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Coronavirus.. outlook

f-e

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Just 3 posts in 3 hours. Actually, same yesterday. But 12 the day before and 10 before that. A shift in peoples circumstances.

I have not had a goggle search result returned in hours. I'm using Bing alright though.


You must all be streaming 4K. Pack it in.
 

Medfinder

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Now that several threads on coronavirus have been started...

Corona virus is reshaping this world.

And yes streaming my 55in 4k smart tv that cost me 238.99...

Back to the subject...

NIH director: Up to 70K coronavirus cases could be confirmed in US by end of next week

As many as 70,000 Americans could be confirmed as infected with coronavirus by the end of next week, marking a “pretty dramatic” increase in the number of confirmed cases, the director of the National Institutes of Health, Dr. Francis Collins, told his employees in an agency-wide conference call on Friday.
 

ramse

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Hello!
How is it in Italy at the moment? Are you able to share your experience?

the situation in Italy is dramatic, it seems to be at war. there are cities where the mortuary chambers and cemeteries are full, there are rows of military vehicles that carry coffins to other regions... in many hospitals there are no more intensive care places... in cities like Bergamo, patients in respiratory crisis with 70% oxygen saturation (practically between life and death) are left at home, treated at home... in a nutshell, patients are selected based on the possibility of survival.

we have a very high mortality compared to the rest of the world, Italy 8.6%, Spain 4.6% (Madrid region 7.3%), France 3.4%. This is not because of the quality level of Italian healthcare (you have first places at European and world level) and not even for the number of beds in intensive care, but simply because the percentage of those infected is largely underestimated. The infected are probably at least double. Italy was the first nation in Europe to have coronavirus cases and not many swabs were made immediately to limit the infected immediately... in other countries, many diagnostic tests were made immediately when the numbers were still small, if the cases are 100 or 200 or even 1,000 it is possible to test all those who have come in contact with them in the last days. If they become thousands and thousands it is almost impossible.
Don't take government provisions lightly to stay home, and don't go out.. stay home, stay safe.
 

Medfinder

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Coronavirus Cases:
287,288

Deaths:
11,893
Recovered:
93,617
ACTIVE CASES
181,778
Currently Infected Patients
173,661 (96%)
in Mild Condition

8,117 (4%)
Serious or Critical

OUTLOOK.......

The Most Realistic Economic Forecast Is Awful
Predictions of a second-half rebound are based on dubious assumptions.


Epidemiologists estimate that we would achieve herd immunity if about 60% of the population, or a little more than 200 million people, become infected. Even if the number of cases grows by only 10% per day, which is much slower than what we’ve seen so far in Europe and in the U.S., the 15,000 cases would grow to 200 million before the end of June.
 

Medfinder

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UCLA Anderson Forecast downgrades outlook for nation and California as coronavirus takes toll
Two-quarter hit to GDP is expected, but uncertainty around COVID-19 means the effects may be worse


Pulling no punches, the UCLA Anderson Forecasts for the national, state and global economies take a hard look at the potential impacts of COVID-19.

“What makes COVID-19 different from the prior epidemics SARS (2002–03), MERS (2012), Ebola (1976– ) and especially H1N1 (the ‘swine flu’ of 2009–10, which killed 12,500 Americans alone) is that although maybe fatal, it is potentially far more contagious,” writes senior economist David Shulman. “It is the contagious nature of COVID-19 that triggered the economic shutdowns that have become so disruptive to the global economy. Remember, China is far more integrated into the global economy than it was during the SARS epidemic.”

The national forecast

In his essay titled “Coronavirus: Supply Shock and Demand Shock,” Shulman notes that the realization that COVID-19 might potentially wreak havoc on the global economy shocked the securities market in February. Whereas the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement, known as the USMCA, and the truce in the U.S.–China trade war had pointed the U.S. and the world toward moderate growth in 2020 and beyond, this public health emergency evolved into an economic emergency as the economies of China, Japan, South Korea and northern Italy began to shut down.

Nickelsburg’s essay considers the potentially negative effect of a worldwide epidemic of COVID19, focusing on the consumer sectors.

“The interruption of trade will impact transportation and warehousing, and retail and wholesale trade,” he writes. “The interruption of travel will impact international tourism.” In addition, Nickelsburg cautions, “There will also be an increased demand for health care services and personal care services, though estimating that is also problematic.”
 

Medfinder

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I have to keep switching to other news services to get BETTER updates than what I am hearing from the live White Briefing today.

Stay safe people.
 

St. Phatty

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He dressed down Peter Alexander on Friday.

I think he's insulted a few other reporters.

It will be fun watching the payback.

Trump HATES tough questions - and this is a situation where tough questions are very appropriate.


I don't think they had a Saturday press conference. I think they just replayed Friday's.
 

Medfinder

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Coronavirus updates: Over 80 million Americans under virtual lockdown as restrictions tighten.

WASHINGTON — Vice President Mike Pence said he and his wife, Karen Pence, would get tested for the coronavirus Saturday

Worldwide, there are now more than 275,000 confirmed cases of the coronavirus, according to Johns Hopkins University.


Johnson Orders British Pubs to Close, Ending a Maverick Stance in Virus Fight
The prime minister’s reluctant action effectively brought the United Kingdom in line with France and other continental European nations.

San Jose.P.D.. enforcement of Gov Newsome stay at home order..
 

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3 year old readyNess test revel problems with border enforcement...


According to the 2016 audit, the DHS Office of Inspector General (OIG) found that the agency’s eight divisions—among them Customs and Border Protection (CBP), Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the Coast Guard, and the Secret Service—might “not be fully prepared to continue mission essential functions during a pandemic event.”

More than 60,000 immigrants have gone through the program since it launched in January 2019. In a recent court filing, a Customs and Border Protection official said about 25,000 migrants are in the program.

The Executive Office for Immigration Review, or EOIR, which oversees the migrants' court hearings, announced Sunday that it was postponing all non-detained immigration hearings through April 10. It's unclear whether migrants waiting in Mexico classify as "detained," but their hearings went on as scheduled Monday.
 

St. Phatty

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I heard some talk about type A blood being more vulnerable to the virus?

I’m A- so not good news for me!

well there are things you can do to compensate for it.

One of the more interesting sciencey notes I watched the last week was about the Inoculum.

That could be the loop of wire you use to transfer a germ sample to a petri dish.

Or it could be a patient sneezing in the face of a nurse.

Or virus particles drifting like dust in the air at Walmart or Costco.

Since the virus increases (for the most part) exponentially (until it runs out of food etc.) it's WAAAY better to start out with a small inoculum, if you're going to be exposed.

10 virus particles landing on your lips while you are in the aisle at Walmart, is better than 500,000 virus particles from a sneeze.

Either way the viruses will commandeer human cells and start making more viruses.

But when the infection starts with 10, that's WAAAAY better than starting with 500,000. after the virus count has a chance to double and double again etc., that a patient started with a small dose becomes REALLY important. The human immune system has a much better chance dealing with a small initial dose.

And the size and timing of that initial dose is very dependent on behavior and timing. And social things like booze.

for example, Mardi Gras was Feb. 25 this year. A whole bunch of drunk people in New Orleans. That is as much a germ-spreading event as the Muslims licking the floor or their shrines.

Just by not going to Mardi Gras, you avoided a whole bunch of germs !
 

Medfinder

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Italy calls in military to enforce coronavirus lockdown as 627 people die in 24 hours

The government has now agreed that the military can be used to help enforce the lockdown, the president of the Lombardy region, Attilio Fontana, told a news conference on Friday.

"(The request to use the army) has been accepted... and 114 soldiers will be on the ground throughout Lombardy... it is still too little, but it is positive," Fontana said. "Unfortunately we are not seeing a change of trend in the numbers, which are rising."

The soldiers had until now been deployed in the region to ensure general security in the streets.
 

Medfinder

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Corona virus cost?

Askini was given a final test on the seventh day of her illness, and once doctors helped manage her flu and pneumonia symptoms, they again sent her home to recover. She waited another three days for a lab to process her test, and at last she had a diagnosis: COVID-19.


A few days later, Askini got the bills for her testing and treatment: $34,927.43. “I was pretty sticker-shocked,” she says. “I personally don’t know anybody who has that kind of money.”

Like 27 million other Americans, Askini was uninsured when she first entered the hospital. She and her husband had been planning to move to Washington, D.C. this month so she could take a new job, but she hadn’t started yet.
 

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