthy. ChemSour x Digi Bx1 5wk into flower:
There is no mistaking poorly grown plants for broad mite damage - there is a very distinct difference. Honestly, I don't care who you are - it is impossible to grow a plant ^^THAT^^ poorly... even the cartel does a better job with their mexi brick.
YOU DO NOT WANT BROAD MITES.
dank.Frank
There is no mistaking poorly grown plants for broad mite damage - there is a very distinct difference. Honestly, I don't care who you are - it is impossible to grow a plant ^^THAT^^ poorly... even the cartel does a better job with their mexi brick.
YOU DO NOT WANT BROAD MITES.
dank.Frank
Word, sorry to hear you lost an entire stable man, that's rough and way worse than my encounter.
It started with me with a cut of Cherry Pie. Quarantined as per my usual protocol when taking in cuts, treated (with things that don't do much for broads), quarantined more, then stuck it in with some clones/mothers/males. Left town for a bit, came back to see a previously healthy clone with obvious broad mite damage (recognized it from seeing other growers' troubles on the forums).
Snipped off a leaf and peeped it under my 150x USB scope... literally saw a thriving microscopic colony of mites. Remove scope, didn't see a goddamn thing. Back under scope, colony of cannabis destroyers... Remove scope, under good lighting, looked very, very closely and could see one, indescribably small and barely discernible speck moving toward the tip of the leaf. Threw the scope down on it and saw one mite carrying another...
For shits I check a few other leafs just to watch their behavior (grow nerd, I guess) and I could pick up this mite-carrying-mite action and then see it with the naked eye - yet barely. And this is viewing one, every so small speck moving, on a leaf that, under the scope proves that the leaf is actually infested with broad mites.
So, if you have (apparently superhuman-like) good vision and good lighting, and a scope to locate an infested leaf, then there's a possibility you could see some BM action with the naked eye, one male mite carrying his bride.
But I just wanted to clarify, YOU CAN'T SEE THEM. Please; anybody out there, just because I was able to barely, barely, barely see a little fleck of a critter-on-critter - do not assume if you're NOT seeing mites that you're plants aren't infested, if you're seeing symptoms consistent with BM damage.
Anywho, I don't have anything else to add to this nonsensical thread. This thread blows many dicks at once, thus, I'm out
didn't mean to derail thread. i'm done with the broad mite discussion here. but that mite you could see moving on the tip of the leaf. i could see with my naked eyes. not superhuman, just plain old 20/20
fuck mites
broad mite spider mites if ands buts and "i mights" hahaha
the thread topic was supposed to be about a crip hawaiian strain.
let me fix things a little.
real Hawaiian Pakalolo... true crip action
is called Dog
and it looks like this
and some Valley for poops and giggles
Maui No Ka 'Oi
broad mite spider mites if ands buts and "i mights" hahaha
the thread topic was supposed to be about a crip hawaiian strain.
let me fix things a little.
real Hawaiian Pakalolo... true crip action
is called Dog
and it looks like this
and some Valley for poops and giggles
Maui No Ka 'Oi
Sorry to be offensive but you are delusional. I sincerely hope you never experience them firsthand because with that attitude they will wipe out your entire grow. No ifs, and, or buts about it. They will destroy your entire world and there won't be a thing you'll be able to do about it because it will be too late.
Very nice. The Dog has me drooling and the Valley pic got me missing my favorite OG
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ok wait a second here. now i see room for further derailment of the most contentious nature. we are seeing people claim which og is the best, can we please get a mod in here before guns are drawn.
Broad mites fucked me up, or started to. A good buddy figured this out. Mineral oil and water. Not all plants will survive this. Broad mites can't either. I'm guessing what happens is all mites die and if new growth starts before the plant dies you win. Every leaf on the plant will look like shit. But its a means of stain preservation. And its not a pesticide or some crazy shit made by and evil company. Don't do this to flowering plants, yuck.
ThaCollieMann
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supaklown lmfao
Very Nice GS looks like the 80's sour ghanis that were around, not the sweet nagchampa creamy Ghani#1's of today
have you tried crossing it to the HP? then add some Choc Thai i bet ya make an OG lol
the Dog has been crossed with the P
And the dog is sour before there was sour is what I'm thinkin
The outcome of the breeding was a selection that goes around called Webb/P-dog/HP-dog/PD... Got a few handles but they are all the same.
And your hypothesis is correct about their potential offspring
Minus the choc Thai though
OG ish w a bit more bud girth.
It's got more of the Afghanistan structure of the P in the buds but retains the smell and flavor of the dog mom ( or dog dad - don't know whose who hahaha). It's also just as finicky as the P talk bad about it you lose 2 was of vigor hahaha
But do the high maintenance girl right and it's got the og thing in the taste plus the fruit loopeyness edge from the Dog. And the buds swell for that nice modern swole look. and it's tolerance proof. Just hard to grow right and dialed
I recently reacquainted the Webb... Not for the disinterested that girl needs attention. I've said that yeah? Haha So now she has my full attention. This time hahaha. She'll tell me if I'm going the right way or not.
Wouldn't be too hard to redo since I have THE pieces to the puzzle plus a finished puzzle to judge by. You know I have been scheming about it in my lil head hahahaha
Aloha
And the dog is sour before there was sour is what I'm thinkin
The outcome of the breeding was a selection that goes around called Webb/P-dog/HP-dog/PD... Got a few handles but they are all the same.
And your hypothesis is correct about their potential offspring
Minus the choc Thai though
OG ish w a bit more bud girth.
It's got more of the Afghanistan structure of the P in the buds but retains the smell and flavor of the dog mom ( or dog dad - don't know whose who hahaha). It's also just as finicky as the P talk bad about it you lose 2 was of vigor hahaha
But do the high maintenance girl right and it's got the og thing in the taste plus the fruit loopeyness edge from the Dog. And the buds swell for that nice modern swole look. and it's tolerance proof. Just hard to grow right and dialed
I recently reacquainted the Webb... Not for the disinterested that girl needs attention. I've said that yeah? Haha So now she has my full attention. This time hahaha. She'll tell me if I'm going the right way or not.
Wouldn't be too hard to redo since I have THE pieces to the puzzle plus a finished puzzle to judge by. You know I have been scheming about it in my lil head hahahaha
Aloha
Fuck all this supa bullshit I want GREYSKULL GENETICS to drop on the masses!!!
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StudenTeacher
Back in 2001 is when in finally came out of the closet and started using a bedroom. I had been slinging buds since I was 16 and seen about a million types, and now I finally had the homegrown top shelf, which at that time came around usually every couple months. I ordered seeds from ADam and Canada and impressed myself and my friends with the quality and consistency of non BC import or mediocre nor cal outdoors buds.
One day when I was dropping of a bag to a friend, he had company, and of course they were grinning and smoking my bomb weed. The guy that was over there was 35+ and we were youngsters, and he was telling us all kinds of stories. He was like," this stuff is great, but doesn't compare to the buds I used to get in Boulder back in the day. Still haven't seen anything that can compare. We called it DOG or DOG bud." To which my smart ass replied," before I harvested you were smoking the crappy BC buds I was smoking." And I laughed. He was living in Boulder after he finished up with Desert Storm and the first Iraq war, from early 90's until around the time we met in early 2000's.
This was before OG kush hit the marketplace in Cali and of course there was no diesel or Chem around usually these parts. We did consistently get a Hindu Kush strain for about 4-5 years (couple oz every three months) that was to this day probably the strongest I've had. After I laughed at my new acquaintance, I paused and wondered if maybe I was out of line, or just flat out incorrect in my assumption that this next level strength pot was more common than I thought. I remembered the Hindu and held my tongue after that, but of course took what he was saying with a grain of salt. A couple years later the OG, diesels and Chemdog started coming around and sure enough it was stronger than most, and it turns out that this guy wasn't full of shit after all. I guess this story helps me remember that sometimes things may seem unlikely yet still may be true. I think the Crippie story would be great if it wasn't attached to any marketing. The world is full of possibilities.
One day when I was dropping of a bag to a friend, he had company, and of course they were grinning and smoking my bomb weed. The guy that was over there was 35+ and we were youngsters, and he was telling us all kinds of stories. He was like," this stuff is great, but doesn't compare to the buds I used to get in Boulder back in the day. Still haven't seen anything that can compare. We called it DOG or DOG bud." To which my smart ass replied," before I harvested you were smoking the crappy BC buds I was smoking." And I laughed. He was living in Boulder after he finished up with Desert Storm and the first Iraq war, from early 90's until around the time we met in early 2000's.
This was before OG kush hit the marketplace in Cali and of course there was no diesel or Chem around usually these parts. We did consistently get a Hindu Kush strain for about 4-5 years (couple oz every three months) that was to this day probably the strongest I've had. After I laughed at my new acquaintance, I paused and wondered if maybe I was out of line, or just flat out incorrect in my assumption that this next level strength pot was more common than I thought. I remembered the Hindu and held my tongue after that, but of course took what he was saying with a grain of salt. A couple years later the OG, diesels and Chemdog started coming around and sure enough it was stronger than most, and it turns out that this guy wasn't full of shit after all. I guess this story helps me remember that sometimes things may seem unlikely yet still may be true. I think the Crippie story would be great if it wasn't attached to any marketing. The world is full of possibilities.
Used to smoke the cryp from about 91-96, bought mostly from a kid in Sebastian but you could get it all around Brevard. Don't want to add amore confusion with my unconfirmed origin info but I can tell you it did have seeds in it, veeerrry few and far between but we collected them like gold nuggets. I had two fat, striped ones which were eventually discovered and confiscated. My buddy (rip), I don't know if he had a lot more seeds or if he cloned, but he managed to grow out about 15-20 females, started Hydro, we're finishing in 5 gallons, approx 5' tall, sativa structure. As they were finishing, he was building a hidden room, building materials outside his home were questioned, the plants were discovered, stripped and trashed in the last few weeks of flower.
my problem with most og stories is that anyone who's ever popped an og bagseed knows that OG breeds pretty true, even in crosses it is really dominant...I don't know how a hybrid/polyhybrid wouldn't show a lot more variation.
every cut of og I've ever ran has the leaf variegation, and none will put out more than 3 blade leaves if vegged 24/7
I know a lot of you guys bash PO, and rightfully so. I personally always viewed them as more of a genetic source than a clone provider/room filler. I've had a lot of good experiences with po, and have brought home a plethora of bugs and disease but have ALWAYS understood the absolute necessity to quarantine and properly clean their plants before taking cuts etc. I have been for the most part happy with the genetics I have acquired from them, also considering the fact that they make so many legit cuts available even if they are infested, they are typically genetics that I would struggle to acquire by other means. I spent a year or more going from collective to collective all over the valley and OC trying to get a good og back in like 2009-10 and grew out more bullshit "faux G" than you can think of...po gave me some real og's with spider mites and pm, they were great cuts after being cleaned up. IMO PO is a good source but you won't see me filling up rooms with their cuts, that's too risky.
every cut of og I've ever ran has the leaf variegation, and none will put out more than 3 blade leaves if vegged 24/7
I know a lot of you guys bash PO, and rightfully so. I personally always viewed them as more of a genetic source than a clone provider/room filler. I've had a lot of good experiences with po, and have brought home a plethora of bugs and disease but have ALWAYS understood the absolute necessity to quarantine and properly clean their plants before taking cuts etc. I have been for the most part happy with the genetics I have acquired from them, also considering the fact that they make so many legit cuts available even if they are infested, they are typically genetics that I would struggle to acquire by other means. I spent a year or more going from collective to collective all over the valley and OC trying to get a good og back in like 2009-10 and grew out more bullshit "faux G" than you can think of...po gave me some real og's with spider mites and pm, they were great cuts after being cleaned up. IMO PO is a good source but you won't see me filling up rooms with their cuts, that's too risky.
i dunno, one of the parent in the cross is definitely really inbred. but such is genetics, whatever is dominant is always expressed.
case in point i have some poly seeds i'm running now.
inbred east coast diesel strain accidentally dusted.
seedling from second cross
seedling from bagseed cross
seedling second cross. blueberry looking leaves
known blueberryxog cross leaves
i dunno even what dusted up my diesel, or what the true genes are from these bagseeds. but some genes are strong like you said. i can see the kush in the seedlings, and the blueberry in the adults. i'm faily convinced the bagseeds are some sort of blueberryxog cross, and i'm sure the offspring from the diesel dusting are from the bagseed pollen.
case in point i have some poly seeds i'm running now.
inbred east coast diesel strain accidentally dusted.
seedling from second cross
seedling from bagseed cross
seedling second cross. blueberry looking leaves
known blueberryxog cross leaves
i dunno even what dusted up my diesel, or what the true genes are from these bagseeds. but some genes are strong like you said. i can see the kush in the seedlings, and the blueberry in the adults. i'm faily convinced the bagseeds are some sort of blueberryxog cross, and i'm sure the offspring from the diesel dusting are from the bagseed pollen.
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