I have no problem believing something along the lines of what is laid out by the OP and people in this thread. The question is once we can agree that this shit is happening, what in the hell are we going to do about it besides sit here and whine while we twiddle our thumbs up our collective assholes?
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Covid is a accidental Lab leaked bioweapon
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sorry but can you explain what the difference is between real scientists and not real scientist? is a virologist a scientist? a biologist? which qualifications are needed to make someone a real scientist? appart from his Covid Pope Fauci the 1st , is there anyone else whos a real scientist? oh i know, maybe bill gates? lmao
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i wonder if it has to do with what they say rather then the qualifications. so, i assume if they say it was Trumps plan to get rid of the dead wood in society, that thye made a deal with fauci to get this show on the road, then it will be a real scientist. but if any blame should fall on Obama or Clinton then its a fake scientist, lol.
Interesting that you would blame trump when he was not in any governmental position when the grant from the nih to the wuhan lab originated (2014)... from what I read trump admin reapproved the grant in 2017..
it stands to reason if one president (trump) is to blame for funding the wuhan lab then the the administration that originally approved the funding would also be culpable.
no?
I read the experiments were funded throughout the trump years. The “leak” occurred during the trump years. The buck stops with trump.
Fair point imo
id think some culpability would lie with the nih and the Obama admin for approving the funding in the first place...
(not to mention the ccp and their role in obfuscating the lab leak (if it was a lab leak)
imo there is probably enough blame to go around
id think some culpability would lie with the nih and the Obama admin for approving the funding in the first place...
(not to mention the ccp and their role in obfuscating the lab leak (if it was a lab leak)
imo there is probably enough blame to go around
'Boogieman'
Well-known member
China knew a virus was spreading and allowed travel from other countries yet suspended travel in its own country. Now that is absolutely fucked up.
St. Phatty
Active member
It was a project that spanned the Obama-Trump years.
The contracts were let in 2014 & 2019.
Obama put in place 2 early warning systems for Pandemics, the White House pandemic office & Dr. Linda Quick, a doctor stationed on the ground in Wuhan.
Trump fired both of them.
But I'm not sure either office would have helped. Maybe they were just make-work programs.
Rand Paul: Fauci emails paint ‘disturbing picture’ of COVID narrative
Rand Paul?! ha ha ha
what a maroon!
I find it amazing that Kentucky couldn’t do better than a failed eye doctor with anger management issues.
the good Fraudci reinstated the program funding gain of function without the Trump administration knowing...
Fauci Reportedly Relaunched NIH Gain-of-Function Research without Consulting White House
By Jack Crowe
April 27, 2021 6:36 PM
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, addresses the daily coronavirus task force briefing at the White House, April 17, 2020. (Leah Millis/Reuters)
Washington Post columnist Josh Rogin, who has done invaluable work in calling attention to the possibility that COVID-19 originated in a Wuhan lab, broke some news during his appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience on Tuesday.
After laying out the circumstantial evidence that COVID originated in the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), Rogin explained why Dr. Anthony Fauci, like many in the world of virology research, has a vested professional interest in downplaying the likelihood that so-called gain-of-function research — of the kind performed at the Wuhan lab — not only failed to prevent the ongoing global pandemic but actually may have played a hand in unleashing it.
“The Godfather of [gain-of-function virology research], the head of the pyramid, is a guy you may have heard of called Anthony Fauci,” Rogin said. “So, Anthony Fauci, the hero of the pandemic, is the most important person in the world of gain-of-function research there is . . . Basically, he is the one disbursing all the grants for this, he is the one who pushed to turn it back on after Obama turned it off, that’s another crazy story, he turned it back on without really consulting the White House.”
“He consulted the Office of Science and Technology Policy, which is part of the White House, but the White House put a pause on it and he undid the pause,” Rogin continued. “The details are a little sketchy. I’m not saying he did anything necessarily wrong or illegal, but I’m saying that a lot of people that I know inside the Trump administration had no idea that he had turned this back on. He found a way to turn it back on in the mess of the Trump administration because the Trump administration is full of a bunch of clowns, so you could get things done if you knew how to work the system.”
As Rogin himself admits, “the details are a little sketchy,” and we’ll have to take a look at the sourcing included in whatever article this piece of news appears in before alleging any wrongdoing. But Rogin has banked significant credibility by questioning the mainstream COVID-origin consensus. He dealt a significant blow to the media’s near-religious faith in the natural-transmission theory by reporting on the existence of 2018 State Department cables that raised concerns about the lack of safety protocols at the Wuhan lab, which was performing gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses at the time.
The Obama administration suspended gain-of-function research in 2014 after a series of lab accidents involving pathogens at CDC headquarters in Georgia.
A Nature article from October 2014 lays out the rationale for the suspension:
According to Rogin, much of the gain-of-function research that was being conducted in the U.S. prior to the moratorium subsequently migrated to China — and EcoHealth Alliance, the U.S. research nonprofit, secured its grant to funnel NIH money to the WIV in 2015, less than a year after the moratorium was put in place. If Fauci did indeed use bureaucratic maneuvering to resume gain-of-function research on U.S. soil, as Rogin alleges, he has some explaining to do — even if domestic research isn’t to blame for our current pandemic.
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then he said Trump was to face a threat to his administration from a viral outbreak. (paraphrased)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puqaaeLnEww
you suck at being right...
Fauci Reportedly Relaunched NIH Gain-of-Function Research without Consulting White House
By Jack Crowe
April 27, 2021 6:36 PM
Washington Post columnist Josh Rogin, who has done invaluable work in calling attention to the possibility that COVID-19 originated in a Wuhan lab, broke some news during his appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience on Tuesday.
After laying out the circumstantial evidence that COVID originated in the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), Rogin explained why Dr. Anthony Fauci, like many in the world of virology research, has a vested professional interest in downplaying the likelihood that so-called gain-of-function research — of the kind performed at the Wuhan lab — not only failed to prevent the ongoing global pandemic but actually may have played a hand in unleashing it.
“The Godfather of [gain-of-function virology research], the head of the pyramid, is a guy you may have heard of called Anthony Fauci,” Rogin said. “So, Anthony Fauci, the hero of the pandemic, is the most important person in the world of gain-of-function research there is . . . Basically, he is the one disbursing all the grants for this, he is the one who pushed to turn it back on after Obama turned it off, that’s another crazy story, he turned it back on without really consulting the White House.”
“He consulted the Office of Science and Technology Policy, which is part of the White House, but the White House put a pause on it and he undid the pause,” Rogin continued. “The details are a little sketchy. I’m not saying he did anything necessarily wrong or illegal, but I’m saying that a lot of people that I know inside the Trump administration had no idea that he had turned this back on. He found a way to turn it back on in the mess of the Trump administration because the Trump administration is full of a bunch of clowns, so you could get things done if you knew how to work the system.”
As Rogin himself admits, “the details are a little sketchy,” and we’ll have to take a look at the sourcing included in whatever article this piece of news appears in before alleging any wrongdoing. But Rogin has banked significant credibility by questioning the mainstream COVID-origin consensus. He dealt a significant blow to the media’s near-religious faith in the natural-transmission theory by reporting on the existence of 2018 State Department cables that raised concerns about the lack of safety protocols at the Wuhan lab, which was performing gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses at the time.
The Obama administration suspended gain-of-function research in 2014 after a series of lab accidents involving pathogens at CDC headquarters in Georgia.
A Nature article from October 2014 lays out the rationale for the suspension:
Critics of such work argue that it is unnecessarily dangerous and risks accidentally releasing viruses with pandemic potential — such as an engineered H5N1 influenza virus that easily spreads between ferrets breathing the same air[SUP]1, 2[/SUP]. In 2012, such concerns prompted a global group of flu researchers to halt gain-of-function experiments for a year (see Nature http://doi.org/wgx; 2012). The debate reignited in July, after a series of lab accidents involving mishandled pathogens at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, Georgia.
The White House’s abrupt move seems to be a response to renewed lobbying by gain-of-function critics who wanted such work suspended and others who sought to evaluate its risks and benefits without disrupting existing research.
The White House’s abrupt move seems to be a response to renewed lobbying by gain-of-function critics who wanted such work suspended and others who sought to evaluate its risks and benefits without disrupting existing research.
According to Rogin, much of the gain-of-function research that was being conducted in the U.S. prior to the moratorium subsequently migrated to China — and EcoHealth Alliance, the U.S. research nonprofit, secured its grant to funnel NIH money to the WIV in 2015, less than a year after the moratorium was put in place. If Fauci did indeed use bureaucratic maneuvering to resume gain-of-function research on U.S. soil, as Rogin alleges, he has some explaining to do — even if domestic research isn’t to blame for our current pandemic.
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then he said Trump was to face a threat to his administration from a viral outbreak. (paraphrased)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puqaaeLnEww
you suck at being right...
don't like the message attack the messenger, got it.
Switcher56
Comfortably numb!
Tucker: Why did they lie to us for so long
“Why did they lie to us for so long”?
People have been asking the same of Tucker for years.
There was even a famous lawsuit because Tucker lies ALL OF THE TIME.
btw, Tucker won his lawsuit after his attorney convinced the judge that no rational person would believe anything Tucker says.
Sorry, i just find it extremely humorous when liars accuse others of lying.
Tuker is an asshole who promotes his side above all else, he does however some times speak real truth to power, when it serves his ideology for sure, but the points brought up about the origins of covid are on point.
Tucker Carlson. His father's name is Richard, but he goes by Dick.
You don't wanna call yourself Dick and then name you son Tucker..
Unless the other choice was Richard Tucker Carlson Jr.
'Cause then he'd be Little Dick Tucker..
I don't know the name of his mother, and I don't even want to.
Just imagine breakfast at their family.
Morning mother!
Tucker!
Dick.
Tucker.
Or a PTA meeting; I'm Richard, but call me Dick, and here's my little Tucker. Ain't he something!
Or if it was Game of Thrones kinda thing: Representing house Carlson; The son of Dick, Tucker.
Someone said his childhood was easy, and that he went to some fancy private school. I'm not that interested to see if it's true. But I don't care how private or fancy your school is if your name is Tucker and your dad's a Dick, and calls himself Dick. Quite frankly I'm surprised he made it thru grade school alive.
On a more political level, this guy flip flops around more than something that flip flops a lot, fuck this guy. Dick, mother, Tucker.
You don't wanna call yourself Dick and then name you son Tucker..
Unless the other choice was Richard Tucker Carlson Jr.
'Cause then he'd be Little Dick Tucker..
I don't know the name of his mother, and I don't even want to.
Just imagine breakfast at their family.
Morning mother!
Tucker!
Dick.
Tucker.
Or a PTA meeting; I'm Richard, but call me Dick, and here's my little Tucker. Ain't he something!
Or if it was Game of Thrones kinda thing: Representing house Carlson; The son of Dick, Tucker.
Someone said his childhood was easy, and that he went to some fancy private school. I'm not that interested to see if it's true. But I don't care how private or fancy your school is if your name is Tucker and your dad's a Dick, and calls himself Dick. Quite frankly I'm surprised he made it thru grade school alive.
On a more political level, this guy flip flops around more than something that flip flops a lot, fuck this guy. Dick, mother, Tucker.
What was his message, aside from he’s a moronic idiot?
Sounded like he was saying that there’s no proof of gain of function research, but it there was gain if function research, DrFauci was responsible for it. And even though Dr Fauci worked directly for the WhiteHouse he was somehow writing checks that no one knew about, even though it is practically impossible for anyone in government to spend government money without at least ten people above you having to sign off on the spending, but somehow he spent millions or billions and noone in the WhiteHouse knew, especially not president Loser45, even though the white House approved the spending. That was the gist of it.
In your video, he was slurring his words a lot. How many cocktails do you think he had with breakfast that morning?
True story: Rand Paul couldn’t pass the eye doctor boards, so he created his own eye doctor board, made up some eye doctor board test, took the test he just created, corrected the test he just created, then passed himself and awarded himself as board certified. Yeah, that’s the guy I want doing eye surgery on my eyes.
Then he ran for the US Senate.
Then he started harassing his neighbors.
Then he got in a fistfight with one of his neighbors....something about lawncare.
Every single time he went on a war of words with DrFauci(who actually passed the medical boards) and got his ass kicked every time.
Rand Paul can be expected to be 100% incorrect 99% of the time.
He is a maroon!
What was his message, aside from he’s a moronic idiot?
Sounded like he was saying that there’s no proof of gain of function research, but it there was gain if function research, DrFauci was responsible for it. And even though Dr Fauci worked directly for the WhiteHouse he was somehow writing checks that no one knew about, even though it is practically impossible for anyone in government to spend government money without at least ten people above you having to sign off on the spending, but somehow he spent millions or billions and noone in the WhiteHouse knew, especially not president Loser45, even though the white House approved the spending. That was the gist of it.
In your video, he was slurring his words a lot. How many cocktails do you think he had with breakfast that morning?
True story: Rand Paul couldn’t pass the eye doctor boards, so he created his own eye doctor board, made up some eye doctor board test, took the test he just created, corrected the test he just created, then passed himself and awarded himself as board certified. Yeah, that’s the guy I want doing eye surgery on my eyes.
Then he ran for the US Senate.
Then he started harassing his neighbors.
Then he got in a fistfight with one of his neighbors....something about lawncare.
Every single time he went on a war of words with DrFauci(who actually passed the medical boards) and got his ass kicked every time.
Rand Paul can be expected to be 100% incorrect 99% of the time.
He is a maroon!
thats some funny shit right there, in many ways.
but specially regarding the last few exchanges between the two. none so blind as those that don't want to see as they say.
so you still think Fauci is right about covid origins, even when he himself changes his tune?
i prefer a charlatan eye doctor to a mad scientist who thinks its a good idea to make biological weapons from natural viruses any day.
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