Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

[Budz Lightyear]

Volcanna

This article speaks to you.

https://factcheck.afp.com/http%3A%2F%2Fdoc.afp.com%2F9UC4LE
Online articles shared on social media claim a document released by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) revealed more than 1,200 deaths related to Pfizer-BioNTech's Covid-19 vaccine in a 90-day period. But the pharmaceutical giant says the document does not indicate the fatalities are linked to vaccination, and it concludes the shots are safe -- a finding supported by US health authorities as well as clinical research.


"Pfizer Documents Reveal Over 1,200 Vaccine Deaths Over 90-Day Trial Period," says the headline of a December 2, 2021 article on the National File website.

Screenshot of an article taken on December 14, 2021

A separate article claims the Pfizer data showed a "shocking risk level" for the vaccine, while another says it raised "serious concerns" over the shots.

They are part of a pattern of inaccurate claims -- which AFP Fact Check has repeatedly debunked -- that seek to raise fears about Covid-19 shots via reports of deaths and other adverse effects following vaccination, even though no causal link was established between the problems and the jabs.

The document cited in the articles contains nothing to indicate the vaccine was linked to deaths. The figure of 1,223 fatalities among 158,893 adverse effects reflect "spontaneous" reports from sources that include health officials in several countries, without any verification of the cause, among the millions of vaccinated people worldwide during that period, Pfizer spokeswoman Dervila Keane told AFP.

Lmao. the last sentence litterally tells all - "...Pfizer spokeswoman Dervila Keane told AFP."

You're "fact check" was made by asking a Pfizer spokesperson for the conclusion. How stupid do you have to be to site this as a fact check..

 

[Absolem]

Lmao. the last sentence litterally tells all - "...Pfizer spokeswoman Dervila Keane told AFP."

You're "fact check" was made by asking a Pfizer spokesperson for the conclusion. How stupid do you have to be to site this as a fact check..

The original claim by Volcanna was that the report came from Pfizer. So having a spokesperson from Pfizer commenting on the the claim put forth would only be appropriate. Sad to see you fall for so many false video claims. Video's are easy to make. Any moron can put one out. Takes people with skill to submit a research paper for peer review and pass. Then again I'm talking to a person that can't tell the difference between a PhD and a MD.

 

[Chi13]

Some stats on vaccine safety from Australian govt. TGA stands for Therapeutic Goods Association. Hardly any deaths (11) and 8 of those were from Astrzeneca, before the Govt advised not to give that vaccine to under 60s.

The TGA closely reviews all adverse events after COVID-19 vaccination where a fatal outcome is reported. Read more about this process in a previous report. Since the beginning of the vaccine rollout to 16 January 2022, about 46.1 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been given. The TGA has identified 11 reports of death that were linked to vaccination from 751 reports received and reviewed. The deaths linked to vaccination occurred after the first dose of Vaxzevria (AstraZeneca) - 8 were thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) cases, 2 were linked to Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS) and one was a case of immune thrombocytopenia (ITP).
https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-20-01-2022

 

[Budz Lightyear]

The original claim by Volcanna was that the report came from Pfizer. So having a spokesperson from Pfizer commenting on the the claim put forth would only be appropriate. Sad to see you fall for so many false video claims. Video's are easy to make. Any moron can put one out. Takes people with skill to submit a research paper for peer review and pass. Then again I'm talking to a person that can't tell the difference between a PhD and a MD.

Lamo. You cant tell the difference between a fact check and a press release
PhD's, MD's, and many other medical professionals with differing qualifications have studied the reports and independently of each other come to the same concerns.
What are your medical qualifications again, can you remind us? Is it PhD, MD or something else?

(Btw I'm still laughing that you think a press release is a fact check
Absolem: "Hey Hitler, have you been killing Jews?"
Hitler: "No, we haven't. They just died"
Absolem: "It has been fact checked that Hitler did not kill Jews..."..
......

I guess you have to cling on to hope though, seeing as its already too late for you and you've been jabbed When are you getting your next booster??)

 

[unclefishstick]

Lmao. the last sentence litterally tells all - "...Pfizer spokeswoman Dervila Keane told AFP."

You're "fact check" was made by asking a Pfizer spokesperson for the conclusion. How stupid do you have to be to site this as a fact check..

ummmm,did you actually bother to read the article? nevermind...i keep forgetting engaging just isn't worth the effort

 

[Budz Lightyear]

News just In: McDonalds have the best burgers.
(Fact checked ✔ This has been fact checked. AFP asked Ronald McDonald and he said so.)

 

[flylowgethigh]

Fizer? LOL!!! Cancelled. Or midnight relocation?

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/78003/000087666122000258/xslF25X02/primary_doc.xml

https://gnews.org/2133590/

 

[bushed]

I've got a story, my neighbour is an anti vaxer he has fully fallen for the narrative, despite being a relaxed chill, genuinely nice guy, when you dig deep into his belief he starts spouting the same right wing conspiracy crap you read on here. He doesn't get out much but knows people in our local rural community as he has lived here all his life.

He personally knows 3 people who have had side effects from the vaccine, one extreme.

I work in health, my partner does to, mental and physical health check ups are part of both our jobs, between us we have come into contact with 1000's of people across all demographics since the vaccine role out. Have yet to meet anyone with any side effects past feeling tired for a couple of days. Met a few people who already have depression and chronic fatigue attribute there lack of motivation to the vaccine, I think this says it all really.

Stop arguing here, and hope that this thread will die if people stop giving it attention. Its clear that the people posting there links here are already entrenched in there mindset, arguing just lead to doubling down. People on the fringe need compassion not judgement. I've been guilty of arguing with conspiracy theorists on here myself its utterly pointless.

 

[Budz Lightyear]

, between us we have come into contact with 1000's of people across all demographics since the vaccine role out. Have yet to meet anyone with any side effects past feeling tired for a couple of days..

Yet I bet you've seen people coming in with myocarditis yet its "not vaccine related". Right?? Also tons of random heart attacks and strokes, (within 6 weeks of a vaccine or booster) yet they're "not vaccine related".. Right??

Riiiiiight...
We'll easily be able to tell in 12 more months just by looking at overall death rates of 18-64 y/o from all causes, compared to pre pandemic numbers.

 

[Budz Lightyear]

I've got a story, my neighbour is an anti vaxer he has fully fallen for the narrative, despite being a relaxed chill, genuinely nice guy, when you dig deep into his belief he starts spouting the same right wing conspiracy crap you read on here. He doesn't get out much but knows people in our local rural community as he has lived here all his life.

He personally knows 3 people who have had side effects from the vaccine, one extreme.
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Your neighbour sounds like a wise man, its you who has fallen for a narrative, he is paying attention to his own eyes and the people he knows personally, as you just said.
Time has done nothing but prove us right to be hesitant and wait- We're all still here, healthy, not dead from a pandemic and we dont have a chance of developing complications from the stuff going round our blood!! Your neighbour has been vindicated in his beliefs.
I dont think its Us that needs help or compassion, lol, we're good, its you guys who have been dupped
But imagine if we hadlistend to you people - we'd be in the same boat as you now with that stuff in our bodies, and for no reason
So even if we did need help, it wouldnt be from you guys, lol I'd say leave your old neighbour alone, he'll probably outlive you guys if you dont try and "help" him


(Thank the lord that we waited).

 

[Chi13]

Time has done nothing but prove us right to be hesitant and wait- We're all still here, healthy, not dead from a pandemic and we dont have a chance of developing complications from the stuff going round our blood!! Your neighbour has been vindicated in his beliefs.
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Apart from the 6 million dead.
Apart from the huge percentage with other complications form covid such as long covid, stroke, brain damage, e.t.c.

 

[Budz Lightyear]

Apart from the 6 million dead.
Apart from the huge percentage with other complications form covid such as long covid, stroke, brain damage, e.t.c.

Lmao ☝

I'll reapet it again. We're all still here, all still healthy, no complications and no chance of getting any. Thats definitive. Not speculation. We'll blaze one up for you at the 2030 rememberance

 

[mexcurandero420]

I've got a story, my neighbour is an anti vaxer he has fully fallen for the narrative, despite being a relaxed chill, genuinely nice guy, when you dig deep into his belief he starts spouting the same right wing conspiracy crap you read on here. He doesn't get out much but knows people in our local rural community as he has lived here all his life.

He personally knows 3 people who have had side effects from the vaccine, one extreme.

I work in health, my partner does to, mental and physical health check ups are part of both our jobs, between us we have come into contact with 1000's of people across all demographics since the vaccine role out. Have yet to meet anyone with any side effects past feeling tired for a couple of days. Met a few people who already have depression and chronic fatigue attribute there lack of motivation to the vaccine, I think this says it all really.

Stop arguing here, and hope that this thread will die if people stop giving it attention. Its clear that the people posting there links here are already entrenched in there mindset, arguing just lead to doubling down. People on the fringe need compassion not judgement. I've been guilty of arguing with conspiracy theorists on here myself its utterly pointless.

Thats funny, you have contact with1000s of people and nobody mentioned any side effects and I go to two different stores and I hear people talking about side effects of these jabs.I even talked to one who is working in a local pharmacy and told me she didn't take the booster shot, because she had side effects from the last one.

 

[bushed]

Yet I bet you've seen people coming in with myocarditis yet its "not vaccine related". Right?? Also tons of random heart attacks and strokes, (within 6 weeks of a vaccine or booster) yet they're "not vaccine related".. Right??

Riiiiiight...
We'll easily be able to tell in 12 more months just by looking at overall death rates of 18-64 y/o from all causes, compared to pre pandemic numbers.

The point of my post was that its better not to argue about this but as you have asked me a question in my profession capacity I will respectfully answer.

Personally no I haven't worked with anyone with myocarditis, the date from my country suggests that 30 in 1 million people will have such a side effect. People who contract the virus with no vaccine are suffering myocarditis at a rate of 120 per million. Non of this is a secret, this is a rare side effect, I'm not an expert in why vaccines have side effects, there's a risk when we put things into our body, no one is debating this. For comparison sake myocarditis will effect around 8000 per million of MdMa users.

I haven't perceived an increase of abnormal strokes or heart attacks in the vaccinated population within 6 weeks or at all. Sadly this isn't the case for people who had the original strain of covid pre vaccinations who have a 1 in 1000 rate of suffering cardiovascular side effects. I have worked with people or all ages with such side effects.

This is all just my personal observations, I to would be interested what the data looks like on vaccine side effects, they may be helpful in developing future vaccines.

 

[bushed]

Thats funny, you have contact with1000s of people and nobody mentioned any side effects and I go to two different stores and I hear people talking about side effects of these jabs.I even talked to one who is working in a local pharmacy and told me she didn't take the booster shot, because she had side effects from the last one.

Thank you, I don't think you could have proofed my point any clearer.

 

[Budz Lightyear]

, I to would be interested what the data looks like on vaccine side effects, they may be helpful in developing future vaccines.

Excellent. You can start with these - a fellow medical professional independently looking at the data. The sources are always cited for you to follow up on.

https://youtu.be/Hb1Xm1uaedU

https://youtu.be/7YOD9drZasM

https://youtu.be/THv33zWykJc


(Get back to us once you've gone through all the info?)

 

[Budz Lightyear]

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Also could you give us your professional opinion on the Swedish study that has been published showin that the vaccine alters DNA in the liver.

https://youtu.be/GC9qqpwCb7U

https://youtu.be/VQNOUYRykUI

​​​​​​​Thanks.

 

[entropical]

Apart from the 6 million dead.
Apart from the huge percentage with other complications form covid such as long covid, stroke, brain damage, e.t.c.

6 million dead is the one hoax that follows the other..

 

[h.h.]

Thats funny, you have contact with1000s of people and nobody mentioned any side effects and I go to two different stores and I hear people talking about side effects of these jabs.I even talked to one who is working in a local pharmacy and told me she didn't take the booster shot, because she had side effects from the last one.

It’s is funny. You’ve talked to two people giving opinions and you’re an expert.

 

[h.h.]

bushed
Also could you give us your professional opinion on the Swedish study that has been published showin that the vaccine alters DNA in the liver.

https://youtu.be/GC9qqpwCb7U

https://youtu.be/VQNOUYRykUI

Thanks.

Hope you’re right. You try so hard. More YouTube.