Covid is a accidental Lab leaked bioweapon

[flylowgethigh]

Foochie should be hung for what he has done. Outsourced biological weapons development to the fuckin chicoms.

The Treehouse provided the following timeline:

♦ October 17, 2014 – U.S. funding of SARS to create a biological weapon was paused due to the extreme risk of a pandemic. However, the pause allowed agencies within the U.S. government to continue funding if they determined “the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security.”

♦ 2014 through 2020 the Pentagon continued funding research in Wuhan, China. Fear of discovery would explain why many top officials in the U.S. Defense Department were against the Trump administration [with increased severity after the COVID pandemic began].

♦ May 2016 – [An Election Year] “after thorough deliberation and extensive input from domestic and international stakeholders, the NSABB [National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity] issued its recommendations. NSABB’s central finding was that studies that are expected to enhance PPP have potential benefits to public health but also entail significant risks. NSABB recommended that such studies warranted additional scrutiny prior to being funded.” Anthony Fauci is on the NSABB.

♦ January 9, 2017 – [Four Days after the Susan Rice oval office meeting with Obama, Biden, Comey, et al] The Obama Administration re-authorizes funding for the creation of SARS biological weapons. “Adoption of these recommendations will satisfy the requirements for lifting the current moratorium on certain life sciences research that could enhance a pathogen’s virulence and/or transmissibility to produce a potential pandemic pathogen (an enhanced PPP).“

There's more too...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...viduals-lied-claimed-covid-wasnt-created-lab/​

 

[buzzmobile]

connect the dots, people, connect the dots ...

That's hard work.

 

[gaiusmarius]

yesterday i discovered that one of the big name journalists covering lab leak theory is the same fucker who lied about Iraqs WMD program together with Judith Miller, that made me take a deep breath i tell you. what if this whole lab leak thing is the actual lie, the new lie to promote new war maybe? or maybe it was even planted by the cia to make them look guilty. when start seeing the same guys who lied before agreeing with me, it's time to re examine all the evidence from square 1.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

yesterday i discovered that one of the big name journalists covering lab leak theory is the same fucker who lied about Iraqs WMD program together with Judith Miller, that made me take a deep breath i tell you. what if this whole lab leak thing is the actual lie, the new lie to promote new war maybe? or maybe it was even planted by the cia to make them look guilty. when start seeing the same guys who lied before agreeing with me, it's time to re examine all the evidence from square 1.

Names.... we want names.

 

[Switcher56]

yesterday i discovered that one of the big name journalists covering lab leak theory is the same fucker who lied about Iraqs WMD program together with Judith Miller, that made me take a deep breath i tell you. what if this whole lab leak thing is the actual lie, the new lie to promote new war maybe? or maybe it was even planted by the cia to make them look guilty. when start seeing the same guys who lied before agreeing with me, it's time to re examine all the evidence from square 1.

I think it is high time you woke up and smelled the coffee. Google:

• action
• reaction
• solution

The light will come on. Hence, the Palestinian skirmish is localized and only a very small part of the overall picture. I can call it insignificant but that would not be correct as any loss of life, regardless of which side they are on, is totally unacceptable period! To the puppet masters, mere casualties of war. e.g insignificant

 

[TychoMonolyth]

china and the us worked toegether in that lab. placing blame on one group is dumb.

With gargantuan global debts, it stands to reason that the whole ball of wax is going to implode (melt?) at some point. A global pandemic that would shut everything down would have been be a great distraction. If it was released on purpose, I suspect it wasn't as effective as they wanted.

 

[Switcher56]

With gargantuan global debts, it stands to reason that the whole ball of wax is going to implode (melt?) at some point. A global pandemic that would shut everything down would have been be a great distraction. If it was released on purpose, I suspect it wasn't as effective as they wanted.

I stated before and elsewhere, it was a perfect bio weapon, from a military standpoint. The rich got richer but......... the Chinese made money every qtr since the beginning. The rest of the world is in debt. Inflation will hit, we are already seeing this, and that is simply the fat lady warming up in the bleachers. They have the great reset (PE), where is our reset, vaccine anyone?

The perfect shit storm/sandwich and we are all going to have to take a bite. What businesses flourished during this pandemic? Disinfectants and PPE, to name a few. Shit they even came out with a spray garunteed to keep the sprayed surface clean and not transferable for 24hrs e.g (somebody "polluted" touches it, and you touch that surface afterwards you are safe). It must be true as I seen it on TV. I'm a low tide real estate agent, call me

 

[draztik]

I think it is high time you woke up and smelled the coffee. Google:

• action
• reaction
• solution

The light will come on. Hence, the Palestinian skirmish is localized and only a very small part of the overall picture. I can call it insignificant but that would not be correct as any loss of life, regardless of which side they are on, is totally unacceptable period! To the puppet masters, mere casualties of war. e.g insignificant

A little of the old Hegalean Dialectic. It's being done on so many levels.

 

[armedoldhippy]

hm, i thought you agreed thatlab leak was likely ?

entirely possible, don't think we will ever know for sure. China, for damn sure, has made it difficult if not impossible to find out. all we are going to end up with is competing conspiracy theories with no facts hanging around. JMHO

 

[Switcher56]

A little of the old Hegalean Dialectic. It's being done on so many levels.

Had to look that one up but yes.

 

[Switcher56]

entirely possible, don't think we will ever know for sure. China, for damn sure, has made it difficult if not impossible to find out. all we are going to end up with is competing conspiracy theories with no facts hanging around. JMHO

The CCP has the entire world by the bag. They are shrewd, everybody owes them and, they are kindly reminded when they step out of line. Therefore highly plausible Mr Hippy.

The 1st case of H1N1 was around Apr '09. Why was there a patent for the H1N1 vaccine applied for in Nov '08?

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

I'll just leave this hear (Nothing to see, folks!)
https://www.icmag.com/forum/talk-ab...2-the-great-awakening?p=17874126#post17874126

 

[gaiusmarius]

took me about an hour to re find the story. i actually got it from an interview i watched, but i can't find it again, it was a short part in longer interview.
anyway check it out.

Author of Wall Street Journal “Wuhan lab” story wrote lies about Iraqi “Weapons of Mass Destruction”

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/06/01/wuha-j02.html

Andre Damon


@Andre__Damon



1 June 2021
On May 23, the Wall Street Journal published an article titled “Intelligence on Sick Staff at Wuhan Lab Fuels Debate on Covid-19 Origin.” Citing unnamed “current and former officials,” it claimed that researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology “went to hospital in November 2019, shortly before confirmed outbreak” of COVID-19.
Two days later, on May 25, Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra, speaking at the United Nations World Health Assembly, demanded a “transparent” investigation into the origins of COVID-19.
The next day, on May 26, US President Joe Biden called on the “Intelligence Community” to investigate whether COVID-19 arose “from a laboratory accident” and “report back to me in 90 days.”

Secretary of State Colin Powell holds up a vial he said could contain anthrax as he presents evidence of Iraq's alleged weapons programs to the United Nations Security Council in this Feb. 5, 2003 file photo.(AP Photo/Elise Amendola, File)Media reports by NBC, CNN, and the New York Times followed. All of them claimed that the Biden Administration’s actions were triggered by the “new evidence” presented in the Wall Street Journal article. Within 24 hours of publication of the Journal’s report, all of these publications declared that the Wuhan Lab conspiracy theory was “credible.”
But the article published by the Wall Street Journal—beyond being totally unsubstantiated and presenting nothing fundamentally new in terms of “intelligence”—is presented by a lead author who happens to have helped fabricate the most lethal lie of the 21st century.
The lead author of the Journal piece, Michael R. Gordon, was the same man who, along with Judith Miller, wrote the September 8, 2002 article falsely asserting that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein was seeking to build a nuclear weapon.
That article, entitled “U.S. says Hussein intensifies quest for a-bomb parts,” claimed that “In the last 14 months, Iraq has sought to buy thousands of specially designed aluminum tubes, which American officials believe were intended as components of centrifuges to enrich uranium.”
The claim was a lie, funneled to the Times by the office of US Vice President Dick Cheney.


On May 26, 2004, the Times published a letter from its editors entitled “FROM THE EDITORS; The Times and Iraq,” acknowledging that the Times repeatedly “fell for misinformation.” The letter notes,

But we have found a number of instances of coverage that was not as rigorous as it should have been…

On Sept. 8, 2002, the lead article of the paper was headlined “'U.S. Says Hussein Intensified Quest for A-Bomb Parts.'” That report concerned the aluminum tubes that the administration advertised insistently as components for the manufacture of nuclear weapons fuel. … it should have been presented more cautiously… Administration officials were allowed to hold forth at length on why this evidence of Iraq’s nuclear intentions demanded that Saddam Hussein be dislodged from power: “'The first sign of a ‘smoking gun,’ they argued, may be a mushroom cloud.''​

In a 2005 article by its public editor, the New York Times acknowledged in relation to the coverage by Miller, including the article co-authored by Gordon:

Miller may still be best known for her role in a series of Times articles in 2002 and 2003 that strongly suggested Saddam Hussein already had or was acquiring an arsenal of weapons of mass destruction. Howell Raines was then the executive editor of The Times, and several articles about weapons of mass destruction were displayed prominently in the paper. Many of those articles turned out to be inaccurate.​

Polk award-winning journalist Robert Parry subsequently commented on Gordon’s role in the story:

The infamous aluminum tube story of Sept. 8, 2002, which Gordon co-wrote with Judith Miller, relied on U.S. intelligence sources and Iraqi defectors to frighten Americans with images of “mushroom clouds” if they didn’t support President George W. Bush’s invasion of Iraq. The timing played perfectly into the administration’s advertising “rollout” for the Iraq War.​

Of course, the story turned out to be false and to have unfairly downplayed skeptics of the nuclear-centrifuge scenario. The aluminum tubes actually were meant for artillery, not for centrifuges. But the article provided a great impetus toward the Iraq War, which ended up killing nearly 4,500 U.S. soldiers and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.

Gordon’s co-author, Judith Miller, became the only U.S. journalist known to have lost a job over the reckless and shoddy reporting that contributed to the Iraq disaster. For his part, Gordon continued serving as a respected Pentagon correspondent.​

Over the subsequent decade and a half Gordon continued to serve as a conduit for fabricated “intelligence” emanating from the White House, the Pentagon and the CIA.

On April 20, 2014, Gordon co-authored an article entitled “Photos Link Masked Men in East Ukraine to Russia,” which claimed to identify masked men operating in eastern Ukraine in opposition to the US-backed coup regime as active-duty Russian soldiers.

Gordon wrote,

Now, photographs and descriptions from eastern Ukraine endorsed by the Obama administration on Sunday suggest that many of the green men are indeed Russian military and intelligence forces — equipped in the same fashion as Russian special operations troops involved in annexing the Crimea region in February.​

Four days later, the Times Public editor was again compelled to retract the claims in Gordon’s reporting, calling them “discredited.”

The Times led its print edition Monday with an article based in part on photographs that the State Department said were evidence of Russian military presence in popular uprisings in Ukraine. The headline read: “Photos Link Masked Men in East Ukraine to Russia.”

More recently, some of those grainy photographs have been discredited. The Times has published a second article backing off from the original and airing questions about what the photographs are said to depict, but hardly addressing how the newspaper may have been misled.

It all feels rather familiar – the rushed publication of something exciting, often based on an executive branch leak. And then, afterward, with a kind of “morning after” feeling, here comes a more sober, less prominently displayed follow-up story, to deal with objections while not clarifying much of anything …

And the reporter Robert Parry (formerly of Newsweek and The Associated Press) on Consortiumnews.com sees a pattern in Times articles, often based on administration leaks, that “draw hard conclusions from very murky evidence while ignoring or brushing aside alternative explanations.”​

Summing up the role played by the media in the run-up to the Iraq war, WSWS editorial board chairman David North wrote in War, oligarchy and the political lie:

It must be stressed that the mass media was not duped by the Bush administration, but functioned as its willing accomplice in the deliberate deception of the American people. There was nothing that was particularly sophisticated in the government’s propaganda campaign. Much of what it said was contradicted by both established facts and elementary logic. Even when it was established that the administration’s claim that Iraq had sought to obtain nuclear material was based on crudely forged documents, the media chose not to make a major issue of this devastating exposure.

Now the war is over at the cost of countless thousands of Iraqi lives. The country lies in ruins. Much of its industrial, social, and cultural infrastructure has been destroyed. During the past three weeks, US military forces have combed Iraq in search of the weapons of mass destruction that could be seized upon by the administration and media to justify the war. And what has been found? Nothing.​

The same kind of “deliberate deception” by the media in relation to “weapons of mass destruction” used to prepare the Iraq war is being reprised in the ongoing campaign by the Biden administration and the media to promote the claim that COVID-19 emerged from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Just as the lies of 2002 led to the destruction of Iraq and the deaths of over a million people, the current US propaganda campaign against China risks provoking a military conflict on a far more devastating scale.

 

[Switcher56]

took me about an hour to re find the story. i actually got it from an interview i watched, but i can't find it again, it was a short part in longer interview.
anyway check it out.

Author of Wall Street Journal “Wuhan lab” story wrote lies about Iraqi “Weapons of Mass Destruction”

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/202.../wuha-j02.html

reach much? Apples and orange son. They used WMD to overthrow/topple Saddam whereas in 1991 the UN's mandate only supported the expulsion of Hussein from Kuwait, the resolution did not endorse the subsequent massacre (Highway to hell) while Iraqis were retreating/withdrawing (returning home) against the Geneva convention. That is one of the reasons why Chretien refused to be part of the 2003 coalition, unless the invasion was sanctioned by the UN which it wasn't. The US were not impressed with us. Bravo Jean "big brass cajonas".

It's not the 1st time the US disposed of one their assets once they fulfilled their usefulness.. Qaddafi, Bin Laden, Hussein, Mubarak etc...

As I doubt the intent of the US of "publishing such propaganda" is to topple the Chinese govt. It will never happen without serious repercussions. Do ya think the Ruskies will let that happen, NK?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Chessboard is a recommended read, why?

Zbigniew Brzezinski was President Jimmy Carter's National Security Advisor from 1977 to 1981. The book was written in '97 and I was flabbergasted that what was going on in the world in 2010, was clearly described in is book, to include but not limited to China and Russia forming the Eurasias. What is also fascinating in his book was that (remember this was written in '97, did he have a crystal ball?) There intent wrt to the middle east, especially Iraq was key to control what I call "the stans" Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan ect and build a pipeline to the South China sea. Guess who was overseeing that project, no other than Kissinger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger

Kissinger; May 27, 1923) is an American politician, diplomat, and geopolitical consultant who served as United States Secretary of State and National Security Advisor under the presidential administrations of Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford.

In the end, the world ("The New World Order", not a very popular term, now called Globalization, much much more popular) will be comprised of only 5 unions. We already have the European and North American union...

 

[gaiusmarius]

reach much? Apples and orange son. They used WMD to overthrow/topple Saddam whereas in 1991 the UN's mandate only supported the expulsion of Hussein from Kuwait, the resolution did not endorse the subsequent massacre (Highway to hell) while Iraqis were retreating/withdrawing (returning home) against the Geneva convention. That is one of the reasons why Chretien refused to be part of the 2003 coalition, unless the invasion was sanctioned by the UN which it wasn't. The US were not impressed with us. Bravo Jean "big brass cajonas".

It's not the 1st time the US disposed of one their assets once they fulfilled their usefulness.. Qaddafi, Bin Laden, Hussein, Mubarak etc...

As I doubt the intent of the US of "publishing such propaganda" is to topple the Chinese govt. It will never happen without serious repercussions. Do ya think the Ruskies will let that happen, NK?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Chessboard is a recommended read, why?

Zbigniew Brzezinski was President Jimmy Carter's National Security Advisor from 1977 to 1981. The book was written in '97 and I was flabbergasted that what was going on in the world in 2010, was clearly described in is book, to include but not limited to China and Russia forming the Eurasias. What is also fascinating in his book was that (remember this was written in '97, did he have a crystal ball?) There intent wrt to the middle east, especially Iraq was key to control what I call "the stans" Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan ect and build a pipeline to the South China sea. Guess who was overseeing that project, no other than Kissinger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger

Kissinger; May 27, 1923) is an American politician, diplomat, and geopolitical consultant who served as United States Secretary of State and National Security Advisor under the presidential administrations of Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford.

In the end, the world ("The New World Order", not a very popular term, now called Globalization, much much more popular) will be comprised of only 5 unions. We already have the European and North American union...

maybe it's not about toppling the Chinese system but making them into the new boogie man to be feared and to give up your rights in fear of them, to give up your money to defend against them. im not convinced that the lab leak is propaganda, i still find the pro lab leak more convincing then the natural phenomenon theory. but when you find out the same cia propagandist is involved in pushing it, as pushed the aluminium tube story for the war mongers, i do start to wonder whats going on.

 

[Switcher56]

maybe it's not about toppling the Chinese system but making them into the new boogie man to be feared and to give up your rights in fear of them, to give up your money to defend against them. im not convinced that the lab leak is propaganda, i still find the pro lab leak more convincing then the natural phenomenon theory. but when you find out the same cia propagandist is involved in pushing it, as pushed the aluminium tube story for the war mongers, i do start to wonder whats going on.

Perhaps propaganda wasn't the right word to use in my reply. That being said (bold text) your previous dialogue was nebulous at best. Understandable as English doen't seem to be your 1st language. Wrt to the OSS/CIA they have been at this game since post WWII. The caveat, they might be complicit at the local level, and I won't deny that their shenanigans are somewhat covert even within their own government. If you haven't had the opportunity to watch the movie "Vice", watch it, it explains a lot!

ETA: (edited to add) BTW, this type of activity is not isolated to the US. Nations have been toppling governments since the dawn of time. Mankind as a whole is inherently evil.

 

[exploziv]

I do agree lately there's more info in favor of the leak story than natural species jump one. I actually was pretty convinced since the start that this was happening, by the actions China took then, and also was a bit wary of the fact that they managed to beat it in the start better than other top contries of the world managed to. Maybe they knew what they were working against from the start..
I also belive that actually more people died in China from Covid that they are sharing, maybe much more, but that's not the topic here so I'll leave that aside.
Now.. we'll see what happens next. There may be already tensions mounting at high level and discussion happening behind closed doors about this problem, especially between usa and china. One thing is for sure, we don't know the whole story!

 

[gaiusmarius]

Perhaps propaganda wasn't the right word to use in my reply. That being said (bold text) your previous dialogue was nebulous at best. Understandable as English doen't seem to be your 1st language. Wrt to the OSS/CIA they have been at this game since post WWII. The caveat, they might be complicit at the local level, and I won't deny that their shenanigans are somewhat covert even within their own government. If you haven't had the opportunity to watch the movie "Vice", watch it, it explains a lot!

ETA: (edited to add) BTW, this type of activity is not isolated to the US. Nations have been toppling governments since the dawn of time. Mankind as a whole is inherently evil.

i was the one starting this thread with Nicolas Wades article, i spent pages arguing the pro lab leak theory. but i try to never get so set in my opinions that im no longer able to question them. specially when the question is so far beyond my expertise like bio weapons and viruses. also remember a lab leak can come from other labs too, even if it was leaked from the Wuhan lab or the Wuhan corona virus research centre, it might well have been 100% accidental. we should not allow anyone to use this as an excuse to start war mongering even more against China.

 

[Switcher56]

Agree! That being said, regardless of how the outbreak occur, the question we should ask each other is why were they weaponizing it (proof of concept)? I doubt we will ever know the truth. OTOH, we need to look beyond the leak IMHO in order to be objective e.g what has occurred panwide since the outbreak? That pretty much says it all A piece of data may seem benign on the surface, it may not fit a scenario, whatever. TBS, that piece of data is not insignificant and hence, stored, until it either fits the puzzle or is dismissed.

Like criminal investigations, evidence is circumstantial if you can't prove motive. What was the motive here (leak intentional or not)?

 

[gaiusmarius]

the theory goes that you have to make bio weapons to be able to research how to defend against the enemy using them. at least thats what the bioweapon labs all over the world claim.