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Coronavirus.. outlook

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Mr D

How about some good news on covid19.......

According to Prof Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health, the country’s mortality rate is far higher due to demographics - the nation has the second oldest population worldwide - and the manner in which hospitals record deaths.
But Prof Ricciardi added that Italy’s death rate may also appear high because of how doctors record fatalities.

“The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.

On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity - many had two or three,” he says.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...se/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/



Hospitals have been rushing to stockpile a decades-old antimalarial drug touted by President Donald Trump and others as a treatment for the new coronavirus.

Hydroxychloroquine is being snapped up by medical systems at more than twice the typical pace as U.S. hospitals seek to build large inventories in anticipation of the medication’s potential use in patients with Covid-19, the respiratory illness caused by the coronavirus.

From March 1 through March 17, U.S. hospitals bought an average of 16,110 units of hydroxychloroquine, compared with an average 8,800 units a month from January 2019 through February 2020, according to Premier Inc., which helps 4,000 member hospitals buy and manage their supplies.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-malaria-drug-trump-says-could-treat-covid-19


The US has now completed tests on at least 179,220 people, up 44,035 from yesterday's total.


More and more studies are calling into question the idea that COVID-19 spreads asymptomatically. It appears to be a panic-induced myth. This means social distancing is not effective & the best way to stop the spread is simply to isolate symptomatic.



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Im'One

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How about some good news on covid19.......


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...se/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/





https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-malaria-drug-trump-says-could-treat-covid-19


The US has now completed tests on at least 179,220 people, up 44,035 from yesterday's total.


More and more studies are calling into question the idea that COVID-19 spreads asymptomatically. It appears to be a panic-induced myth. This means social distancing is not effective & the best way to stop the spread is simply to isolate symptomatic.



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I havent seen any such studies. Can you cite your sources?
 

Im'One

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Two of your articles contradict your opinion.


Science daily says
"They found that time between cases in a chain of transmission is less than a week and that more than 10 percent of patients are infected by somebody who has the virus but does not yet have symptoms. "


CDC was similar. Ten percent were spread by cases that were asymptomatic.
 
M

Mr D

My opinion was that these studies are calling in to question that COVID-19 spreads asymptomatically. Not that it's not happening.

It's a new virus and the data is incomplete so the 10% figure can go up or down once researchers have more data.

The number of flight attendants, airport staff, or pilots that have tested positive for COVID-19, out of the thousands of flights since November 2019, only a handful of airport and airline staff have tested positive. Outside of medical and hospital staff, these individuals are in greatest contact with infected persons in confined spaces.

“We still believe, looking at the data, that the force of infection here, the major driver, is people who are symptomatic, unwell, and transmitting to others along the human-to-human route,” Dr. Mike Ryan of WHO Emergencies Program.
 

Im'One

Active member
If its good enough for the NBA and pur Senators its good enough for me. I am self quarantined. My daughter cannot as she is an entrepreneur, (with no health insurance) granddaughter is confined to barracks at Lacland.

I have a scratchy throat and dry cough right now. Our thermometer needs a battery we cant seem to find. Since my wife has a bad heart and is on alleve for her back, im sleeping in the guest bedroom.

Just to be on the safe side.
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
March 22, 2020 at 12:24 AM EDT
At least 21 inmates, 17 employees infected in New York City jails, corrections watchdog says

The Department of Corrections confirmed the 12 infections among its employees but gave a slightly lower number, 19, for the total number of people in custody who have tested positive. The department didn’t immediately respond to a request to clarify the discrepancy.

“The health and well-being of our personnel and people in custody is our top priority,” the department said in a statement.
 

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
Veteran
Hydroxychloroquinine and chloroquine seems to give to much side effects according to some doctors here in Holland, who treated the patients with it.
 

knucklehead bob

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Swamp Thang

Well-known member
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Hydroxychloroquinine and chloroquine seems to give to much side effects according to some doctors here in Holland, who treated the patients with it.


A small minority of people break out in a rash if dosed with Chloroquine, and they are advised not to use it for that reason.

For the vast majority of people however, Chloroquine only induces a mild wooziness that would make driving a car unwise.

I am very familiar with the effects of Chloroquine because I have taken it on numerous occasions to cure malaria, a disease that is endemic in the tropics.
 

SamsonsRiddle

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isn't it kind of weird how many celebrities have this virus compared to how much of the population they represent?



for example, the nba only has 450 players yet they have 5 players who have tested positive.









One thing i don't know if anyone has read this:



Defense Production Act of 1950

The Act contains three major sections. The first authorizes the President to require businesses to sign contracts or fulfill orders deemed necessary for national defense. It also allows the president to designate materials to be prohibited from hoarding or price-gouging.[3] The second section authorizes the President to establish mechanisms (such as regulations, orders or agencies) to allocate materials, services and facilities to promote national defense. The third section authorizes the President to control the civilian economy so that scarce and/or critical materials necessary to the national defense effort are available for defense needs.[4][5]
The Act also authorizes the President to requisition property, force industry to expand production and the supply of basic resources, impose wage and price controls, settle labor disputes, control consumer and real estate credit, establish contractual priorities, and allocate raw materials towards national defense.[4]
The President's authority to place contracts under the DPA is the part of the Act most often used by the Department of Defense (DOD) since the 1970s. Most of the other functions of the Act are administered by the Office of Strategic Industries and Economic Security (SIES) in the Bureau of Industry and Security in the Department of Commerce.[6]
The Defense Priorities and Allocations System institutes a rating system for contracts and purchase orders.[7] The highest priority is DX, which must be approved by the Secretary of Defense. The next level down is DO, and below that are unrated contracts.



21st-century usage



In 2011, under President Barack Obama, the law was invoked to force telecommunications companies, under criminal penalties, to provide detailed information to the Commerce Department's Bureau of Industry and Security on the use of foreign-manufactured hardware and software in the companies' networks, as part of efforts to combat Chinese cyberespionage.[10]
In June 2017, President Donald Trump asked to adequately provide critical technology in the space industrial base in a timely manner pursuant to Section 4533(a)(5) of the act.[12][13][14][15]
On March 18, 2020, Trump invoked the Defense Production Act in response to the COVID-19 outbreak.[16][17] Although Trump invoked the DPA, he indicated that he would not actually make immediate use of DPA authority, writing, "Hopefully there will be no need," and indicating that he would do so in a "worst-case scenario."[18][19] Trump's reluctance to use the act's authorities prompted criticism; Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi called upon Trump to "immediately use the powers of the Defense Production Act to mass produce and coordinate distribution of" critically needed hospital equipment such as ventilators, swabs, and personal protective equipment (e.g., masks, gowns, and gloves).[18][19]
 

knucklehead bob

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Financial Expert: Central Banks Fostering Global Collapse By Design

Who stands to benefit from this crisis? Is there more to the official story than we are being told?

Find out why both Mannarino and Spiro believe this crisis is being fostered to trigger the largest financial collapse the world has ever seen.

https://www.activistpost.com/2020/03/financial-expert-central-banks-fostering-global-collapse-by-design.html?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2WiNxj0IHcx_OBX9gOTmx9ZmKcWol1NOZfr0NL8zAzBMElWJpcDTLbwYQ#Echobox=1584850274

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St. Phatty

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Also, has anyone read about how they are using Nitric Oxide (Laughing Gas)?

I tried Nitric for the first time last May during a surgery where they removed part of my jaw bone. (I was awake, local anaesthetic.)

I didn't get any high from it but I was in a lot of pain.

No wonder they can't see it. Virus particle/ particle clump size ranges from
0.000024 inches (.001 inch divided by 40) to 1 mm (.040 inch).

But the 1 mm particle size is just a piece of mucus that will fall to the ground.

From Dr. John video @ 3:14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNQUHc8wbRc
 

djav59

Member
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dear Friends ,
The first shot has already been fired its a multiple assault against freedom globally.
The goal to crush the poor, the old, the minorities.

Just by looking around here in this idiot infested place where I was born and live(It didn't used to be that bad but now its unreal). Ive seen a steady decline in everything what the Gov is preparing for is not aid but civil unrest.
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djav59

Member
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dear Friends ,
The first shot has already been fired its a multiple assault against freedom globally.
The goal to crush the poor, the old, the minorities.

Just by looking around here in this idiot infested place where I was born and live(It didn't used to be that bad but now its unreal). Ive seen a steady decline in everything what the Gov is preparing for is not aid but civil unrest.
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Medfinder

Chemon 91
NHS staff feel like ‘cannon fodder’ over lack of coronavirus protection
Frontline staff in plea for PPE as some improvise by tying plastic aprons around their heads

Worldometer

COVID-19 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC
Last updated: March 22, 2020, 14:57 GMT
Case Graphs - Death Graphs - Countries - Death Rate - Incubation - Age - Symptoms - News
Coronavirus Cases:
318,649

Deaths:
13,676
Recovered:
96,006
ACTIVE CASES
208,967
Currently Infected Patients
198,825 (95%)
in Mild Condition

10,142 (5%)
 

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