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Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

  • yes, gimme

    Votes: 29 31.9%
  • not yet

    Votes: 15 16.5%
  • no way

    Votes: 47 51.6%

  • Total voters
    91
  • Poll closed .

Absolem

Active member
Excellent. You can start with these - a fellow medical professional independently looking at the data. The sources are always cited for you to follow up on.

https://youtu.be/Hb1Xm1uaedU

https://youtu.be/7YOD9drZasM

https://youtu.be/THv33zWykJc


(Get back to us once you've gone through all the info?)

Why can't your people put that down on paper for people review? Simple, It's not made for the medical field. It's made for people like you who have a hard time reading medical research and latch on easily to misinformation.
 
Why can't your people put that down on paper for people review? Simple, It's not made for the medical field. It's made for people like you who have a hard time reading medical research and latch on easily to misinformation.

Lmao 😆🙈 It IS the medical paper, being reviewed and simplified by a highly trained and qualified medical proffessional. Its already on paper, they site the sorces in the video. They are litterally going through the paper/report info and data and saying what it means. Why do you need me to write it out here? The reports and all info are cited, so if you think your more qualified (are you an Md or phd, I cant remember), why dont you review the papers they are citing?

("write it out here or it doesnt count!" Lol, get real 😆)
 

Absolem

Active member
Lmao 😆🙈 It IS the medical paper, being reviewed and simplified by a highly trained and qualified medical proffessional. Its already on paper, they site the sorces in the video. They are litterally going through the paper/report info and data and saying what it means. Why do you need me to write it out here? The reports and all info are cited, so if you think your more qualified (are you an Md or phd, I cant remember), why dont you review the papers they are citing?

("write it out here or it doesnt count!" Lol, get real 😆)

Maybe you need a third party to explain medical knowledge to you. But some of us here like to see the actual research. Should be simple to post. Yet you don't. Think it's because you have been corrected several times on the "studies" you have tried passing off here.
 

Volcanna

Active member
Veteran
The point of my post was that its better not to argue about this but as you have asked me a question in my profession capacity I will respectfully answer.

Personally no I haven't worked with anyone with myocarditis, the date from my country suggests that 30 in 1 million people will have such a side effect. People who contract the virus with no vaccine are suffering myocarditis at a rate of 120 per million. Non of this is a secret, this is a rare side effect, I'm not an expert in why vaccines have side effects, there's a risk when we put things into our body, no one is debating this. For comparison sake myocarditis will effect around 8000 per million of MdMa users.

I haven't perceived an increase of abnormal strokes or heart attacks in the vaccinated population within 6 weeks or at all. Sadly this isn't the case for people who had the original strain of covid pre vaccinations who have a 1 in 1000 rate of suffering cardiovascular side effects. I have worked with people or all ages with such side effects.

This is all just my personal observations, I to would be interested what the data looks like on vaccine side effects, they may be helpful in developing future vaccines.

Is there data that vaccinated people won’t get myocarditis with a breakthrough case?
 
Maybe you need a third party to explain medical knowledge to you. But some of us here like to see the actual research. Should be simple to post. Yet you don't. Think it's because you have been corrected several times on the "studies" you have tried passing off here.

Lmao 😆😂 Ok, so you think you can interpret the data better than these medical professionals (phd, isnt he??) ok, SO GO TAKE A PEN, AND A NOTEBOOK, WATCH THE VIDEO, WRITE DOWN ALL THE SOURCES AND THEN READ THEM YOURSELF.

If you need to be explained that very simple process then I definitely dont think you should be reviewing anything 🙈

Or is it that you expect me to do that for you and post the links?? Get real!!
Notebook. Pen. Go.
 

Absolem

Active member
Lmao 😆😂 Ok, so you think you can interpret the data better than these medical professionals (phd, isnt he??) ok, SO GO TAKE A PEN, AND A NOTEBOOK, WATCH THE VIDEO, WRITE DOWN ALL THE SOURCES AND THEN READ THEM YOURSELF.

If you need to be explained that very simple process then I definitely dont think you should be reviewing anything 🙈

Or is it that you expect me to do that for ypu and pist the links here?? Get real!!
Notebook. Pen. Go.

Data speaks for itself. Medical data doesn't come from YouTube video's champ. People like you can't even tell the diff between a PhD and MD. The struggle is real for some. So why would I watch a third hand/rate video by someone like you?

You should learn how the "Scientific Method" works. Your video's don't meet the standard. It's that simple. Who the hell has the time to write everything down from a video to then look it up later. That's what makes paper so nice. Read then copy and look up as needed. it' why scientific community prefers paper to video.
 
Data speaks for itself. Medical data doesn't come from YouTube video's champ. People like you can't even tell the diff between a PhD and MD. The struggle is real for some. So why would I watch a third hand/rate video by someone like you?

You should learn how the "Scientific Method" works. Your video's don't meet the standard. It's that simple.

Its not my video, its a medical professionals. He's a phd. Can you not understand,.. Lool 😆😂🙈 Youve been told where to get the data to review yourself. Talk about clutching at straws now. Are you gonna put your fingers in your ears next, and say"lalalalala"😆😂
You know what, you're right, I was wrong. You should get your jabs man. (Please!!😅🙏) When is your next booster? Please be sure to get it 😊👍
 

Absolem

Active member
Its not my video, its a medical professionals. He's a phd. Can you not understand,.. Lool 😆😂🙈 Youve been told where to get the data to review yourself. Talk about clutching at straws now. Are you gonna put your fingers in your ears next, and say"lalalalala"😆😂
You know what, you're right, I was wrong. You should get your jabs man. (Please!!😅🙏) When is your next booster? Please be sure to get it 😊👍

The Karen's of the world salute your posts.
 
The Karen's of the world salute your posts.
(Karens are always jabbed. You're the Karen🙈)
What are your medical qualifications please? I'm just interested, you must have good credentials seeing as you think you can interpret the data better than Dr John Campbell (phd). What are your qualifications?
Thanks
 

Absolem

Active member
(Karens are always jabbed. You're the Karen🙈)
What are your medical qualifications please? I'm just interested, you must have good credentials seeing as you think you can interpret the data better than Dr John Campbell (phd). What are your qualifications?
Thanks

Keep clinging to your 3 videos that agree with you and continue to disregarded the people who actually have medical degrees. Finding people with MD's might be a good starting point for you.
 
Keep clinging to your 3 videos that agree with you and continue to disregarded the people who actually have medical degrees. Finding people with MD's might be a good starting point for you.

So do you have an MD? You still havent answered the question
What are you're qualifications please?
 

buzzmobile

Well-known member
Veteran
qualifications.jpg
 

Hammerhead

Disabled Farmer
ICMag Donor
Veteran
You guys trying to convince them that their GOV isn't trying to poison them using a vaccine ain't gonna happen. It makes more sense to them that it's true. You will have more luck getting a noodle to stick to a wall :D
 

bushed

Active member
Is there data that vaccinated people won’t get myocarditis with a breakthrough case?

I don't know, my point is that 30 in 1000000 is statistically safe, if it wasn't I would be buying alot more lottery tickets.

Budz Lightyear this will be my last reply as I have ended up doing the exact opposite of what my post intended. I watched the first YouTube video you linked to. Its full of confirmation bias and confusing correlation with causation, even from my lay person perspective it is clear that the subject is completely over the head of the speaker at best and completely non sensical at times.

The video about the vaccine changing DNA in the liver demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of the subject. Despite being based on good science. A change in molecules bind and protein structure doesn't equate to changed DNA. To put it into simple terms the effects on dna in the liver caused by the vaccine is less damaging and similar to eating 1 bacon sandwich. Is that the impression the video gives?

The vaccine doesn't need to be and isn't 100% safe. It needs to be safer than getting the virus, it is, it has saved countless life's. I'm happy to role the dice to protect the vulnerable and people like yourself who aren't. That's the compassion I was talking about.

I don't put to much stock in titles myself, I've met many clueless doctors who can't see past there own arrogance. Same with PhD, that are almost always out of field. I have a PhD that concerns neurology, I don't comment past the basics on epidemiology, my title (which I don't use) doesn't equate knowledge or intelligence.

In your original reply to me you used a crying from laughter 😅 about the idea that people like myself had been duped into something you consider harmful. Is that who you are? Someone who takes pleasure and amusement from your perceived misfortune of others. Have you always been that person?
 

Volcanna

Active member
Veteran
You were supposed to say mainly cases with severe covid get myocarditis. The vaccine limits severe symptoms thus lowering your chance. So a healthy person who has 0% chance of severe symptoms is more at risk from the jab than the virus?
 
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