Coronavirus.. outlook

[St. Phatty]

IVERMECTIN against covid 19. Doctor pleads for review of data during covid 19 Senate hearings
IVERMECTIN AGAINST Covid 19 proof of effectiveness...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w&feature=emb_title

How can the General Public miss the Obvious ?

The US government is withholding known effective extremely low cost treatments.

The US gov. says there are NO nutritional supplements that are useful against Covid19.

It's like a Mathematical Proof that, in the US, is is all about the Benjamins.

They would rather see people die & book $100K+ per patient, than stop the pandemic COLD ... and lose all those revenues to vitamin manufacturers and farm supply stores.

 

[Frosty Nuggets]

https://www.bitchute.com/video/TlxWZHk5yhFM/?list=notifications&randomize=false

 

[aridbud]

Sounds like all who get this vaccine, would do well to isolate for another couple of weeks to ensure that they steer clear of infections until that vaccine's immune response kicks in.

Exactly, Swamp! Flu vaccine takes a while so that's the reason to get vaccinated in Oct/Nov to thwart the "flu season" Jan-April.

 

[flylowgethigh]

These vaccines were tested in several hundred volunteers, so the odds lean heavily in favor of there being no adverse side-effects.


Were I given the choice between taking the vaccine right away, or waiting a few months to see if there are any downsides to being injected, I'd take the vaccine right away, bearing in mind the near certainty of getting infected, if I delay.

A brave lady of 90 years old, was the first UK recipient of this vaccine upon its release to the general population, and her continued good health will ease the worries of many people who would otherwise remain cautious.

Amazing. Take mine also, cause I will not. Was that pic of the old woman a fake, recycled from a month earlier?

Put gates, oboma, foochie and you at a table with 4 doses on it, and all have to take one. The only way you could know if they weren't trying to kill you, would be to pick first, and watch the other 3 get their shots first.

 

[Swamp Thang]

Amazing. Take mine also, cause I will not.

Sure thing. I am always ready to be the human guinea-pig, but in reality it may well turn out to be a year or more before these vaccines ever make it out to the Third World backwater where I currently hole up.

 

[mowood3479]

It would be interesting to hear from any dying covid patients that are still capable of communicating, whether they would agree with your claim here, that the disease is "overblown".

ICU units are pretty much at full capacity nationwide, so I cannot fathom the basis for any claim that this pandemic is over-stated.

The instinct to hide one's head in the sand and default into denial mode, whenever grim realities become overwhelming, is evidently as powerful as the primal will to live, for so many people. Maybe this is purely a natural defense mechanism to retain sanity when cataclysmic events are in progress, but hey, I ain't no shrink.

ICU units typically run at near capacity in the fall. That’s how they were designed (to run near capacity during the busy season.)
(Also, there is plenty of rooms at the hospital.. typically icu is just one of many floors) but ur fear mongering is important so
do tell about this terrible plague with a case fatality rate of (checks notes) .017%.

 

[mexcurandero420]

8,793 new cases and 61 new deaths in the Netherlands today.

 

[armedoldhippy]

ICU units typically run at near capacity in the fall. That’s how they were designed (to run near capacity during the busy season.)
(Also, there is plenty of rooms at the hospital.. typically icu is just one of many floors) but ur fear mongering is important so
do tell about this terrible plague with a case fatality rate of (checks notes) .017%.

you are right, in a way. (barely & on a tangent) there ARE empty rooms, because elective surgeries have been widely halted to allow medical personnel to try to keep the sickest alive. (AND avoid needlessly exposing normal patients to the virus via Drs/nurses moving floor to floor) only the ICU rooms are suitable for this. you just keep right on denying the obvious, since it is all that you know how to do.

 

[mowood3479]

8,793 new cases and 61 new deaths in the Netherlands today.

how many of those deaths were people under 70 years old?
(Im not sure if ur aware of this but old people often die.)

To answer my own question... of the nearly 10,000 deaths attributed to covid in the Netherlands over 80% were people at least 70 years old
Over 50% were people over 80 years old

Statistics without context are garbage.

 

[mexcurandero420]

ICU units typically run at near capacity in the fall. That’s how they were designed (to run near capacity during the busy season.)
(Also, there is plenty of rooms at the hospital.. typically icu is just one of many floors) but ur fear mongering is important so
do tell about this terrible plague with a case fatality rate of (checks notes) .017%.

You forget several things.You'll need qualified personnel, most of these qualified personnel in the hospitals are overworked.This virus causes long term side-effects, especially for the people who caught it in March/April.
Not only old people are dying, also much younger people died to this virus.An ex-collegue from my sister was 46, had further no medical background.This virus is nastier than the common flu.

 

[mowood3479]

you are right, in a way. (barely & on a tangent) there ARE empty rooms, because elective surgeries have been widely halted to allow medical personnel to try to keep the sickest alive. (AND avoid needlessly exposing normal patients to the virus via Drs/nurses moving floor to floor) only the ICU rooms are suitable for this. you just keep right on denying the obvious, since it is all that you know how to do.

Oh the horror of setting up another floor of the hospital as ad hoc icu space.

It just can’t be done (why exactly idk?)
Instead we need to close everything and put everyone on house arrest ....

yA tHaTs a mUcH bEtTeR sOlUtIoN

We need to end lockdowns they’re a failed policy that isn’t backed up by the data

(Florida (fully open) has the same hospitalization rate per million population as California (fully locked down) (just one of many examples).

But do go on about following the science... or is it all a plea to emotion now? U don’t want to kill grandma do ya?

 

[Medfinder]

Coronavirus Cases:
69,462,751
view by country
Deaths:
1,579,766
Recovered:
48,193,744
ACTIVE CASES
19,689,241
Currently Infected Patients
19,582,373 (99.5%)
in Mild Condition

106,868 (0.5%)
Serious or Critical

Show Statistics
CLOSED CASES
49,773,510
Cases which had an outcome:
48,193,744 (97%)
Recovered / Discharged

1,579,766 (3%)
Deaths

 

[Medfinder]

Six people died in Pfizer’s late-stage trial of the COVID-19 vaccine, the US Food and Drug Administration has revealed just hours after Britain became the first country in the world to roll out the vaccine.


https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coronavirus/2020/12/09/pfizer-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccines/

 

[redlaser]

(Florida (fully open) has the same hospitalization rate per million population as California (fully locked down) (just one of many examples).

John Hopkins has Florida’s positivity rate at over 10%, double what Florida’s own stats are.

You trust Desantis over Johns Hopkins for medical information?

 

[Cuddles]

Six people died in Pfizer’s late-stage trial of the COVID-19 vaccine, the US Food and Drug Administration has revealed just hours after Britain became the first country in the world to roll out the vaccine.


https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coronavirus/2020/12/09/pfizer-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccines/

bit late innit? taking the piss?!?!

 

[mr.brunch]

It says 4 of the 6 were taking the placebo

 

[armedoldhippy]

Oh the horror of setting up another floor of the hospital as ad hoc icu space.

It just can’t be done (why exactly idk?)
Instead we need to close everything and put everyone on house arrest ....

yA tHaTs a mUcH bEtTeR sOlUtIoN

We need to end lockdowns they’re a failed policy that isn’t backed up by the data

(Florida (fully open) has the same hospitalization rate per million population as California (fully locked down) (just one of many examples).

But do go on about following the science... or is it all a plea to emotion now? U don’t want to kill grandma do ya?

there is an incredible array of equipment needed in an ICU ward that you cannot "just set up" temporarily. this is why it is engineered in when the hospital is fucking built, bozo. not to mention that the equipment is expensive as hell, and not all DRs and nurses are qualified to work in there.. i'm sorry that you are a moron, and hope you survive it without endangering anyone else but yourself. another clod on "ignore"...

 

[mexcurandero420]

Sanofi and GSK vaccine does not work well enough in the elderly, development delayed
Pharmacists Sanofi and GSK report that the effect of their joint corona vaccine is disappointing. Although their vaccine induces an immune response in 18 to 49 year olds that is comparable to that in people who have had a corona infection, the vaccine is less effective in the elderly.

People over 49 who have been given the vaccine do not produce enough antibodies, the phase 1 and 2 studies show . As a result, the development of the vaccine is delayed.

Protein
The vaccine from Sanofi and GSK works on the basis of so-called recombinant protein technology, in which a specific piece of protein from the virus must ensure that someone produces antibodies.

In mRNA vaccines, a person's body makes a spike protein on the basis of genetic material from the virus: the part of the coronavirus with which it attaches itself to human cells. The body then responds by producing antibodies against the spike protein. In a vector vaccine, genetic material from the coronavirus is packaged in a different, harmless cold virus and thus elicits an immune response.

Was in the news this morning.

 

[mowood3479]

there is an incredible array of equipment needed in an ICU ward that you cannot "just set up" temporarily. this is why it is engineered in when the hospital is fucking built, bozo. not to mention that the equipment is expensive as hell, and not all DRs and nurses are qualified to work in there.. i'm sorry that you are a moron, and hope you survive it without endangering anyone else but yourself. another clod on "ignore"...

@mods
Is this the decorum that I’m so lacking in that I get the ban hammer? (Cause I can take lessons from an armedoldhippy)
Also just wondering aoh... what’s wrong? Did I make some decent points and your only resort is ad hominem attacks.
Next time you find urself in that position..stop and think.. u can make a better point than it’s hard to set up icu equipment...
They’ve had 8 months.
They set up field hospitals with intensive care units on the battlefield all the time
We actually have an army division that specializes in it.
But do go on about how impossible it is to expand icu space and how it’s easier and better to put 350 million people on house arrest

 

[mexcurandero420]

8,894 new cases and 64 new deaths in the Netherlands today.