Criminal indictments coming for Trump.

[Gypsy Nirvana]

yeah,it's a funny old world...i think riding bikes until i'm ready to puke and can barely stand up is a good idea...but at least that has some logic behind it

Too true unc - my latest masochism is walking/marching 10 miles - then stressing my body with tons of weight - and then to the pool - to work with my woggle/noodle - till I'm hallucinating on endorphins - yeah - it's a funny old world - lol

 

[bigtacofarmer]

So when new discoveries are made in science then the truth does not change? When coverups are exposed then truth does not change?

Truth is the realm of those that control information and communication.

It is easy to see if you compare search results between Google and one that is not so heavily censored. But Google still controls the flow of what appears online in some ways. Another place is Twitter or FB. The argument is they are private companies that let you use their service as long as you let them share your data. But they control what data can be shared.

Twitter banning the inventor of the mRNA vaccine is a glaring example. Who better to tell the truth?

Truth is what is factual. Sometimes it's up for debate. Sometimes it is not. Simply deciding that just because some truths eventually are disproven does not mean you can decide which truths are more convenient for you to believe. That is not how it works here in reality.

 

[h.h.]

So when new discoveries are made in science then the truth does not change? When coverups are exposed then truth does not change?

Truth is the realm of those that control information and communication.

It is easy to see if you compare search results between Google and one that is not so heavily censored. But Google still controls the flow of what appears online in some ways. Another place is Twitter or FB. The argument is they are private companies that let you use their service as long as you let them share your data. But they control what data can be shared.

Twitter banning the inventor of the mRNA vaccine is a glaring example. Who better to tell the truth?

Yet you seem to credit yourself with being able to simplify it and know it.
Most knowledge is not absolute, however those who seek it tend to give far better advice. In the pragmatic sense, it’s true more often than not when supported by our current scientific methods. An interesting subject is “fuzzy logic” dealing with degrees of truth.

 

[Switcher56]

I blocked him yesterday. Not sure why his posts are still showing.

I'm actually surprised that the people who actually agree with him haven't pointed out he is not helping them one bit either.

Under setting at the bottom of the page. Ya click after the last name that is there. You have to type it in exactly as his/her handle. It will show up. You click trhat one and hit save. Easy peasy! Perhaps it because I had an ignore list prior to migration, that it has functioned for me since the beginning.

 

[GOT_BUD?]

What I find infuriating is that somehow they equate science = fact = truth. So when science changes, the previously known fact somehow becomes a lie. Not wanting to accept or not realizing that facts change constantly as new discoveries about the truth are found.

Case in point - 500 years ago EVERYBODY knew the earth was flat. All the science at the time supported the claim. And if you said otherwise, you were branded a heretic and excommunicated from the Church. (Which is where science and knowledge erroneously came from once upon a time). But as new things were learned (hello Christopher Columbus, you insane slave trader you.), the science changed to support these new facts.

 

[audiohi]

 

[bigtacofarmer]

What I find infuriating is that somehow they equate science = fact = truth. So when science changes, the previously known fact somehow becomes a lie. Not wanting to accept or not realizing that facts change constantly as new discoveries about the truth are found.

Case in point - 500 years ago EVERYBODY knew the earth was flat. All the science at the time supported the claim. And if you said otherwise, you were branded a heretic and excommunicated from the Church. (Which is where science and knowledge erroneously came from once upon a time). But as new things were learned (hello Christopher Columbus, you insane slave trader you.), the science changed to support these new facts.

Maybe some people thought it was flat. But enough ancient maps have been discovered that clearly some people in some parts of the world knew it was round.

 

[GOT_BUD?]

Maybe some people thought it was flat. But enough ancient maps have been discovered that clearly some people in some parts of the world knew it was round.

Sure, the Vikings did, the mad lads. And those sneaky Chinese. And probably the Indigenous people of the Americas. And the Druids/Pagans. And Galileo.

But not the Church. Who as we all know is the pinnacle of truthiness and science based facts. And anyone besides the Church is just a heretic and probably born of Satan. :derp:

 

[Hammerhead]

Improvements in Science doesn't mean old science was a lie. All Science changes as we gain more knowledge. Everything should be based on the best science known at the time. This is not coming from 1 person.. It's a collab between the best scientists in the world. All these people that think there own country is trying to kill them with a vaccine during a pandemic has lost it.

 

[h.h.]

What I find infuriating is that somehow they equate science = fact = truth. So when science changes, the previously known fact somehow becomes a lie. Not wanting to accept or not realizing that facts change constantly as new discoveries about the truth are found.

Case in point - 500 years ago EVERYBODY knew the earth was flat. All the science at the time supported the claim. And if you said otherwise, you were branded a heretic and excommunicated from the Church. (Which is where science and knowledge erroneously came from once upon a time). But as new things were learned (hello Christopher Columbus, you insane slave trader you.), the science changed to support these new facts.

A very short History of Ancient Astronomy - The Earth



https://ecampus.matc.edu/mihalj/astronomy/test1/History_of_Ast_the_earth.htm

 

[armedoldhippy]

"500 years ago, EVERYBODY knew..." LOL!
scientists of the time knew the earth was not flat, nor was it the center of the universe etc. it was CHURCH DOGMA that changed. and you know how slow that can be, lol...ancient Greeks over 2000 years ago figured it out.

 

[unclefishstick]

i see shit baby has cancelled his fake news conference...i wonder if it has to do with the metaphorical noose that's tightening around his chins...

i wonder which hellspawn will flip first? i'm betting on ivanka to flip,and eric to say something stupid and chargeable

 

[Absolem]

So when new discoveries are made in science then the truth does not change? When coverups are exposed then truth does not change?

Generally what happens is we add to the foundation of "truth" already built. As we find more truths we can discard more false beliefs.

Truth is the realm of those that control information and communication.

Kinda hard to hide the "truth" with this whole world wide internet thingy. Not like people are going on to a street corner with the old "soap box".

It is easy to see if you compare search results between Google and one that is not so heavily censored. But Google still controls the flow of what appears online in some ways. Another place is Twitter or FB. The argument is they are private companies that let you use their service as long as you let them share your data. But they control what data can be shared.

Here's your problem champ. Why you going to FB and Twitter to get your medical information from? Seems kinda silly. Why not use "Google Scholar" where only peer reviewed studies are allowed. It's where medical and law students get their information from. Or just go to the best medical schools and see what they are posting? I view Twitter and FB as nothing more then a modern day bulletin board.

Twitter banning the inventor of the mRNA vaccine is a glaring example. Who better to tell the truth?

He gave himself that label so he could sell books and fool people like you into believing he was the sole creator. MRNA has been studied the last 70 years.

 

[St. Phatty]

Improvements in Science doesn't mean old science was a lie. All Science changes as we gain more knowledge. Everything should be based on the best science known at the time. This is not coming from 1 person.. It's a collab between the best scientists in the world. All these people that think there own country is trying to kill them with a vaccine during a pandemic has lost it.

For people whose world extended 100 miles at most, the Earth was basically flat.

 

[armedoldhippy]

and eric to say something stupid and chargeable

you're not going to get many takers betting on either of his boys to say something stupid. that's an everyday occurrence. those apples didn't fall far enough from the tree, and were rotting before they hit the ground...

 

[unclefishstick]

you're not going to get many takers betting on either of his boys to say something stupid. that's an everyday occurrence. those apples didn't fall far enough from the tree, and were rotting before they hit the ground...

it's tough for them,what with their dad selling their souls and all

 

[armedoldhippy]

it's tough for them,what with their dad selling their souls and all

well, The Chump needed the money to pad his...uh, pay for his battle to save democracy from voters.

 

['Boogieman']

So that ties in with the vaccine how? The last Republican in office told us covid would simply vanish. You bought into that crap. Now you’re ready for a war with China. Maybe send someone’s kid in your place. You’re all over the place.

I don't want war with China, but I do believe we should crush them economically and set their plans back.

 

[h.h.]

I don't want war with China, but I do believe we should crush them economically and set their plans back.

China thrives on our capitalism. Buy low, sell high. Never mind your fellow citizen.

 

[bigtacofarmer]

The majority of China is a third world country. The people are already economicly crippled. There are some parts of the country the Chinese government likes to show the world so they appear rich and powerful. But the majority of the county does not have modern infrastructure and proper healthcare. Their riches does not trickle down to the rest of the nation. It's mostly just an act.